Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Mormolyce]

Earlier I posted a similiar screenshot from TheHill and used it as an exmaple of the rabid fanbase having very few options for good news anymore, and compared it to FOX News getting good ratings because the other 199 stations showing real news don't get Trump supporters to watch.

Anyhow, the number I posted at the time was a whopping 23k and change -- and this blows it out of the water. I think we have some loose bots, guys, designed to find anything with Trump, FOX News, or McEnemy in it, to like/share and artificially boost it.

I think it will also get regular old views, because Trump supporters will use it to continue their all-time favourite game, playing the victim - while Trump haters will tune in for the schadenfreude.

[Breccia]

I think it will also get regular old views, because Trump supporters will use it to continue their all-time favourite game, playing the victim - while Trump haters will tune in for the schadenfreude.

I've been keeping an eye on TheHill for, oh gee, "a while now". I've never seen anything close to 31,000 regardless of the story. A couple years back I made a stink about 10,000.

[Mormolyce]

I figured it was Cavuto or Wallace that cut away. if it was anyone else on that shitstain network they would not have been cut.

I wonder if they'll start to pivot away from Trumpism and back to their usual shtick - Fox is caught in a cleft stick because Murdoch is trying to encourage them to concede (a fascist revolution would be bad for business... for now) but the rabid fanbase in the US won't accept anything like that.

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I've been keeping an eye on TheHill for, oh gee, "a while now". I've never seen anything close to 31,000 regardless of the story. A couple years back I made a stink about 10,000.

Were they the first to break this story?

[Cosmic Janitor]

Because the saga of the Four Seasons Landscaping Company parking lot press conference is the gift that keeps on giving, Slate interviewed the guy that owns the porn shop next door, Bernie D'Angelo - https://slate.com/human-interest/202...ladelphia.html

You know you've taken a wrong turn in your career path when you go from Time Person of the Year and "Americas Mayor" to, "A guy who owns a porn shop in an industrial part of town is throwing shade at you."

The most curious thing to me is that the article mentions the NYT reporting that they supposedly always wanted to hold it there.. I have to press X to doubt on that.

[Monster Hunter]

Well now I feel old.

Although that might be because I'm old.

Ageing is scary, ngl didnt think id get to 30 now im not sure where the fuck to go from here :/

[Mormolyce]

I don't disagree, but there is a different between a stimulus package and no stimulus package.

Man, the degree to which they shot themselves in the foot with the stimulus package debate was astonishing. I was scrolling through all the "pwease mr twump we need welief" posts, Jesus Christ can they grovel. As if the Republicans gave two shits about them.

I'm still not sure if they actually thought they could straight up kick their entire base in the dick and count on their mental gymnastics to not lose a single vote, or if they saw the defeat coming and figured they'd just transition into obstructionism early because they were going to lose anyway...

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Ageing is scary, ngl didnt think id get to 30 now im not sure where the fuck to go from here :/

A decade from now you'll be telling the next generation "How can you fall for this same shit again? We already went through this with Trump!" and they'll all say "Who's Trump? And what's a Pokemon?".

[Edge-]

The most curious thing to me is that the article mentions the NYT reporting that they supposedly always wanted to hold it there.. I have to press X to doubt on that.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11...s-four-seasons

Apparently that's the case. In no small part because they were apparently looking to get AWAY from the downtown area where they knew they'd have a hostile crowd of Biden supporters interrupting the press conference.

Trump just didn't pay attention when he was told and only heard "Four Seasons", and naturally assumed the hotel. Which is like...very believable, IMO.

[Breccia]

The NYTimes reports --

"Paywall."

Growing Discomfort at Law Firms Representing Trump in Election Lawsuits

Doing business with Mr. Trump — with his history of inflammatory rhetoric, meritless lawsuits and refusal to pay what he owes — has long induced heartburn among lawyers, contractors, suppliers and lenders. But the concerns are taking on new urgency as the president seeks to raise doubts about the election results.

Some senior lawyers at Jones Day, one of the country’s largest law firms, are worried that it is advancing arguments that lack evidence and may be helping Mr. Trump and his allies undermine the integrity of American elections, according to interviews with nine partners and associates, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to protect their jobs.

At another large firm, Porter Wright Morris & Arthur, based in Columbus, Ohio, lawyers have held internal meetings to voice similar concerns about their firm’s election-related work for Mr. Trump and the Republican Party, according to people at the firm. At least one lawyer quit in protest.

As Mr. Trump campaigned for president in 2016, a Jones Day partner, Donald F. McGahn II, served as his outside lawyer, leading recount fights in critical states. Mr. McGahn later became Mr. Trump’s White House counsel, before returning to Jones Day.

At the time, some senior lawyers at Jones Day objected to working closely for a polarizing presidential candidate, according to three partners at the firm. They grimaced at the sight of Mr. McGahn standing with Mr. Trump onstage after he won the New Hampshire primary in February 2016. A month later, the firm hosted a meeting at its Capitol Hill office with Mr. Trump and Republican lawmakers as he sought to win over the party establishment.

The firm’s work for Mr. Trump has also garnered it unfavorable public attention. “Jones Day, Hands Off Our Ballots,” read a mural painted on the street outside the law firm’s San Francisco offices late last week.

Before the 2020 campaign, some partners at Jones Day said, they had to reassure clients that the firm’s representation of the Trump team would not influence the rest of the firm’s work, according to four partners. Lawyers at the firm have worked to promote gun control and have represented unaccompanied minors, including many detained by the federal government.

But partners generally swallowed their concerns about the close relationship with Mr. Trump.

Then the president and his allies, down in the polls, began fanning fears about voter fraud, part of a broader effort to sow doubts about the integrity of the election.

Six Jones Day lawyers said that given the small number of late-arriving ballots involved in the litigation, and the fact that they already had been segregated, the main goal of the litigation seemed to be to erode public confidence in the election results.

Jones Day did not respond to a request for comment.

In recent days, two Jones Day lawyers said they had faced heckling from friends and others on social media about working at a firm that is supporting Mr. Trump’s efforts.

A lawyer in Jones Day’s Washington office felt that the firm risked hurting itself by taking on work that undermined the rule of law. “To me, it seems extremely shortsighted,” the lawyer said.

The depth of my concern for people who intentionally worked for Trump, only to realize doing unethical things publicly might make them look bad, would barely cover a pencil on its side. But it would probably completely cover up their dignity.

[beanman12345]

I wonder if they'll start to pivot away from Trumpism and back to their usual shtick - Fox is caught in a cleft stick because Murdoch is trying to encourage them to concede (a fascist revolution would be bad for business... for now) but the rabid fanbase in the US won't accept anything like that.

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Were they the first to break this story?

It's a fine line. Gotta keep the conspiracy theories hooked and not turn them off. For now they'll walk the tightrope between both, but Biden's gonna get sworn in jan 20th. So yeah they'll pivot away the futher we go and go back to their usual shtick. They'll go back to crying that he wore a bike helmet, or dijon mustard, or not wearing a suit jacket or wearing a tan suit or some other bullshit to keep their base angry and tuned in. The base doesn't have anywhere else to go. And don't give me OANN because look at fox base. avg age is 75. people that old are pretty stuck in their patterns and unlikely to abandon for another network. And especially if they let trump have the reigns of OANN, well it'll be shortly bankrupt.

[s_bushido]

The depth of my concern for people who intentionally worked for Trump, only to realize doing unethical things publicly might make them look bad, would barely cover a pencil on its side. But it would probably completely cover up their dignity.

Who would have thought that representing a wannabe dictator in his efforts to undermine democracy might make you look bad. Strange.

[Valdhammer]

On that Barr announcement, I in particular don’t like the use of the word “irregularities” in this context. It is way too broad.

Now, this could all just be for show but it’s really dangerous nonetheless, and it shows that democracy in this country has one foot in the grave and the other is on a banana peal.

[Mormolyce]

I feel like Trumpism has done permanent damage to the old Republican con. It's going to take a generation before anyone starts to forget what they saw here, and furthermore his base is no longer content to wear sheepskin. They want to be out and proud and they don't understand why establishment Republicans and Fox News types are trying to keep their odious nature under wraps.

If 2020 has proved anything it's that they won't wear masks anymore, even if it kills them.

[beanman12345]

I feel like Trumpism has done permanent damage to the old Republican con. It's going to take a generation before anyone starts to forget what they saw here, and furthermore his base is no longer content to wear sheepskin. They want to be out and proud and they don't understand why establishment Republicans and Fox News types are trying to keep their odious nature under wraps.

If 2020 has proved anything it's that they won't wear masks anymore, even if it kills them.

It's the irony that Dave Chappelle made the joke. They don't want to wear the Klan mask anymore, cause without it covid can spread, and who's affected the most by it? yeah...

[jonnysensible]

man i took some infraction points at a bad time. Where is that burner who gets to 10 posts before they are banned who said they had 6 figures on trump and had studied polling and betting markets for 20 years.

where you at buddy?

[Edge-]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...cession-435376

Politico has grouped up Republican responses to Trump's refusal to concede, and put them in three easy to remember clubs -

All-in On Trump

Let Things Play Out

The Rip-the-Band-Aid Caucus

The last group appears to be mostly made up of retiring Republicans with nothing to lose. The first group has all the names you'd expect to see from Cruz to Gaetz.

[beanman12345]

man i took some infraction points at a bad time. Where is that burner who gets to 10 posts before they are banned who said they had 6 figures on trump and had studied polling and betting markets for 20 years.

where you at buddy?

His OCPD broke his mind. 500 accounts for this thread, the election might have put him in the hospital.

[Belize]

man i took some infraction points at a bad time. Where is that burner who gets to 10 posts before they are banned who said they had 6 figures on trump and had studied polling and betting markets for 20 years.

where you at buddy?

That's some real r/wallstreetbets shit

[Mormolyce]

It's the irony that Dave Chappelle made the joke. They don't want to wear the Klan mask anymore, cause without it covid can spread, and who's affected the most by it? yeah...

Ah dang, I need to watch that.

[beanman12345]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...cession-435376

Politico has grouped up Republican responses to Trump's refusal to concede, and put them in three easy to remember clubs -

All-in On Trump

Let Things Play Out

The Rip-the-Band-Aid Caucus

The last group appears to be mostly made up of retiring Republicans with nothing to lose. The first group has all the names you'd expect to see from Cruz to Gaetz.

Ahh noticing the similarity with the rip-the-band-aid caucus are almost all are retiring, so they don't have to give a fuck.

[Thepersona]

That's some real r/wallstreetbets shit

My dude, when i was lurking on the r/politics megathreads about the election the concern trolls almost always were posters on that damned sub.