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  1. #121
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    For starters they could begin by not having their personalities being determined by thirst for Alliance blood. We can go from there.
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  2. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett View Post
    Pretty sure making mistakes is a prerequisite to being an Orc. You can trace nearly every problem in Warcraft back to an Orc
    LOL this is almost parody levels accurate

  3. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by Raisei View Post
    Both Velen and Tyralyon spend literal millenia on trying to exterminate the Burning Legion... Velen has shown himself to be quite unforgiving when dealing with his former people and Turalyon / Alleria are very very much Anti-Horde to begin with.



    From the Darkshore Trailer we can assume that Malfurion has very little problem murdering Hordes after what they did to his people. He had that one Orc dragged underground and presumably crushed or suffocated by roots, the Belf Paladin he killed so quick, she did not even see it coming. Jaina does not want to be that person, but if the Horde forces her hand again, it is very likely that she will wipe out Orgrimmar for real this time.
    Velen has already said he forgave the orcs what they did in draenor in war crimes and Tyralyon just wanted lock the ors in interment camps after the second war he easily hated them more then than he does now.

    Malfurion did the same thing bfa NE novels and was dping the same to saurfang then who is brother to broxigar whom Malfurion honors like shit and uncle to thura who saved his life so what he did in darkshore trailer doesn't prove anything. She forced hordes hands first on botgh of the occasion so she is hypocrite and even though she is strong we have seen in wn universe mass defeat a powerful individual and she is nowhere near even on velens level and even velen powers couldn't stop the first horde.

  4. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett View Post
    Wrong. Lordaeron is basically the top part of the Eastern Kingdoms - the actual city in Tirisfal Glades is called Lordaeron City/Capital City

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    And there are probably people who would be loyal to Garrosh if he were still alive - doesn't matter, the power is gone
    Then you should say the Kingdom of Lordaeron. And the civilian were still evacuated while the NE could not evacuate much.

  5. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by Raisei View Post
    Exactly the kind of thinking that makes me doubt that any change will happen in the Horde. It boils down to: "Orc stronk, Orc do what Orc want". There is not even any realization that the Horde has commited an atrocious warcrime (not even in the educated modern minds of the Horde playerbase), they WANT to be evil, they WANT to be on one level with the Legion or the Scourge, so the only real change that would last is destroying the Horde just as we destroyed the Legion and the Scourge.
    Anything less will just lead to the next warcrime. Maybe it is the Exodar burning this time because Sylvanas 2.0 feels that the Light is blinding her.
    Alliance made nearly every actions legitimate politically atrocities in war can be justified and modern horde had justification on every one of their actions like fourth war alliance tried to assasinate sylvanas for no reason in stormheim and killed hordes civilians in silithus as miners are civilians recardless of their race and what alliance players did there happened before explorer's league happened as we saw no trace of the league there in bfa prepatch as trying to kill a political leader of nation and a faction outside of war is a war crime which often leads to war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bennett View Post
    Pretty sure making mistakes is a prerequisite to being an Orc. You can trace nearly every problem in Warcraft back to an Orc
    Well not really you can trace them to draenai and velen arriving on draenor as they new legion was searching for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwielder View Post
    Trolls... where are they? Living in the middle of swamps and forests, doing fuck all? Just like ants, they have the numbers but they do anything except for causing mischief which is put down swiftly

    Except they were pushed out of their lands by others. Its not mischief, its trying to recover their ancient land
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maljinwo View Post
    Except they were pushed out of their lands by others. Its not mischief, its trying to recover their ancient land
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    How could I ever have loved someone so weak? Let us hope Arator did not inherit your cowardice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maljinwo View Post
    Except they were pushed out of their lands by others. Its not mischief, its trying to recover their ancient land
    *wet fart noise followed by a flying deflating balloon*

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    There is nothing they can do. Blizz wrote them as utterly unforgivable after this point. All it took was Sylvanas giving a couple of vague what ifs that go against everything he had seen with his own eyes to turn even Saurfang the literal only orc that realized how far they had fallen via manipulation and general dumbassery to forget all his life lessons. Saurfang being portrayed generally as the soul of the horde it doesn't speak much to confidence that they even -want- to make amends.

  10. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by Sharby View Post
    For starters they could begin by not having their personalities being determined by thirst for Alliance blood. We can go from there.
    not our fault that forsakens are addicted of human flesh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terongor View Post
    Danath trollbane yeah but honestly arathi is in ruins so he bears no real power, Akama isn't part of the alliance so his Oppinion doesn't matter and he is spirit is most likely broken again by DH's and Vereesa didn't really bear any hostility to horde even in her inner though in war crimes so not really.
    Trollbane is a monarch though, and Stromgarde is now restored and the Horde just lost there. He is as important as Katherine, Alleria, Turalyon, and the Dwarf leaders in terms of leadership given that he is literally their king now.

    Vereesa killed more Blood Elves than Jaina did and let's not forget she wanted Rommath dead in Legion
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  12. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by deenman View Post
    i feel like this is quoting something lol
    its probably a patchwork of multipe ones. The last 2 parts definetly sounded familiar in my head. Not sure where ive heard that be4. And greenskins is something that stuck in my head like a racist slurr towards orcs xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aphrel View Post
    its probably a patchwork of multipe ones. The last 2 parts definetly sounded familiar in my head. Not sure where ive heard that be4. And greenskins is something that stuck in my head like a racist slurr towards orcs xD
    closest I know is Danath calling Eitrigg the orcish n-word; I'm not sure of his opinions towards Forsaken though
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  14. #134
    There is nothing to amend for. The only problem is that we didn't finish the job and exterminate all of the Alliance. Garrosh was right. We should have listened to him when we had the chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardenaso View Post
    Trollbane is a monarch though, and Stromgarde is now restored and the Horde just lost there. He is as important as Katherine, Alleria, Turalyon, and the Dwarf leaders in terms of leadership given that he is literally their king now.

    Vereesa killed more Blood Elves than Jaina did and let's not forget she wanted Rommath dead in Legion
    Yeah monarch in name only though as population of stromgarde is minimal because of past years from vanilla till legion meaning its military power isn't high and monarch political powers is based on power of the kingdom and its next to nothing atm well Katherine isn't ruler anymore and KT military power far exceeds stromgardes, well void elves are only a handfull of elite troops same as lightborne and no novel places their leader on the same political power as ruler of an entire kingdom and kingdom of ironforge is morst likely political strongest member of the alliance after stormwind.

    Yeah she did and sylvanas killed countless orcs in second war and Vereesa killed them in purge of dalaran and war crimes happened and rommath is openly disliking high elves and thinks vereesa and all of them who sided with kirin tor when they imprisoned kael in tft are traitors as rommath was a Kael'thas loyalist until kael became tool of the legion so its more than likely that they hate each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathrange View Post
    There is nothing to amend for. The only problem is that we didn't finish the job and exterminate all of the Alliance. Garrosh was right. We should have listened to him when we had the chance.
    #garroshdidnothingwrong

  16. #136
    After 8.2.5 the Horde is currently more powerful then the Alliance. The rebels and Alliance didn't know if they could defeat the Loyalists/Sylvanas. Now that everyone is joined back together Horde are in a position of Power again. Why would they bother with amends? Everyone now knows Sylvanas was just trying to kill as many people as possible on both sides. Making both factions leadership look like fools. She isn't leading the Horde anymore.
    The Alliance control most of Lorderon now they also took back Darkshore. Its not like they lost the war, they gained alot of land and resources. Trying to force more out of the Horde is what gets you another war. Alliance players need to just be happy this dumb faction War garbage storyline is over.

    Though It would be nice to see ingame cooperation in some aspects. Like for example alliance allowing Forsaken back in to clean up the plague in Lordaeron(like they do for every single plagued area they bomb since Cata). Argent crusade setting up cleansing Towers ect... Also small changes like adding Elite kill squads in Ashenvale that will take down any Horde player that enters the zone. Class halls getting small updates where all the orderhalls coming together to provide support when the pre-patch launches and the Scourge attack ect...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terongor View Post
    Yeah she did and sylvanas killed countless orcs in second war and Vereesa killed them in purge of dalaran and war crimes happened and rommath is openly disliking high elves and thinks vereesa and all of them who sided with kirin tor when they imprisoned kael in tft are traitors as rommath was a Kael'thas loyalist until kael became tool of the legion so its more than likely that they hate each other.
    Vereesa and her High Elves openly dislike Blood Elves not the other way around. Rommath doesn't hate High Elves, he lamented that they had to kill their High Elf brethren in the Purge of Dalaran. Just because he said "I never tire slaying Alliance" doesn't mean he hates High Elves too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felrane View Post
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    As of 8.3 Lordaeron still belongs to the Forsaken - Andorhal, Deathknell, Bulwark, Durnholde, Tarren Mill, Sepulchre, etc.

    I've always wanted to see Stratholme and Tyr's Hand become neutral hubs for Paladins and Priests like Dalaran. Maybe Argent Dawn Lordaeronians could make themselves their own "kingdom" owning Stratholme, Tyr's Hand, Corrin's Crossing, Blackwood, etc. as a neutral faction like the Kirin Tor and make Maxwell their Regent Lord (and then make Calia/Turalyon and Lillian the Silver Covenant and Sunreavers of Eastweald).
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  18. #138
    Mana Bomb the Alliance and wipe them from existence. Or for a more for feels option exile the Forsaken from the Horde allowing them to break off into their own 3rd faction to make the game slightly entertaining again.

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    For starters they can disown Alliance characters like Baine and Calia. Once that is complete they can finish their conquest of Kalimdor and finish off the night elves and draenei, who are long past their expiration dates. The fact that these elder races have lived for thousands of years and have only brought ruin to themselves is a strong indicator that they should have already perished.

    With the external problems gone and Kalimdor under Horde control, it's time to clean house. Undead have no place in the world, period, so they should be dropped now while they're homeless. Should be easy to mop up the remainders, especially without Sylvanas around to raise more. Blood elves can be dropped, too. Leave them to fend for themselves in the EK. If they're smart they'll hole up in their forest and mind their own business.

    This would make amends for me at least. Simply purge all the undesirables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terongor View Post
    #garroshdidnothingwrong
    Damn right!

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