I think Blizzard made more money when stuff Wasn't timegated. Imagine all the Subs they would have gotten when 8.3 dropped if ppl ATT didn't have to farm a months or more worth of content just to be 8.3 relevant. (LFR doesn't count).
I think Blizzard made more money when stuff Wasn't timegated. Imagine all the Subs they would have gotten when 8.3 dropped if ppl ATT didn't have to farm a months or more worth of content just to be 8.3 relevant. (LFR doesn't count).
Gearing up isnt that problem i like it but farming again same thing or similar for same target is just bullshit. Doing same quesstline for X times like cloak or visions seriously its just annoyin. I wish to do some alts but im disgusted with this and just drop that idea. If i have some free time to play untlill i could do for example nylotha or proper myth+ i need to do all that things before AGAIN and now when i could start doin proper shit my time is consumed...
Hell no, account wide gear would be stupid. You wanna deal more damage? Farm on them. Essences being wide is enough.
Essences are not gear, actually. They're talents. We have gear as character-specific progression, we don't need anything more. Everything other than gear can and should be account wide progression(with no advantage to having more characters than 1, just the ability to play whichever character you feel like).
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That's the problem. You can absolutely get gear from the content you enjoy only. Arguably AP too, although there's definitely some types of content that massively overreward AP relative to other content(islands and WQs, basically). You can't get cloak upgrades from whatever content you want. You can't get essences from whatever content you want(or well, now alts can, a year into the system existing). There's too much shit on top of gear that you have to get nowadays, and the way acquisition of the extra stuff is distributed is pretty bad.
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Unfortunately there's a bunch of stupid required content I have to do before I get to actually play my alt in content I enjoy(which is the only part I legitimately consider "playing" a character)
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Yes, because essences force you to. Or forced, until literally a week ago. You also had to farm something like 20 hours of random BGs if you wanted to play basically any melee DPS and certain ranged. Mechagon if you wanted to tank any content or do M+ as DPS. Eternal Palace(as in the previous raid) for healing Necrotic or for ST DPS as a bunch of specs. Arena/RBGs for basically every spec in the game.
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Except, if you took a look at the new system, you'd see it's actually way less hoops to "jump through". I mean, I honestly don't get your math. I mean:
Before this change, to get your essences, you'd likely be doing:
• Assaults;
• Mythic+;
• PvP;
• Horrific Visions;
• Nazjatar;
• Eternal Palace;
• Mechagon.
And take days for the Lucid Dreams essence, and several weeks for Condensed Life Force.
And now, you'd likely be doing:
• Assaults;
• Mythic+;
• PvP;
• Horrific Visions.
7 things to grind before... 4 now. How, honestly, did you somehow reach this absurd conclusion that you now have more "hoops to jump through" than you had before? Especially considering, for example, you can get Rank 3 Condensed Life Force in less of an hour instead of having to do Eternal Palace over and over for several weeks?
Account wide gear is not enough, we need account wide self-replenishing consumables.
What is this.. /r/ChoosingBeggers?
Yeah, completely agreed. The current setup for alt essences is more or less how I think essences(and legendaries) should've worked from the beginning. Adding a conquest-style weekly cap to it would be good too. That way if you stay on top of your essence farming, you only have to do a little content to be fine for the week, but if you fall behind you have the option of catching up by doing more content.
It's honestly a bit weird to me how they're obsessed with making you able to get gear from all content, but then forced you to do specific content for specific essences. Seems like a very inconsistent philosophy of wanting multiple valid endgame progression paths.
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Yeah, indeed. That's basically the same sort of idea as conquest. Would be nice if you could get more than 2 +3s for catching up later on by doing more Visions, but (after the buffs to coal droprates) the way the weekly increase to the cloak cap works is good. I was honestly pretty impressed that they had catchup for the +3 cores added in already before they were even available to players, because in WoD they didn't add any catchup to the equivalent item(ring upgrades from Archimonde) until half a year into the patch and in Legion they never added any catchup for it at all.
Or maybe made WoW idle game style just autoclick on attack and lvl up !
What's next? Make a main, click a button and all your alts get 480 BIS gear?
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