Good classes for SOLO pvp?

[daxia3]

Hi!
Its easy to find recommendations for best pvp classes, but almost all of them are for arena or rated BGs. However, there are many of us who just casually enjoy random BGs and WPvP. I have started to play wow again after a long break so I dont really know what classes that are good these days, especially not with good gear.

It seems that many people recommend rogue for casual pvp, but the problem I have with rogues is that you are awesome when you still have all your CDs but when your vanish/cloak/blind etc are on CD you are pretty useless. Another class I see recommended are DHs but this is the one and only class in the game that I cant stand playing for some reason.

My question is, what are the best specs for solo pvp thats not rogue or DH?

How about frost DK? They seem to have the whole package. Baseline stunbreak and immunity, magic dmg shield (immune to fear), ranged stun and kick, spammable chains of ice, grab, baseline slow immunity, root break (gnome), self heal. I am only worried about their damage as they dont really have any big burst as far as I know.

Ww monk also seem to have a lot of tools and better damage than DK.

Mages? They certainly have the burst but kind of lack sustain?

Warlock is way to immobile for me to be fun to play. Hunters seem to hit like a wet noodle against plate.

I dont know, what would you guys that have been playing a lot of BFA recommend?

Thanks!

[melzas]

I'd go with ww monk, great escape and chase, strong defensive in a form of karma, nice burst, very self relying and mobile. If in trouble - serpent kick, roll, roll and heal up.

[Eazy]

Rogue.

The best solo PVP class.
Cannot change my mind.

If not rog/dh then nothing. Maybe Monks or Mages.

[Flantini]

It kind of depends on what lvl you are playing at. If you just a casual player and not looking to 100% min/max your char and skill Id say go with a mage or DK from your list of classes, Possibly even a ret too (although you may feel the same as a ret with no cds as a rogue). Fire mages are good because they can still hit for big gpies with no gear and you dont "need" and absurd amount of corruptions to be in a good spot. Also for casual pvp, sitting back and casting gpies/igniting the whole team can do a lot.

Of course things beat mages 1v1 and the skill of the players matter, but youll have a fun time in casual pvp as a fire mage. Plus mages are good in high rated pvp too so youll have the added option of being able to push your skill should you ever decide.

WWs are good but they need a decent amount of gear and you need to really manage your defensives well and know when to run away vs fight.

Frost DKs are decent, and have the added bonus of chill streak for % health related dmg. Frost also doesnt have an incredibly challenging rotation so it could be a viable option for you for casual pvp if you want a melee spec thats not DH but is kinda DH.

[Ealyssa]

In wpvp restau druid are unkillable 1v1 and are almost always guaranteed to be able to leave the fight when outnumbered.

And dont be fooled by their "healer" tag, they will kill pretty much anything 1v1 or even 1v2 1v3 if the ennemies can't heal themselves.

[Wuusah]

Paladin. They are OP out in the world because they can use lay on hands

[Specialka]

In wpvp restau druid are unkillable 1v1 and are almost always guaranteed to be able to leave the fight when outnumbered.

And dont be fooled by their "healer" tag, they will kill pretty much anything 1v1 or even 1v2 1v3 if the ennemies can't heal themselves.

Pretty much any healer in 1v1 can kill anybody (and that is an issue). The worst offender would be disc priest so less mobility and escape when outnumbered than Resto druid. Same goes for tanks, totally unkillable in 1v1 by dps specs.

[Visor]

In wpvp restau druid are unkillable 1v1 and are almost always guaranteed to be able to leave the fight when outnumbered.

And dont be fooled by their "healer" tag, they will kill pretty much anything 1v1 or even 1v2 1v3 if the ennemies can't heal themselves.

say that to my fire mage. Even resto cannot survive against 2 great orbs at same time + 3 combusted fb + 2 pyro. 600k druids blow up in 3 secs. But always can escape ofc.

But obviously rogue is best class for outworld pvp because you choose proper time to attack. And can easy escape if you see problem with a victim.

[Tyrannica]

Hi!

My question is, what are the best specs for solo pvp thats not rogue or DH?

Damit, wanted to write essays about rogue and DH, that i both mained, in warmode/bgs/arena/raids, but you ruled them out

I say something anways.....most effective in those areas DH, but only if you also are willing to play its tank spec, like when you spot a geared rogue, or you certainly die in a kidney.

Most fun certainly rogue you can have fun in 3 different ways, all specs work flawlessly in warmode and bgs.

How about frost DK? They seem to have the whole package. Baseline stunbreak and immunity, magic dmg shield (immune to fear), ranged stun and kick, spammable chains of ice, grab, baseline slow immunity, root break (gnome), self heal. I am only worried about their damage as they dont really have any big burst as far as I know.

How about no? Is this a joke? In solo pvp? What? you will be a complete victim! Play the much better spec unholy! Frost dks are horrible on their own! If you want a challenge play them solo in wpvp, but at least gear him well and give him nitro boosts, speed potions and gliders you want to select your opponents carefully, too.

Ww monk also seem to have a lot of tools and better damage than DK.

No, ww is about equal to a unholy dk in 1vs1 and i think x vs more as well, at least i killed many people at once as unholy dk back in patch 8.2.(azshara).

Mages? They certainly have the burst but kind of lack sustain?

Arcane is your only option here, fire lacks a reliable slow and frost does not cut it anymore since some changes early in BfA. Mage, like rogue, is all about controlling your opponent. Of course i am maining fire mage, too, and have to say you are probably the most dangerous dd in any kind of group pvp activity. But you looked for solo, right?

Warlock is way too immobile for me to be fun to play. Hunters seem to hit like a wet noodle against plate.

But you can use engineering tools and speed potions to move faster in wpvp and bgs as well! Since this is not arena, speed is a non issue! Like for example unholy dk, give him nitro boost, glider and speed potions, along with his range abilities, dots pet dmg and CoI hardly anyone can escape your consistent dmg!

I dont know, what would you guys that have been playing a lot of BFA recommend?

Strictly for solo warmode and bgs, only? no tank and heal spec? they are all good in this kind of thing. It can be only the class you like to play. Nobody can make the decision for you.

Most effective for that is a feral druid in warmode and moonkin in bgs and its fun, too thats them most important part. Everytime you look at dmg in bgs its most of the time a balance druid, you do not see ferals that often anywhere, but they are king in warmode solo as they got all the tools and can escape quickly with flightform, with some setup even in the middle of a fight ignoring the 5 sec rule.

Unholy dk, ignore frost as its bait and stands for pve.

WW monk.

Destro lock, demo might be fun, but needs too much ramp up, affliction is complete utter trash, even though it was always my spec of choice, this might change in SL, though.

(DH & Rogue of course, but you ruled them out for whatever reasions lol)

But if you want a challenge try enhancement shaman/frost dk or shadow priest solo in warmode, perefereable in bad gear, too and alliance as a faction for that sweet horde filled crowded shards in warmode.

A good hardmode challenge, makes you feel good. Even if you prefere to play the game in B/W from now on, but you probably can't blame yourself, but your spec for spending so much quality time with Bwonsamdi.

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Paladin. They are OP out in the world because they can use lay on hands

Thats not really op, its a requirment to have a chance against the other top dogs like DH who just heals himself all the time he does dmg and palas are not known for beeing the best kiters to prevent uptime and deny leech.

Their best trick in warmode is bubble and HS, always works, but you could use deephom potions and in some quases engineer portals as well to escape a big group of people.

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In wpvp restau druid are unkillable 1v1 and are almost always guaranteed to be able to leave the fight when outnumbered.

And dont be fooled by their "healer" tag, they will kill pretty much anything 1v1 or even 1v2 1v3 if the ennemies can't heal themselves.

don't give him ideas.

[Ealyssa]

Pretty much any healer in 1v1 can kill anybody

That's just factually wrong. A lot of spec can outburst most healers. What makes rdruid unique are their ability to "outpoke" pretty much anyone.
With their immunity to snares and root they can just leave your fighting range and come back once healed. And do this until you die.
Having stealth also obviously allow them to always start the fight in their favor.

The only way to not die is being able to heal yourself as fast as they can (say a prot paladin for exemple). But even then, they will just leave the fight and not come back (and most likely not even botter trying to kill those spec)
Nelf druid having another free out of jail card with shadowmeld + travel/flight form

[Nfinitii]

Hi!
Its easy to find recommendations for best pvp classes, but almost all of them are for arena or rated BGs. However, there are many of us who just casually enjoy random BGs and WPvP. I have started to play wow again after a long break so I dont really know what classes that are good these days, especially not with good gear.

It seems that many people recommend rogue for casual pvp, but the problem I have with rogues is that you are awesome when you still have all your CDs but when your vanish/cloak/blind etc are on CD you are pretty useless. Another class I see recommended are DHs but this is the one and only class in the game that I cant stand playing for some reason.

My question is, what are the best specs for solo pvp thats not rogue or DH?

How about frost DK? They seem to have the whole package. Baseline stunbreak and immunity, magic dmg shield (immune to fear), ranged stun and kick, spammable chains of ice, grab, baseline slow immunity, root break (gnome), self heal. I am only worried about their damage as they dont really have any big burst as far as I know.

Ww monk also seem to have a lot of tools and better damage than DK.

Mages? They certainly have the burst but kind of lack sustain?

Warlock is way to immobile for me to be fun to play. Hunters seem to hit like a wet noodle against plate.

I dont know, what would you guys that have been playing a lot of BFA recommend?

Thanks!

In wpvp mobility and self healing is king. Using ur mobility to get in or out when needed is key. Fights will rarely be 1v1, and sometimes u will have to run and choose fights u know u can win.

This is y dh is the best wpvp class, they have the best mobility and can aoe a pack of mobs to heal to full.

Casters r at a massive disadvantage because of interrupts and most fights will be 1vX.

Dk is weak because it’s super ez to kite.

Feral druid is super strong because of its ability to get in and out of fights easily and it’s ability to self heal.

Fury warriors r strong, strong mobility and self healing. Can kill a random mob for victory rush heal.

I’ve seen videos of hunters do really well.

Idk about monks, don’t c them enough.

A lot of ppl say ret but they r pretty ez to outplay. Low mobility and strong but long cds. Knowing when to fight and when to run is key. But getting stunned without a trinket is an ez way to die during wings.

For random bgs I would say class matters less, playing to the strengths of ur class is most important.

[trapmaster]

Rogue but if blizzard decides to take away their cloak of shadow+vanish then monk it is.

[Aleax]

Rogue but if blizzard decides to take away their cloak of shadow+vanish then monk it is.

How/why would Blizzard decide this now in 2020/2021?

Rogues have pretty much the outdoor pvp monopoly since Classic, and it was even reinforced in the following Xpac (BC) with Cloak of Shadows.

It would be a revolution in WoW as never seen before. Source?

Edit: ok, this was just some words to illustrate what the rogue should lose, for the monk to shine I guess. No source needed.

[Tyrannica]

Rogues have pretty much the outdoor pvp monopoly since Classic, and it was even reinforced in the following Xpac (BC) with Cloak of Shadows.

Not in classic, in vanilla perhaps, such a huuuuuuuuuuuge difference when it comes to rogues, as classic plays with a fixed patch introduced much later than the well known world of roguecraft dominance.

Besides they lacked CoS, its crucial to have a chance against lock and spriest, have you seen the classic tournaments? they are dominated by locks and shadow priests, sometimes mages, too. Rogues only get wins by using heavenly grenades and other item/engineering relateds stuff, its similar how it is in BfA with so many classes getting dominated by non-class things.

The other issue you will immediatly notice when playing on classic servers today, is the spy addon helping to detect rogues before they have a chance to to hit first.