On jobs and happiness

[Ashleyxoxo]

If you eat poorly, you age. If you work hard enough to afford healthier food, the stress from work will age you. Is it safe to say, then, that it doesn’t matter what job you have?

You work to buy happiness. Why not skip a step and do what you love to be happy? I’ll never understand people who overwork themselves to afford a vacation away from their jobs.

[StillMcfuu]

As someone who loves their job, I will tell you flat out that I still hate going to work.

Do whatever affords you the lifestyle that you want. If that lifestyle that you want is unfortunately unrealistic, good luck either working yourself to death or stressing yourself to death.

[BeepBoo]

We'd have to assume your first two premises are correct, OP, in order to answer that, and I don't see the point... because both of them are wrong.

[Shadowferal]

Difference between having a career and having a job.

[shadowmouse]

@AryuFate You wake up tomorrow morning, and you're a day older. Doh! That's the current natural state of life. It is, as the joke goes, a fatal condition.

We approach life with a variety of goals, expectations and fears. YMMV, but I don't see the world through the same filters. I've been waking up a day older across 60 years. I do it with a sleep disorder that means I *never* go into a day well rested and I have chronic pain on top of that. I still find things to amuse myself. For me, a vacation is something I almost never take, but the point isn't to get away from my job. Instead, when I do take a vacation, it is to enjoy something that doesn't fit into my normal schedule.

[Ghostpanther]

For myself, the most important part of a job was the pay, benefits and security. All of those helped me provide for my family and myself. That is important for being happy. The only job I ever had which I enjoyed, offered none of those well enough and I was not happy for my future. So I quit.

After putting in 31 years with my last employer and retiring from them, I live comfortably and am happy. Made the right choice.

[cuafpr]

b.c. i can't do what i love anymore ? Was down sized in 2009 from the USAF nothing else appeals to me.. so i work for money to get away from a shit life stuck as a civy

[Sunseeker]

I enjoy my job, but I can be stressful, in the bad way at times.

I don't think doing what I love would net me very much money, and without that, I wouldn't be able to function in our capitalist society.

You do what you gotta do.

[vindicatorx]

If you eat poorly, you age. If you work hard enough to afford healthier food, the stress from work will age you. Is it safe to say, then, that it doesn’t matter what job you have?

You work to buy happiness. Why not skip a step and do what you love to be happy? I’ll never understand people who overwork themselves to afford a vacation away from their jobs.

A) your entire premise is wrong. If you live, you age.
B) I make well more than enough to eat well and have no stress from work. I have an education in a field that pays well and I'm fortunate enough to have a job that is easy and stress free.

[Ashleyxoxo]

A) your entire premise is wrong. If you live, you age.
B) I make well more than enough to eat well and have no stress from work. I have an education in a field that pays well and I'm fortunate enough to have a job that is easy and stress free.

I don’t believe you. People only say they like to work, because they have to.

[vindicatorx]

I don’t believe you. People only say they like to work, because they have to.

Where did I say I would work if I didn't have to? I work because they give me money that allows me to spend money doing the things I want to do. My job is as stress free as it gets. I call that a win

[Dwarfhamster]

You’re setting the context as a binary option but it’s more than just those two. Life is more nuanced than that.

[Ashleyxoxo]

You’re setting the context as a binary option but it’s more than just those two. Life is more nuanced than that.

That’s what commenting is for.

[shadowmouse]

I don’t believe you. People only say they like to work, because they have to.

I don't have to work, I could easily have settled for disability payments. I work because I enjoy teaching and would be bored if I didn't get to do something to keep my mind comparably engaged. You'll notice that many retired people do something similar.

[Dwarfhamster]

That’s what commenting is for.

Why would I bother commenting when you're already set in the notion of one or the other. And when people say something counter to that, you say "I don't believe you." So you're not here to garner advice or stir conversation; you're just picking fights and trolling.

[smityx]

Unfortunately with automation, new technology coming online all the time and overseas outsourcing more and more jobs/careers will be just gone. We may just end up with 3 different classes of people in some not to distant future. Already rich/wealthy never has to work, technotypes (those able to hang in or service the new tech aka the new middleclass) and then everyone else that the 2 other classes consider a subclass of humanity and push further and further out of society. The few that can find any work will probably find it's just hard menial labor type work that doesn't even cover extremely basic living expenses in a ghetto.

[Acidbaron]

Unfortunately with automation, new technology coming online all the time and overseas outsourcing more and more jobs/careers will be just gone. We may just end up with 3 different classes of people in some not to distant future. Already rich/wealthy never has to work, technotypes (those able to hang in or service the new tech aka the new middleclass) and then everyone else that the 2 other classes consider a subclass of humanity and push further and further out of society. The few that can find any work will probably find it's just hard menial labor type work that doesn't even cover extremely basic living expenses in a ghetto.

Automation is being held back and i believe will continue being held back to a point. Processes will be altered that it will still require some physical labour at a minimum, diminishes the chances of 'human error' at crucial process points and reducing heavy load physical labour that ends up causing physical injuries over time.

The reason for this is simple if people don't earn, people can't spend. Creating social bloodbaths of mass layoffs is a negative for everyone involved including the company. We can argue that jobs are being moved to offset this and that governments should play harder when it comes to those companies trying to import their products again and on that i will agree, however we maintain a large market segment globally and for corporations to keep growing they need those markets, they want all markets basically.

Automation also introduces new jobs, you have different gradations of those who control, maintain and operate the installations. Not every needs to be a robotics specialist, a PLC programmer, a mechanic, an electrician and so forth. You can design lower tier entry levels and it is actually cost efficient, to have those first level responders in since you they can be trained with minimal to no background and considering the high demand for technical skilled people you can train those people up, this is something a lot of companies do, this is not going to cover everyone obviously.

Education is tied to politics and politics is generally too slow to respond, but in the future we'll see more and more governments trying to move quicker on adapting their school programs to their economic needs, that is education for kids, teens, young adults and even adults.

Take note i am writing this from an european stand point where we have systems in place to reactivate unemployed, through actively schooling them into a new branch while giving them a liveable wage during.

However i do not see the future as dystopian as you do and i don't believe it to be that simple of a future either.

[Grimbold21]

I'm gonna take a risk here and say that the people who work in an area doing what they have long known to be their call are a minority.

Most people just take up a job or wander from one to another as a sacrifice because you gotta pay the bills.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

You work to buy happiness. Why not skip a step and do what you love to be happy? I’ll never understand people who overwork themselves to afford a vacation away from their jobs.

Perhaps that's because you have no real responsibilities to worry about in your life.
And based on your post history, you may be a immature person. Be honest, you're not really interested discussing this topic are you?

[Spectral]

You work to buy happiness. Why not skip a step and do what you love to be happy? I’ll never understand people who overwork themselves to afford a vacation away from their jobs.

Nothing that I love doing pays six figures. By doing something that's OK rather than what I love, I only have to do it until some time in my early 40s, then I can do whatever I like.