Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[postman1782]

Hmm, you only needed to google his name and find that it was a Trump supporter seeking clicks. (Could have been a Biden supporter, not taking sides here)

No conspiracy theory. I just find it interesting to see how people react to fraud, instigated by their own party.
Do you ignore it, deny it or concede that this should not be condoned.

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If it makes you feel better, I'd totally ask aliens for asylum if they ever land on our soil.

Sure thing Boo Boo.

[Adhominem]

Considering you pushed an outright already debunked conspiracy and asking an ignorant question, we already know what side you lean on.

Truth be told, there are numerous reasons to dislike Trumps policy, lack of leadership and conduct. But not all he did was bad for the country. I'm not a socialist so can't give allegiance to Biden blindly. The question I posed was one to gauge integrity and the value of conviction.

[PrimiOne]

Genuine question to those who saw the video on twitter

You could have stopped just right there because making any conclussion about voter fraud based on a Twitter video is a complete an absolute lack of intelectual honesty.

If there's any kind of error in the validation/recount of any ballot I expect the courts to tell us , if any of the lawsuits gets any traction , not....Twitter. I just can accept any kind of blind "proof" from Twitter as any sane person should do.

Look, this is not about voter fraud. It's ridiculous. The legal offensive of the (soon) ex-retard in chief is not about changing the outcome of these elections : he is well aware he lost.It's done.He is out. The real purposes of this not-conceding strategy are three:

1. Enrage his cult so they double down on the worship.
2. Enable a narrative that he is gonna be pushing for 4 years until 2024 about how the presidency was stolen from him.
3. Allow him to avoid having to give any kind of explanations about the lost.

Point 3 is a really basic element of public communication. Even if the denial of an event is not plausible denying it creates a wildcard response for every question.

Reporter:"Mr.Trump...what do you think are the main causes you lost the election?"
Mr.Trump:" I WON THE ELECTION!!! IT WAS STOLEN FROM ME!!"

No explanations given. No acknowledging of being a loser. Public Communication 101. Of course only works if you cult are willing to reject reality but that's not a problem from Trump.


This is all about the 2024 campaign not about these elections. Don't be innocent.

[postman1782]

Truth be told, there are numerous reasons to dislike Trumps policy, lack of leadership and conduct. But not all he did was bad for the country. I'm not a socialist so can't give allegiance to Biden blindly. The question I posed was one to gauge integrity and the value of conviction.

No, the question you posed was debunked almost a fucking week ago. Name me one good thing that Trump has done, and I can probably shit all over it pretty easily.

[TrollHunter3000]

Truth be told, there are numerous reasons to dislike Trumps policy, lack of leadership and conduct. But not all he did was bad for the country. I'm not a socialist so can't give allegiance to Biden blindly. The question I posed was one to gauge integrity and the value of conviction.

I really don't get this "socialist" bullshit argument constantly spewed by you trumpsters. Oh sorry you're "independent".

Do you have any clue how many socialist programs the US has had for centuries?

[Machismo]

Truth be told, there are numerous reasons to dislike Trumps policy, lack of leadership and conduct. But not all he did was bad for the country. I'm not a socialist so can't give allegiance to Biden blindly. The question I posed was one to gauge integrity and the value of conviction.

Biden isn't a socialist.

[postman1782]

I really don't get this "socialist" bullshit argument constantly spewed by you trumpsters. Oh sorry you're "independent".

Do you have any clue how many socialist programs the US has had for centuries?

Yep, Boomer Republicans HATE SOCIALISM WITH A PASSION. But if they are farmers, they love their farm subsidies that are keeping them afloat after Trump's trade war, or they love Social Security, or Medicare, and a whole slough of other programs they use. But if everyone else gets the same medical care as they do, it is the devil and socialism.

They even called the ACA, the biggest forced expansion of capitalistic healthcare, socialism. It makes no fucking sense.

[Adhominem]

You could have stopped just right there because making any conclussion about voter fraud based on a Twitter video is a complete an absolute lack of intelectual honesty.

If there's any kind of error in the validation/recount of any ballot I expect the courts to tell us , if any of the lawsuits gets any traction , not....Twitter. I just can accept any kind of blind "proof" from Twitter as any sane person should do.

Look, this is not about voter fraud. It's ridiculous. The legal offensive of the (soon) ex-retard in chief is not about changing the outcome of these elections : he is well aware he lost.It's done.He is out. The real purposes of this not-conceding strategy are three:

1. Enrage his cult so they double down on the worship.
2. Enable a narrative that he is gonna be pushing for 4 years until 2024 about how the presidency was stolen from him.
3. Allow him to avoid having to give any kind of explanations about the lost.

Point 3 is a really basic element of public communication. Even if the denial of an event is not plausible denying it creates a wildcard response for every question.

Reporter:"Mr.Trump...what do you think are the main causes you lost the election?"
Mr.Trump:" I WON THE ELECTION!!! IT WAS STOLEN FROM ME!!"

No explanations given. No acknowledging of being a loser. Public Communication 101. Of course only works if you cult are willing to reject reality but that's not a problem from Trump.


This is all about the 2024 campaign not about these elections. Don't be innocent.

Was looking at a more basic, easily to digest example of blatant misdirection. Not seeking to open the can of worms that is the ongoing investigation of ballot fraud.
It's wether a person with a certain belief can understand what powers are in force to enforce a win. Can one make a stand, even though it's detrimental to their cause?

[nonameelf]

Truth be told, there are numerous reasons to dislike Trumps policy, lack of leadership and conduct. But not all he did was bad for the country. I'm not a socialist so can't give allegiance to Biden blindly. The question I posed was one to gauge integrity and the value of conviction.

Right, no one who isn't a Trump cultist would seriously call Biden a socialist.

[Adhominem]

No, the question you posed was debunked almost a fucking week ago. Name me one good thing that Trump has done, and I can probably shit all over it pretty easily.

The timestamp doesn't matter really. It's the response I'm after. Hoping to see some sort of integrity bloom inside the devoted.

I really don't get this "socialist" bullshit argument constantly spewed by you trumpsters. Oh sorry you're "independent".

Do you have any clue how many socialist programs the US has had for centuries?

He was very social towards the Trump voters in his speech. That's enough for me. How dare he.
On a more serious note, it didn't do the Democrats any favours when it comes to seats. Hope they seek the road to a middle ground after they learned their lesson.

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Right, no one who isn't a Trump cultist would seriously call Biden a socialist.

I'll tell the Cubans.

[Machismo]

The timestamp doesn't matter really. It's the response I'm after. Hoping to see some sort of integrity bloom inside the devoted.


He was very social towards the Trump voters in his speech. That's enough for me. How dare he.
On a more serious note, it didn't do the Democrats any favours when it comes to seats. Hope they seek the road to a middle ground after they learned their lesson.

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I'll tell the Cubans.

Evidence, please.

[Timester]

Truth be told, there are numerous reasons to dislike Trumps policy, lack of leadership and conduct. But not all he did was bad for the country. I'm not a socialist so can't give allegiance to Biden blindly. The question I posed was one to gauge integrity and the value of conviction.

"I'm an concerned independent, not a socialist like Biden."

There are two wrongs there, you aren't independent and Biden isn't socialist.

[nonameelf]

I'll tell the Cubans.

And they're wrong. Biden is not a socialist at all. It's 100% pure bullshit propaganda from the Trump cult.

[Timester]

I'll tell the Cubans.

Do tell, because Cubans' vision of socialism is completely different from yours. Both wrong, by the way.

[postman1782]

The timestamp doesn't matter really. It's the response I'm after. Hoping to see some sort of integrity bloom inside the devoted.


He was very social towards the Trump voters in his speech. That's enough for me. How dare he.
On a more serious note, it didn't do the Democrats any favours when it comes to seats. Hope they seek the road to a middle ground after they learned their lesson.

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I'll tell the Cubans.

So, you want a response to something that has already been debunked? Jesus fucking christ.

And Biden isn't a socialist, and if they Cubans believe he is, then they are just fucking gullible.

[Machismo]

And they're wrong. Biden is not a socialist at all. It's 100% pure bullshit propaganda from the Trump cult.

He's just trying to be a "Radical Centrist," and a "Devil's Advocate" as well as all the other names of the accounts he's pushed.

[fwc577]

He's just trying to be a "Radical Centrist," and a "Devil's Advocate" as well as all the other names of the accounts he's pushed.

God, I used to have a buddy who is a Trump supporter and always tried to play devils advocate but always just ended up being full retard. Glad that person is no longer in my life, haha.

[Felya]

He's just trying to be a "Radical Centrist," and a "Devil's Advocate" as well as all the other names of the accounts he's pushed.

No, just an embarrassed Trump supporter. Note the conflating socialism and social, as well as calling voting for a man that has been in government for 40 years... a vote for an unknown. Blind trust as they put it...

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God, I used to have a buddy who is a Trump supporter and always tried to play devils advocate but always just ended up being full retard. Glad that person is no longer in my life, haha.

This isn’t devil’s advocate, it’s normalizing Trump behavior. Try asking a Trump supporter if they are a devil’s advocate and watch them get pissed you called them a democrat.

[Adhominem]

It would seem that I was wrong for supporting Biden then.

[Felya]

It would seem that I was wrong for supporting Biden then.

Yeah, should have voted for the guy that’s asking for donation to his ‘rigged election’ fund, with fine print saying 50% is going to pay off campaign debt.

Edit: I know you said Biden is an unknown... but, do you think Biden will hold rallies on the tax payer dime, for the duration of his presidency?