Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Draco-Onis]

Waste of money...

Well he is openly saying he will do a coup and declare victory tomorrow before the votes are all counted.

[Kaleredar]

Well he is openly saying he will do a coup and declare victory tomorrow before the votes are all counted.

Luckily that has absolutely zero legal standing.

And unlike the other illegal stuff trump has done secretively and been excused for later... if Biden is elected Trump can’t “break a law to not be removed as president and then be forgiven for it”

[Draco-Onis]

Luckily that has absolutely zero legal standing.

And unlike the other illegal stuff trump has done secretively and been excused for later... if Biden is elected Trump can’t “break a law to not be removed as president and then be forgiven for it”

He is already thanking the supreme court at his rallies for giving him the election.

[Kaleredar]

He is already thanking the supreme court at his rallies for giving him the election.

It has to make it to them first. Trump has no legal power or authority to challenge the election results.

[Hobb]

Well he is openly saying he will do a coup and declare victory tomorrow before the votes are all counted.

He's been trying to do that.

Trump has already demanded that a winner be decided by midnight Tuesday evening. Any votes uncounted after that time will be discarded.

[Draco-Onis]

It has to make it to them first. Trump has no legal power or authority to challenge the election results.

One of his lackeys on tv and he has said the plan.

1) declare victory after midnight if he is ahead.
2) declare any counting after as illegal and challenge it in court.
3) have his lackeys on the supreme court use the Kavanaugh reasoning if you want to call it that to throw out the votes.
4) become dictator and declared president for life at the end of second term.

[kaid]

I sort of suspect the GOP will legally challenge every single early votes signature to try to grind everything to a halt until the clock runs out and they shrug and go well I guess the state legislatures will have to pick their own slates.

[Hobb]

It has to make it to them first. Trump has no legal power or authority to challenge the election results.

I wouldn't put it past him. Here in Texas he's already sued to have 127,000 mail-in ballets from Harris County (a primarily democrat area) thrown out. At least the Texas supreme court told him 'no'.

[Edge-]

I wouldn't put it past him. Here in Texas he's already sued to have 127,000 mail-in ballets from Harris County (a primarily democrat area) thrown out. At least the Texas supreme court told him 'no'.

That's not Trump, that's local Republicans in Texas who are suing. And it goes to federal court today, so we'll see if they are tossed out or stand.

[Fugus]

I sort of suspect the GOP will legally challenge every single early votes signature to try to grind everything to a halt until the clock runs out and they shrug and go well I guess the state legislatures will have to pick their own slates.

If things go that route and he full on steals it, I expect things to get pretty violent, otherwise we will be lost as a nation as they have just stolen Democracy and the people sat on their hands and let it happen.

[woopytywoop]

No matter what the outcome is of the election, I fear for the future. Not only for the US, but also for the rest of the world.

Nowadays, truth isn't made anymore by facts, logic and reasoning. Truth is something you believe in, like religion.

Even when there is evidence and facts, it's not true when you don't believe it's true.
And the same goes the other way, you don't need evidence and facts when you believe something is true.

[Fugus]

No matter what the outcome is of the election, I fear for the future. Not only for the US, but also for the rest of the world.

Nowadays, truth isn't made anymore by facts, logic and reasoning. Truth is something you believe in, like religion.

Even when there is evidence and facts, it's not true when you don't believe it's true.
And the same goes the other way, you don't need evidence and facts when you believe something is true.

No, the truth is made by the facts, its just that those who dislike they ignore them like they always have and even have a network that peddles the lies and conspiracies to them to reinforce that.

Nowadays though, history isn't written by the victors. It is written by the cameras and the footage and the internet that never forgets. The truth is the truth, regardless of ones belief in it. What needs to be addressed is Fox lying to its base and pretending to be news when it is the opposite.

[Breccia]

He's been trying to do that.

Trump has already demanded that a winner be decided by midnight Tuesday evening. Any votes uncounted after that time will be discarded.

Indeed.

Good thing that's very illegal. Trump doesn't get to change the rules just because he's losing.

[Thekri]

No matter what the outcome is of the election, I fear for the future. Not only for the US, but also for the rest of the world.

Nowadays, truth isn't made anymore by facts, logic and reasoning. Truth is something you believe in, like religion.

Even when there is evidence and facts, it's not true when you don't believe it's true.
And the same goes the other way, you don't need evidence and facts when you believe something is true.

Well I get the way it feels, it has actually always been that way. It is easy to get super gloomy looking at the current situation, but history is really nasty, and we have seen all this stuff before. Sometimes things get better, sometimes they don't.

The point is, don't get depressed about it. Just keep doing your best to make the world around you better, and don't let the current narrative get you down. Detox from all the media negativity every once in a while.

[Breccia]

Biden invades Ohio.

The trolling is real.

[Draco-Onis]

Indeed.

Good thing that's very illegal. Trump doesn't get to change the rules just because he's losing.

Kavanaugh has already signaled that he backs that thinking since when has rules ever stopped these amoral scum bags.

[eschatological]

Biden invades Ohio.

The trolling is real.

I don't get it.

[Breccia]

I don't get it.

I've been saying for a while now, that Biden -- who has excess money and time Trump doesn't have -- should intentionally campaign in states Trump should carry, just to make Trump go on the defensive. Not trying to win the states as much as keeping Trump from attacking.

[xmirrors]

I don't get it.

OH is a state that should be clearly going red, but it's actually only +0.4 Trump right now if we are to believe the polls. Biden going to OH, a state Trump shouldn't have to worry about, and making him worry about it, could indeed be considered political trolling imo. I'm not convinced Biden can make a case to swing it blue but still.

[Kaleredar]

I've been saying for a while now, that Biden -- who has excess money and time Trump doesn't have -- should intentionally campaign in states Trump should carry, just to make Trump go on the defensive. Not trying to win the states as much as keeping Trump from attacking.

Not that I disagree with this logic overall, but I think the day before the election might be better spent firing up your base in more likely swing states.