Why didn't the Blood Elves use their brainwashing techniques to the High Elves?

[Ardenaso]

Since this question didn't get traction in the High Elf Megathread, I might as well ask it here instead.

It was so effective in the Bazaar like the pro-Alliance Blood Elves suddenly wants Alliance blood; this could basically lead all of the Thalassians back to their fold. The Kirin Tor pretty much didn't care that their own people were massacred in Ambermill and that Sylvanas mind controlled Koltira, so I doubt they'd even care about this if the Blood Elves did it.

Quel'lithien Rangers still hating Lor'themar? Zap!

Need a forward base in the Hinterlands? Zap!

That priest is still an Uther fanboy? Zap!

Some stubborn wife in Loch Modan chooses Alliance simps instead of her husband? Zap!

Want to secure a place in Dalaran and need to assure total approval from the neutral humans? Zap!

Purge of Dalaran? Zap!

Sylvanas wants her lil' sister back? Zap!

Basically they could just sneak some of their Priest Police towards the High Elf enclaves and unleash their mind wipes. Maybe this way the High Elves would have been erased out of existence completely or 99% at least.

[omeomorfismo]

not enough priests?
anyway when sylvanas mindcontrolled koltira?

[Ardenaso]

not enough priests?
anyway when sylvanas mindcontrolled koltira?

after the battle of Andorhal

[omeomorfismo]

after the battle of Andorhal

he was imprisoned.
at best he was tortured until the dk questline

[Ardenaso]

he was imprisoned.
at best he was tortured until the dk questline

didn't Sylvanas say something like she will "correct" him?

[Dakhath]

didn't Sylvanas say something like she will "correct" him?

I always read it as she was breaking his spirit, thus correcting what she felt was the wrong behavior. Not any brainwashing or anything like that as when you rescue him, he's thrilled to see his brother in arms.

[Psykho]

Perhaps the brainwashing is only temporary, like Anduin using Mind Control on Pandaria

[Combatbutler]

didn't Sylvanas say something like she will "correct" him?

Correcting someone doesn't need mind control, the dk questline makes it quite clear he is not mind controlled in any way, but she tortured him so bad he doesn't want to talk about it, just think about it if a death knight doesn't want to talk about torture and suffering, you know the guys doing the torture really know their jobs.

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Perhaps the brainwashing is only temporary, like Anduin using Mind Control on Pandaria

This most likely.

[Aucald]

It's probably not permanent, and likely suffers from diminishing returns in the long term - not a viable solution to resolving the Blood/High Elven schism.

[derpkitteh]

the elves that pulled that little move were probably part of kael's sunfury.

that interaction has been in the game since the beginning of BC, right? before kael's revealed to be a traitor to the rest of the elves.

[Ardenaso]

the elves that pulled that little move were probably part of kael's sunfury.

that interaction has been in the game since the beginning of BC, right? before kael's revealed to be a traitor to the rest of the elves.

that's weird, Kael'thas never became with the Horde. Also, Kath'mar made them say "for Lor'themar" and "for the Horde", not "for Kael'thas"

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I always read it as she was breaking his spirit, thus correcting what she felt was the wrong behavior. Not any brainwashing or anything like that as when you rescue him, he's thrilled to see his brother in arms.

Correcting someone doesn't need mind control, the dk questline makes it quite clear he is not mind controlled in any way, but she tortured him so bad he doesn't want to talk about it, just think about it if a death knight doesn't want to talk about torture and suffering, you know the guys doing the torture really know their jobs.

I see I stand corrected. But still, if Dalaran didn't care about the Ambermill massacre, they wouldn't care about this too.

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It's probably not permanent, and likely suffers from diminishing returns in the long term - not a viable solution to resolving the Blood/High Elven schism.

Good answer. That or not enough priests, I'm thinking now that they should've at least used it on very important events like the Purge of Dalaran and when Vereesa was considering becoming Forsaken to join Sylvanas

[sam86]

that's weird, Kael'thas never became with the Horde. Also, Kath'mar made them say "for Lor'themar" and "for the Horde", not "for Kael'thas"

the blood elves as races pledged for the horde under the leadership of Kael'thas, who was back then the faction leader, Lor'themar did it in behalf of Kael'thas, he had the authority to do so and horde agreed on them joining to help them reach Kael in Outlands (u can even see that in the trailer, if it still exist, i have it offline on my pc)
As for him shouting generic quotes that mostly due to in-game limitation nothing else, they won't invent new quotes for that guy specifically, specially way back then when quests was still very noobish, just check Garrosh model
Also and most important : lorewise mind control doesn't work on strong will characters, no idea about current lore sadly but Mind Control isn't a magic zap wand as u make it appears, at best it change ur mind on short term of something u oppose

[Ielenia]

Since this question didn't get traction in the High Elf Megathread, I might as well ask it here instead.

It was so effective in the Bazaar like the pro-Alliance Blood Elves suddenly wants Alliance blood; this could basically lead all of the Thalassians back to their fold. The Kirin Tor pretty much didn't care that their own people were massacred in Ambermill and that Sylvanas mind controlled Koltira, so I doubt they'd even care about this if the Blood Elves did it.

Quel'lithien Rangers still hating Lor'themar? Zap!

Need a forward base in the Hinterlands? Zap!

That priest is still an Uther fanboy? Zap!

Some stubborn wife in Loch Modan chooses Alliance simps instead of her husband? Zap!

Want to secure a place in Dalaran and need to assure total approval from the neutral humans? Zap!

Purge of Dalaran? Zap!

Sylvanas wants her lil' sister back? Zap!

Basically they could just sneak some of their Priest Police towards the High Elf enclaves and unleash their mind wipes. Maybe this way the High Elves would have been erased out of existence completely or 99% at least.

My take? Because Blizzard decided to take the Cataclysm expansion to "brush under the rug" all the bad things that the blood elves did. As far as I know, those BE dissidents (and the priests that show up to mind-control them) have been removed from the game, post-Cataclysm. At least I don't recall seeing them when I made a new BE character.

On top of that, for as much as people like to complain about the Alliance (and more specifically, the humans), the blood elves have become just as much a "can-do-no-evil" entity as the humans, perhaps even more so. I mean... what was the last time the blood elves did something bad, intentionally? And I'm not talking about individuals, like the BEs that were Sylvanas loyalists, I'm talking about as a whole.

[Maljinwo]

Mind Control is probably a spell that can't be used on a lot of people at the same time nor is something that can be maintained indefinetly

[Florena]

Post BC with the sunwell restored they really have taken the edge off of the blood elves in general.

[Kyphael]

Only works on the weak-minded?

[Combatbutler]

I mean... what was the last time the blood elves did something bad, intentionally? And I'm not talking about individuals, like the BEs that were Sylvanas loyalists, I'm talking about as a whole.

Fully supporting the war until after Nazjatar

[Verdugo]

They just used it to disperse the rabble rousers. Doubt it was permanent.

[Ielenia]

Fully supporting the war until after Nazjatar

That's not exactly "bad", per se, if they believed that the war would bring peace in the long run, as per Sylvanas' "original plan" was supposed about.

Clarification: by "something bad", I mean something done for the sake of being "evil/bad", like torturing prisoners, mind-controlling citizens to make them conform, killing for the sake of killing, etc.

[Combatbutler]

Clarification: by "something bad", I mean something done for the sake of being "evil/bad", like torturing prisoners, mind-controlling citizens to make them conform, killing for the sake of killing, etc.

By that definition they never did, they always had a reason or some kind of justification.

The kingdom was on the verge of collapse, hence the mind control, exile of dissenting elements
Torturing for fun, they never did that. Out of hate sure and then the only thing that comes to mind would be during the second war, where they still counted as high elves
Nor did they go around to randomly kill stuff, they experimented with nature or volatile magic, to find a way to sate magical hunger and that was mostly Kael's die hard guys.