Horrific Visions can get f*cked :)

[Yhcti]

I'm a 463 Havoc DH with a rank 14 cloak and I've attempted 6 +5 masks and STILL cannot complete them due to the UNLUCKIEST f*cking RNG in the world.

Armsmaster in Stormwind, I get knocked into the disorient, he then does his blade flurry and I sit in the entire duration of it because of disorient. Waste my cheat death plus lose another 300 sanity.

Get through that, get to the big mob before Shaw, get feared into a disorient into touch of the abyss into disorient again, kill those, pop my orb, right as the orb spawns, I die due to loss of sanity.

This happens almost every single run I attempt, I get some massive RNG bullsh*t that completely cucks me.

Just to add to the unlucky streak i'm currently on with this DH, I haven't had a decent upgrade from a weekly chest in almost 3 months and I'm only 463 ilvl.

[mysticx]

Maybe do a 4-mask run then?

You lose more from failing repeatedly than from giving up a few mementos and 5 itemlevels on the reward item, but succeeding.

[Eranidus]

To be honest: I don't find it a lot harder.

Yes done only 4 masks on a 467 warrior and 456 rogue, but it is managable.

The Daredevil will make it harder and RNG is pissing off indeed. But the big mob before Shaw fears? Never seen that happen.

And the armsmaster knockback? You need to sidestrep (standbehind) her when that gunshot is getting ready.

[minkage]

I know the frustration of bad strings of RNG or more likely a minor lapse in focus leading to a chain of stuns/fears/sanity loss.

Take a deep breath and then 4 mask it instead.

[Yhcti]

To be honest: I don't find it a lot harder.

Yes done only 4 masks on a 467 warrior and 456 rogue, but it is managable.

The Daredevil will make it harder and RNG is pissing off indeed. But the big mob before Shaw fears? Never seen that happen.

And the armsmaster knockback? You need to sidestrep (standbehind) her when that gunshot is getting ready.

the knockback was probably me stepping to avoid it and hitting the disorient by accident, so a lapse of focus. the big mob fear was because the adds tagged to it, however I couldn't kill them quick enough/stop the stun because I pretty much got insta-feared :/

which of the sanity drains are easier to "avoid" in a 4 mask? do I go with 500 sanity or do I go with the 400% dmg?

[Devilyaki]

Ya had some bad runs this last go around too. Tried to 4 mask on my hunter was going super smooth then pet die and I die from the portal keeper ?? Not ever sure how, happened twice lol then my tank died due to sanity loss on last boss cause behind the pillar but not behind the pillar.. ya rng is a pain, the extra annoying things from that one mask is killer some times.

[Bloodyleech]

This happens when someone tries to do something without at least knowing the very basic mechanics.
Old Town #1 elite does a front cleave (dodge it) and an aoe attack (get out) and #2 elite does a silence zone and a stun(? if I remember right, I kill him to fast as 467 Tank in 5 masks)
It's not about RNG - it's completely your very own fault.
The only RNG that can fuck up a 5 mask SW run is... Well, there is nothing that you can't work around. OG got some harder stuff imo. Alleria is not even much harder than Thrall (his boars can fuck you up more than the complete Alleria fight), just kick her bombs away and look for the savespot when she does her "rain from above" thingy. - if you chill, you clear 5 mask easily as havoc, without even using one orb.

Go for the -50% sanity mask if you can't avoid sanity-hitting abilities, go for the +400% sanity dmg mask if you can avoid all sanity-hitting abilities.

[Mosotti]

Sounds like Diablo Inferno to me.

[Relapses]

I've been playing since early TBC and I cannot think of content which has as routinely severely, severely upset me as much as Visions do. I'm a guy that absolutely fucking loathes doing dailies so to waste an entire fucking Vessel on garbage RNG or other nonsense is infuriating on a level that's hard to put into words. It's been bad enough that I've had to straight up stop playing the game for days at a time.

Challenging content is fine. Tying that content to a finite resource which is only able to be grinded through a single form of (fairly boring) content is not.

[Michael Jackson]

I've been playing since early TBC and I cannot think of content which has as routinely severely, severely upset me as much as Visions do. I'm a guy that absolutely fucking loathes doing dailies so to waste an entire fucking Vessel on garbage RNG or other nonsense is infuriating on a level that's hard to put into words. It's been bad enough that I've had to straight up stop playing the game for days at a time.

Challenging content is fine. Tying that content to a finite resource which is only able to be grinded through a single form of (fairly boring) content is not.

in case anyone's wondering, shit like this is the main reason more and more people have quit the game over the years, same reason why Destiny 2 players are getting more and more frustrated with Bungie

[Relapses]

in case anyone's wondering, shit like this is the main reason more and more people have quit the game over the years, same reason why Destiny 2 players are getting more and more frustrated with Bungie

Please. I doubt anybody's quitting the game because Visions suck. It's frustrating, yes, but not bad enough to make anybody quit. The fix is stupidly simple, too. Just make the content repeatable without wasting the resource used to obtain it.

[Ladey Gags]

This is what you get when you cater to people who think tracking 10 mechanics at a time is fun and challenging. Maybe it’s challenging but its not fun. It’s cumbersome, clunky, and just feels bad. It’s not good gameplay, and peoples’ desire for infinite challenge only shows that they don’t play games for fun anymore, they play for mental stimulation. They are addicts.

Awful awful awful game design. And blizzard is surprised participation is so low in these things, lol

[Ghitza]

I'm a 463 Havoc DH with a rank 14 cloak and I've attempted 6 +5 masks and STILL cannot complete them due to the UNLUCKIEST f*cking RNG in the world.

Armsmaster in Stormwind, I get knocked into the disorient, he then does his blade flurry and I sit in the entire duration of it because of disorient. Waste my cheat death plus lose another 300 sanity.

Get through that, get to the big mob before Shaw, get feared into a disorient into touch of the abyss into disorient again, kill those, pop my orb, right as the orb spawns, I die due to loss of sanity.

This happens almost every single run I attempt, I get some massive RNG bullsh*t that completely cucks me.

Just to add to the unlucky streak i'm currently on with this DH, I haven't had a decent upgrade from a weekly chest in almost 3 months and I'm only 463 ilvl.

I feel you brother. My DH is 471 with Twilight R3 / Infinite Stars R3 combo. Not only that i have your same luck, i`ve also had 650ms latency for the last week. It is impossible and i failed 2 keys. I`ve lost my "cheat death" to the same 2 mobs, few packs before Shaw. I tried a 4 mask next (without 50% sanity) and i was able to do it without loosing more than 300 sanity the entire run. I could have finished the 5 mask run if i knew i would get this lucky.

You can definitely finish a 4 mask run with 1000 sanity. In my case i didn`t used any orb.

Good luck

[Alaenore]

the knockback was probably me stepping to avoid it and hitting the disorient by accident, so a lapse of focus. the big mob fear was because the adds tagged to it, however I couldn't kill them quick enough/stop the stun because I pretty much got insta-feared :/

which of the sanity drains are easier to "avoid" in a 4 mask? do I go with 500 sanity or do I go with the 400% dmg?

Then it's just you mishandling mechanics, not RNG. Whenever I fail them, it's because I've pulled too much or tried to go too quickly. Especially in Old Town, full of knockback, grip, stuns and unforgiving mechanics.

I find the 400% sanity damage incredibly unforgiving on some stuff, so when I run 4 masks instead of 5 it's the one I make sure not to take. The 50% sanity doesn't change much in the end, since I usually don't have to use orbs anyway. I do use the hell out of potions though.

[Zantera]

While I feel your frustration and I had similar hurdles to overcome myself at the start (took me a few failed 5 mask runs before I got it), the thing I learned is while some RNG can screw you over, truth is you really can plan ahead to avoid a lot of it. Split personality + fear circle overlap sucks, BUT if you plan ahead you can minimize how much it punishes you. In my experience pretty much all deaths/fails are a result of your own mistakes such as not respecting the mechanics (for example hugging a wall getting split personality with the opening inside the wall meaning you are kinda screwed) OR overpulling/risking something with not enough sanity to do it.

But i wish you good luck and i'm sure you'll do it soon.

[Devilyaki]

Please. I doubt anybody's quitting the game because Visions suck. It's frustrating, yes, but not bad enough to make anybody quit. The fix is stupidly simple, too. Just make the content repeatable without wasting the resource used to obtain it.

If ever meaningful thing in the game was like that then yes I know I would stop. Just image if mythics had you got do dailies to enter, only got two wipes as well. The race would still be going lol

[Relapses]

If ever meaningful thing in the game was like that then yes I know I would stop. Just image if mythics had you got do dailies to enter, only got two wipes as well.

Dear God don't give them ideas please. >:(

[Mightytasty]

OP, if you are repeatedly failing 5 masks before you even get to the final boss (especially on a DH) then you might need to look up some guides.

I will say that split personality is AIDS in close-quarters stormwind. I agree it can feel like RNG because you can’t even aim where the gap will be - it’s just random. You can be doing everything perfectly and then split personality gap is hidden in a wall. It’s one of the reasons why people prefer Orgrimmar.

I agree with the above poster that challenging solo content needs to be more repeatable in the future.

It took me many tries to complete my first 5 mask, but when I finally did was the best feeling I’ve had playing this game in years.

[Eazy]

Some YT guides are really awesome. Check them out.
Try to not spam Fel Rush if you're not sure(sometimes you will land on the spawn and get stuck, sometimes you'll just jump into some mob etc.).

I wasn't fucked because of the RNG but because of the bugs.

Once I tried to Shadowstep Thrall and got ported under Orgrimmar and received DC, and once I was kiting Alleria and she was standing on the pillar and kept spamming Dark Sky every 5 seconds. I couldn't do anything with Thrall, but for Alleria I just used Vanish, run away and used my orb to restore sanity and try it again.

Dear God don't give them ideas please. >:(

To enter this raid... you have to beat this Battle Pet Master!

[apustus]

I just hate SW in general, especially as melee. Last week did easy 4 masks on my shit geared WW monk alt, this week I'm out of sanity before 4th zone.