Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Kaleredar]

And if that isn't enough, the article I cited pointed out that law firms could face anything from ridicule to a boycott for, you know, directly taking part in an attack on democracy in the USA.

I wonder why they even took the case(s) in the first place? I mean, did they think "well surely if we investigate we'll find evidence" only to come up empty? Or did they say "We'll make a quick buck, then Trump will get bored and/or fire us?" What's the best excuse for the law firms who willingly took these cases, then bailed and left?

I’d imagine that they’d still be billing trump for the “discovery” they’d be undergoing in their “search” for legal grounds.

And then when they find nothing they send him the bill and say “sorry, can’t represent you. Now, about that check...”

[Machismo]

After a week, both parties should be looking at how the map has shifted for the presidential election.

1. The Democrats were able to reclaim their Blue Wall. They definitely need to reinforce the shit out of it, and part of that will be pushing jobs programs and modernization/education in the Rust belt. Democrats also need to change the messaging about policing, and take a more positive approach. Pennsylvania is very pro-police, especially in the suburbs. Make this about improvement, and not punishment.

2. More red states are in play. Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina and even Texas are states that are now contested. Both parties are going to need to push messaging at the state and local level to make sure that the voters are loyal to the particular parties.

3. Florida is a red state, and should be treated as such. Just like Ohio is slipping away from the Dems, the amount of effort that is put into those states should be reduced. No amount of effort is going to make Florida a reliable "get" for the Democrats. That money and effort can better be spent elsewhere. As Skroe made clear a long time ago, the GOP simply has a better ground game in Florida, and the Dems simply cannot compete.

4. The Democrats are going to be able to do what the GOP has been doing for two decades. The GOP has long pushed a "bend, but don't break" mentality with states. It's better to win two states by 3 points each, than to win one state by 20 points. That means the focus should be on growing demographics in those battleground states. For Georgia, North Carolina, and Texas, that means going after suburbanites, white women, and young, college grads. For Arizona, that means appealing to Latinos (same for Texas), and moderates. The GOP pushed a better message this year than Democrats did in regards to how to appeal to Latinos, because they basically stopped pandering to them, and simply tried selling the narrative of socialism. The Democrats need to stop trying to baby Latinos, and start focusing on preaching opportunity, family, and the moral values of work ethic, and honesty.

5. The GOP doesn't have a lot of states to gain. Outside of the Blue Wall that Trump won in 2016, the only blue state that is in danger for the Dems, is Nevada. That means the GOP has to target the Rust Belt, and they need to come up with a permanent solution to winning it over. I think the days of them promising they'll save their dying industries is long gone. Trump promised welfare, giveaways, all while promoting his racism in order to blame other groups for why the jobs are going away. I think the GOP needs to help those states come to terms with the fact that those jobs are not coming back, and innovation is required. That means pushing tech-sector jobs in those states, and lots of them. Push the local politicians to offer tax incentives, land, and anything else they can think of to lure new jobs and industries to the area. here's the kicker, they also need to push for the locals to learn those trades, or else those states will simply turn blue, like Omaha did. For a long time, the narrative was that the Rust belt was all about rugged men who worked an honest day in the factory, and came home to their wives. Now, they need to sell the image of those same rugged men working in a data center, keeping their hands cleaner, and still going home to their wives. Sell the easy life, and sell it like they deserve the easy life, because they will have earned it.

[Mormolyce]

Clyburn and others however aren't wondering

House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn isn't happy with his Democratic caucus for allowing slogans to dominate the narrative about their party, telling "Axios on HBO" that phrases like "defund the police" cost them crucial seats in the House and Senate.
"That phrase — 'defund the police' — cost Jaime Harrison tremendously,"

"Stop sloganeering," he said. "Sloganeering kills people. Sloganeering destroys movements. Stop sloganeering. And let's go about the business of representing people and building hopes and aspirations for people."

Rep. Marc Veasey of Texas said these slogans gave Republicans ammunition to use in “commercial after commercial” against their candidates.

Rep. Abigail Spanberger, who eked out a re-election victory in Virginia, took aim at her colleagues who have embraced the "defund the police" movement and said Democrats needed to be better at fighting the "socialism" label.

That's fucking idiotic, they think they're going to win an election without at minimum a slogan? This is the precise problem with modern politics, they just sit back, offer voters nothing and hope the other side says something they can pick apart. It's exactly what got us to this point.

If they don't like the messenging then they need to get their heads out of their asses and come up with better messenging.

Jesus Christ, these old fossils have learned absolutely nothing. I almost wish Trump had won, maybe that would've been a fucking wakeup call... albeit too fucking late...

[Adam Jensen]

AOC is more popular than the rest of the Democrats combined, but apparently that's not a meaningful metric to establishment Dems. And they wonder why they failed to materialise a blue wave.

"Maybe I'm out of touch and the people do want universal healthcare, climate change action, and better worker rights"

*Principal Skinner meme*

"No, it's the people who are wrong."

[zorkuus]

That's two in your post, and I mentioned a third earlier. This is an exodus.

Trump will be ok, he still has legal genius Rudy.

[CastletonSnob]

There are people still pretending that Bernie wouldn't have lost in a landslide.

[Mormolyce]

Walls are closing in -
https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...ection-2020-11

That's some ABoringDystopia shit lol.

"So it seems like democracy is about to fall to fascism, what's the best way for us to monetise this? How does this affect our branding?".

On a similar note, the Zuck chose today to argue that Steve Bannon hasn't done anything to deserve being removed from Facebook lol.

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There are people still pretending that Bernie wouldn't have lost in a landslide.

Well neither of us have access to an alternate universe to test our theories, but I'd lay money he would've gotten more votes than Biden.

[TACOshake]

More law firms bail on the Trump Campaign

I hear Jeffrey Toobin is looking for work now.

He, Dersh, and Rudy could come together to form some kind of creeper voltron.

There are people still pretending that Bernie wouldn't have lost in a landslide.

You mean the guy that lost the primaries in a landslide?

[kaelleria]

I hear Jeffrey Toobin is looking for work now.

He, Dersh, and Rudy could come together to form some kind of creeper voltron.



You mean the guy that lost the primaries in a landslide?

Ugh... the more I hear about Toobin, the more I never want to hear from him again...

[Mormolyce]

Trump's remaining PA representation specializes in Divorce...

Trump's never been able to get decent lawyers. He's represented by ambulance chasers like Sekulow and shameless political grifters like Giuliani for a reason.

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile...r-report-says/

[Mormolyce]

They also kicked him to the curb, the first chance they had.

They essentially had to, otherwise the Republicans could easily call them hypocrites on the subject. Happens a lot in politics.

[solinari6]

Ugh... the more I hear about Toobin, the more I never want to hear from him again...

Aww, I kind of feel bad for him. I mean, who hasn't thought about stroking one out during a zoom meeting? I can't believe no one recorded that footage!

[Mormolyce]

This is crazy, truly. I can’t believe anyone would support not upholding our democracy, choosing instead to start, what seems like a dictatorship.

Conservatives have only ever paid lip service to democracy. A five minute conversation with the typical conservative is usually enough to realise that democracy is incompatible with their worldview.

It makes sense really, "right wing" politics began as the aristocratic supporters of the monarchy during the French Revolution. They only accepted democracy because it was no longer tenable to oppose it openly.

[DingDongKing]

In other news, Kevin McCarthy thinks it's time for Congress to reconvene in person. Right, cos let's have GOP Reps spread COVID to everyone...

[Draco-Onis]

In other news, Kevin McCarthy thinks it's time for Congress to reconvene in person. Right, cos let's have GOP Reps spread COVID to everyone...

They are probably hoping to use COVID to kill some democrats and I wish I were joking.

[Bodakane]

You mean the guy that lost the primaries in a landslide?

If the primaries are indicative of the general election, then Bernie should have been the VP nom.

You can't have it both ways.

[kaelleria]

Aww, I kind of feel bad for him. I mean, who hasn't thought about stroking one out during a zoom meeting? I can't believe no one recorded that footage!

So this is where men and women are different I guess...

There's also a lot more to the story.

TLDR - he had an affair with a junior staffer that ended up with her getting pregnant and him trying to get her to have an abortion.

[xmirrors]

You mean the guy that lost the primaries in a landslide?

But he dropped out tho!!!!!!!111

[Breccia]

In other news, Kevin McCarthy thinks it's time for Congress to reconvene in person.

Did he say why?

[Shadowferal]

That's fucking idiotic, they think they're going to win an election without at minimum a slogan? This is the precise problem with modern politics, they just sit back, offer voters nothing and hope the other side says something they can pick apart. It's exactly what got us to this point.

If they don't like the messenging then they need to get their heads out of their asses and come up with better messenging.

Jesus Christ, these old fossils have learned absolutely nothing.

Maybe it's you.
Or do you really believe what works in NYC should work in rural red state?
There's a reason why Harrison repudiated that dumb shit.