What can the Horde do to make amends?

[Toho]

Currently, we are at an armistice and by all accounts from interviews the conflict isn't over its paused.

Alliance and Horde have switched roles.
One going to tyrannical regime to a council of nations.
The other going from a council of nations to a tyrannical regime.

The Night Elves are significantly reduced in number. And Homeless.
Forsaken still homeless.

Horde has new leadership but many of the old faces that were around during Garrosh and Sylvanas persist.

Alliance once again has gotten the brunt of the atrocities while the Horde remains relatively untouched besides a few soldiers and characters.

Where do we go from here?
What can the Horde do that will make anything better? Is it even on the Horde to do anything at all?
Even if they do... will it be enough? Did the Horde go too far and this is prelude to yet another faction war?

[deenman]

if this was realistic or good writing,the aliance would disband the horde kill all fosaken and orcs,and isolate the rest,rome used to do that to really bad agresors,anihilate them all when it was clear they couldnt play nice

[Skildar]

The horde has been given a free pass, why the hell should they concern themselves with making amends? oO'

[Lolites]

if this was realistic or good writing,the aliance would disband the horde kill all fosaken and orcs,and isolate the rest,rome used to do that to really bad agresors,anihilate them all when it was clear they couldnt play nice

Rome had the power to do so and competent leadership, alliance have neither

[Tarba]

It's a time of peace, so the horde should be on hight alert for a sneak attack from the alliance.

[deenman]

Rome had the power to do so and competent leadership, alliance have neither

they have all the power they need,no other faction even comes close to alliance might,and they have lore wise some of the best leadership,elves are ancient and so is velen,its the writers that cant use them in a realistic way

[Lolites]

they have all the power they need,no other faction even comes close to alliance might,and they have lore wise some of the best leadership,elves are ancient and so is velen,its the writers that cant use them in a realistic way

1. alliance + horde rebels would have trouble to defeate loyalist (said so themselves ingame), so unless the rebels would just lay down and die wilingly instead of helping their brothers, alliance DOESNT have the power to kill horde, and even with rebels out of equation it would be problematic...
2. velen is not military leader, elves and human are at each other thorats, Genn wasnt able to defeat sylvanas even when he had upper hand and element of surprise in his hand in stormheim, only competent military leader is Tyrande, but she doesnt lead any huge force since nelfs are few...

so to sum up, if rebels simply left, or actualy helped alliance to slaughter their own kin, and alliance would put Tyrande in military leadership instead of little girl Anduin, MAYBE alliance could after long and bloody war defeat horde, but the cost would be so high it would be pyrhic vicotry and would lead to end of alliance too

[deenman]

1. alliance + horde rebels would have trouble to defeate loyalist (said so themselves ingame), so unless the rebels would just lay down and die wilingly instead of helping their brothers, alliance DOESNT have the power to kill horde, and even with rebels out of equation it would be problematic...
2. velen is not military leader, elves and human are at each other thorats, Genn wasnt able to defeat sylvanas even when he had upper hand and element of surprise in his hand in stormheim, only competent military leader is Tyrande, but she doesnt lead any huge force since nelfs are few...

so to sum up, if rebels simply left, or actualy helped alliance to slaughter their own kin, and alliance would put Tyrande in military leadership instead of little girl Anduin, MAYBE alliance could after long and bloody war defeat horde, but the cost would be so high it would be pyrhic vicotry and would lead to end of alliance too

the rebels were tiny,and made no sense why anduin couldnt bring everything against loyalist,also aliance has some of the strongest faction leaders,velen,aleria and turalyon,malfurion and tyrande,the gnome leader one of the smartest living beings if not the smarterst on azeroth,kul tiran fleet,jaina is op by comparison horde has what?some tauren and their leader with no noteworthy abilities,thrall has lost most his power,zandalari are in ruin and talanji is barely even part of the horde anymore

[Lolites]

talanji is barely even part of the horde anymore

well if you want to MAKE UP arguments theres no point arguing...

last time alliance was powerfull enough to dismantle horde was during frist war, and that was gnomes+dwarfs+high elves+7 human kingdoms against orcs and trolls... since then the power of alliance/horde was pretty much balanced, as it was shown ingame multiple times, thinking anything else is just pulling baseless claims out of your ass...

[Varodoc]

Sadly there are no Dragon Balls that can undo the genocide of the kaldorei, so I'm afraid they cant do much.

[Chonar]

Explain to me how the Alliance is going to a "tyrannical" regime.

'Cuz I'm personally hoping for a Tyrandical regime.

[FuxieDK]

Alliance and Horde have switched roles.
One going to tyrannical regime to a council of nations.
The other going from a council of nations to a tyrannical regime.

Which is which? I cannot apply any of the two statements to either faction.

I could, however, see
- Alliance stays the tyrannical regime it have always been.
- Horde stays a council of nations, it have always been.

[Aeula]

They could start by burning Vol’dun, genociding the Vulpera and proclaiming Gallywix Warchief. Then I’d consider their crimes of rebelling against their rightful Warchief repaid.

[Varodoc]

They could start by burning Vol’dun, genociding the Vulpera and proclaiming Gallywix Warchief. Then I’d consider their crimes of rebelling against their rightful Warchief repaid.

Will you go after Sylvanas next? I think she was the greatest traitor to Garrosh after Vol'jin (who is already dead).

[Darkeon]

The Horde should preemptively strike against the Alliance, in case they re-think their re-thinking about this peace.

We deserve a BFA 2.0 after WoD 2.0. The circle of Hatred must be circled.

[Hyeonh]

For starters get a Warchief that lasts longer than 1-2 expansions the position gets swapped around like trading cards. I'm 100% sure that I'm not the only one tired of the fact we swap Warchiefs so damn often.

[Vakna]

There is literally nothing they can do to make amends. You can't undo the slaughter of so many innocents, regardless of who was in charge. The "just following orders" argument has no merit, if they follow such orders they are just as fucked up as the one giving them.

[Daronokk]

Alliance once again has gotten the brunt of the atrocities while the Horde remains relatively untouched besides a few soldiers and characters.

I think you got that backwards. The Alliance still has most of their heroes alive, even from Warcraft 1 and 2.
Meanwhile the Horde burns through all their named characters each new game and new expansion and now just has a bunch of nobodies as leaders.

The only thing the Alliance loses is random nobodies that aren't even seen in-game. An imaginary population of citizens.

There is no fixing things now, it's f*cked up too far already. There is nobody to turn the Horde into a proper faction anymore and the Alliance never loses their leaders so they have way too many to include in a proper story, that's why they always turn Alliance heroes neutral or let them sitting on hold for a few expansions.

Edit: Small edit, the only real option is to return some Horde heroes back. But I don't see it happening, Blizzard didn't even use this option in Warlords of Draenor so why do it in Shadowlands?

[Raisei]

Currently, we are at an armistice and by all accounts from interviews the conflict isn't over its paused.

Alliance and Horde have switched roles.
One going to tyrannical regime to a council of nations.
The other going from a council of nations to a tyrannical regime.

What? o.O

I mean yes the Horde is changing but the Alliance is the same. The High Kings role as leader of the Alliance is not even remotely tyrannical, especially with Anduin in it. The best evidence for that is how Tyrande could tell him to piss off when he wanted her to sign the peace treaty. A tyrannical ruler of the Alliance that sees himself in power would have had her head for that. The Alliance is not a democracy but the members are still mostly sovereigns, Anduin only controls the military and even that not 100%.

The Night Elves are significantly reduced in number. And Homeless.
Forsaken still homeless.

Horde has new leadership but many of the old faces that were around during Garrosh and Sylvanas persist.

Alliance once again has gotten the brunt of the atrocities while the Horde remains relatively untouched besides a few soldiers and characters.

Where do we go from here?
What can the Horde do that will make anything better? Is it even on the Horde to do anything at all?
Even if they do... will it be enough? Did the Horde go too far and this is prelude to yet another faction war?

I guess a start would be that the Horde cleanses itself of all that supported Sylvanas in her genocidal campaign against hope and life, which is in big parts the Forsaken (the Royal Apothecaries should all without exception be executed, or should have been for years), instead of just forgetting about all the monstrous acts they willingly carried out in her name. I mean there are still spies and traitors in Orgrimmar at this moment. All it took is for them to renounce her officially and they are free of all guilt.

It is very hard to accept that the Horde is changing when they just ignores all the evil shit they did and do not even attempt to seek forgiveness for the genocide of the Nightelves. It is not even clear if the other members besides Baine and Thrall realize how evil the shit is that they did, they certainly did not let the memory of Theramore only a few years ago stop them from going for Teldrassil.
So can we really assume that the memory of the genocide at Teldrassil stop them from commiting the next? I have my doubts. When the next maniac desolves the council and shouts "For the Horde!" loud enough they will grab their axes and murder the next city full of civilians.

Which is pretty much what Tyrande said. Anduin wants to believe this is not true, but the Horde has to show now that they can actually learn and evolve. For now we have only seen signs of them being either unwilling or unable to be anything more then a berserking war machine that slaughters people for fun.

[Terongor]

Currently, we are at an armistice and by all accounts from interviews the conflict isn't over its paused.

Alliance and Horde have switched roles.
One going to tyrannical regime to a council of nations.
The other going from a council of nations to a tyrannical regime.

The Night Elves are significantly reduced in number. And Homeless.
Forsaken still homeless.

Horde has new leadership but many of the old faces that were around during Garrosh and Sylvanas persist.

Alliance once again has gotten the brunt of the atrocities while the Horde remains relatively untouched besides a few soldiers and characters.

Where do we go from here?
What can the Horde do that will make anything better? Is it even on the Horde to do anything at all?
Even if they do... will it be enough? Did the Horde go too far and this is prelude to yet another faction war?

So as alleria said sylvanases horde is the only faction with power to fight against n'zoth meaning alliance+horde rebels wer eweaker and now that sylvanases faction follows what were the horde rebels(mostly) do you really think alliance could demand anything from them?

war amendants are usually done by the faction who lost or is weaker at the end of the war in no way are they tied to morally anything for example finland vs ussr in winter war.