[KeyClone] My duel-boxing software keeps saying "License Has Expired" - help!

[Thorbalt]

this is the most stupid thing i have ever read.

Have you seen the facebook pages for antivaxxers, trumps twitter, qanon stuff, or anything by glenn beck?

[Piamonte]

Have you seen the facebook pages for antivaxxers, trumps twitter, qanon stuff, or anything by glenn beck?

i dont read that stuff, im not sadomasochistic

[Darkeon]

Speak for yourself. I've played WoW since Dec 2004 and not once in that 15+ year window has a multi-boxer ruined anything for me. At best it used to make me think my video card was freaking out, but that's about it.

I'll take Economics, for 100, Alex.

[plz delete account]

Don't knock it, until you try it. I may not have netflix because of it, but at least I have a 'friend' who is always up to quest with me

If you actually tried to make friends, you wouldn't need to engage in activities that put you in a hated niche of the community?

[LuminaL]

because you play with an unfair advantage

its kind of a dick move I agree, but it really doesnt have much difference from someone who is let say herb gathering with his friend.

the only part where I believe it should be banned from is PvP.

EDIT: btw I do not do multiboxing or ever did. just an opinion without taking sides

[Ticj]

Anecdotal of course, but the biggest douchebags, trolls, assholes, griefers etc I've encountered in a decade and a half of WoW didn't need to multibox to do it. They were all single-toon/presumably-single account players and still managed to be consummate, absolute dickheads just fine.

Say what you will about the 'economy' but the multi-boxers I've encountered have generally kept to themselves. Hell, one of the nicest people I've ever met in WoW was a guy who multiboxed four moonkins, he just quests and farms mounts/pets.

I understand the frustration with it - especially if you're a PvPr or someone who takes the AH stuff seriously. But multiboxers have never adversely affected my experience in the game, while plenty of people with a single character/account have.

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Precisely.

The problem with multiboxers is that they have the ability to lag the servers at will. The biggest offense to this that I have experienced was in WoD when a multiboxer camped the quest hub in Tanaan Jungle for an entire evening, making it literally impossible to do anything there. When the multiboxer has enough accounts the servers lag to the point where you can get disconnected from being around them. I've had a few other run ins with this since then as well. From my anecdotal experience nearly every single multiboxer I've run into knows they have an advantage over the average player and abuses the absolute shit out of it.

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its kind of a dick move I agree, but it really doesnt have much difference from someone who is let say herb gathering with his friend.

the only part where I believe it should be banned from is PvP.

It has a huge difference because there is a huge difference in the efficiency of farming with a group vs 1 multiboxer. Getting a group together for that requires coordination, while all a multiboxer has to do is log in. Also, with personal loot the larger multiboxers who have 20+ accounts can get ridiculous amounts of farm done compared to the average player.

It is the definition of unfair and the only reason it isn't outright banned like botting is because it gets blizzard money.

[plz delete account]

The problem with multiboxers is that they have the ability to lag the servers at will. The biggest offense to this that I have experienced was in WoD when a multiboxer camped the quest hub in Tanaan Jungle for an entire evening, making it literally impossible to do anything there. When the multiboxer has enough accounts the servers lag to the point where you can get disconnected from being around them. I've had a few other run ins with this since then as well. From my anecdotal experience nearly every single multiboxer I've run into knows they have an advantage over the average player and abuses the absolute shit out of it.

Say, you weren't on Kel'thuzad, were you? we had the same exact problem in Lion's Watch or w/e it was

[Ticj]

Say, you weren't on Kel'thuzad, were you?

I was on Vashj at the time, but this may have been after CRZ was enabled in Tanaan? My realm got grouped with Kel'thuzad on CRZ back then. (My memory is pretty hazy from back then and im not even sure if CRZ was ever enabled in Tanaan during WoD)

[LuminaL]

A full raid group of Death Knights on Timeless Isle spamming AoE back in MoP, Five Druids bugging out WQ Targets using their AoE and Farming FFA Arenas for Honour in Legion and twenty Demon Hunters sitting on WQ objectives in BfA also affects everyone else's business. Blizzard should really have a harder stance against this and should at least cap the amount of accounts allowed. I mean they aren't fine with people botting a single character so why should it be okay with one person playing whilst a bot tells other characters to do the same movements?

tbh that feels more like usual asshole people being asshole they are, that happened to be those guys you mentioned didnt need to find another 2-5 like themselves.

[plz delete account]

I was on Vashj at the time, but this may have been after CRZ was enabled in Tanaan? My realm got grouped with Kel'thuzad on CRZ back then. (My memory is pretty hazy from back then and im not even sure if CRZ was ever enabled in Tanaan during WoD)

We had a solid month of this guy camping it, and so nobody could do their quests in Tanaan. Finally the guy and his 39 alt accounts were banned for griefing.

[Drusin]

Website for KeyClone is Offline, so not sure what I'm suppose to do - anyone know of a solution as my second account character just became a dead weight.

Ask here brotato dual-boxing.com/

Also



https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/11704

<3

Gonna get this blown up 400% and have it framed on my wall.

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I'll take Economics, for 100, Alex.

Like he said, speak for yourself, I have all professions so nothing anyone else does affects me that I can think of. If I need mats I farm them, if I need something crafted I craft it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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You can still tap the same nodes we do.

What do you mean when you say this? Because nodes have a cap, think it's 10, so if there's a 10boxxer running around gathering then no one can tap nodes he gets to it first.

If you meant "we all have the same nodes available to us" then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ you're right

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you do realise herb and ore nodes are personal since wod (or maybe legion)

A multiboxxer with enough accounts can deplete a node by himself.

[Thage]

My only issue with multiboxing is when people use it for farming. It drives down prices when 5+ characters harvest every node and increase the supply by far more than the demand. It does fuck up the economy around those trade materials.

The rest of the time I don't really care about multiboxing. If someone wants to pay for 5 active accounts so they can solo any content or have an insta gank force in world pvp, then sure that's up to them.

It also gives multiboxers an unfair advantage in cornering markets, which in turn lets them price-gouge the items they farmed 2-5+ times as efficiently as even the most efficient solo player running one character. Overall, I don't give a shit if people have fun multiboxing, but exacerbating the already-broken ingame economies or cornering and breaking ingame economies in Classic is a legit problem and it's been a longtime issue. I would wager the unfair economic advantage and the PvP advantage are the top two reasons people take issue with multiboxers (sure, multiboxers are easy to deal with if your group knows what they're doing, but a multiboxer can wreak hell in a BG full of disorganized randos by focusing down healers before anyone has time to react).

And no, "You can group up and be just as efficient" isn't really a defense here, because, as OP themself noted, nobody is going to join you for a 5-hour farming session only to give you all the gear, mats, valuables, and gold they farmed up with you (or, in gold's case, the gold obtained from selling vendor trash).

@OP Your best bet is probably to post this on the service's forums and see what workarounds other multiboxers can offer. You're not likely to get much useful advice here beyond, "Ask someone who knows how to solve or work around this issue."

[Drusin]

If you actively participated in world pvp on a pvp server / war mode, you'd definitely have a different opinion of them. In all my time playing WoW they are the only players who have managed to make my experience unplayable by camping questing areas.

How is this? If I'm running around on my level <120 and a 120 wants me dead then I'm dead. As long as they stay in the area they are making my play experience unplayable.

When some people have the means to grief, they will do it.

FTFY and we can't punish everyone for some players.

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Keyclone is against the ToS..

What makes you say that? The general rule that I hear is "one button one action" and I've never used the Keyclone software before but I'd imagine it just ...clones keys So I press 1 button and it does it across all my accounts. It's still "one action" each character is performing.

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And no, "You can group up and be just as efficient" isn't really a defense here, because, as OP themself noted, nobody is going to join you for a 5-hour farming session only to give you all the gear, mats, valuables, and gold they farmed up with you (or, in gold's case, the gold obtained from selling vendor trash).

I dunno, lot of lonely people in wow lol.

[LuminaL]

The problem with multiboxers is that they have the ability to lag the servers at will. The biggest offense to this that I have experienced was in WoD when a multiboxer camped the quest hub in Tanaan Jungle for an entire evening, making it literally impossible to do anything there. When the multiboxer has enough accounts the servers lag to the point where you can get disconnected from being around them. I've had a few other run ins with this since then as well. From my anecdotal experience nearly every single multiboxer I've run into knows they have an advantage over the average player and abuses the absolute shit out of it.

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It has a huge difference because there is a huge difference in the efficiency of farming with a group vs 1 multiboxer. Getting a group together for that requires coordination, while all a multiboxer has to do is log in. Also, with personal loot the larger multiboxers who have 20+ accounts can get ridiculous amounts of farm done compared to the average player.

It is the definition of unfair and the only reason it isn't outright banned like botting is because it gets blizzard money.

well im not defending it, but OP seems to mention dualboxing which makes me think he has only 2 accounts, which is why I said it doesnt make a lot of difference. 20 I agree, two ? not really.

semi related question, dont nodes just disappear after the 5th or 6th loot out ?

[Tziva]

Since this thread is almost entirely insults and bickering and not at all related to the OP's problem, I'm locking this.

OP, contact the people who make the software you're using. They're the best people to help.