Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Theodarzna]

I don't see him talking to or about you, but you inserted yourself. It's generally called a "Freudian slip"

But such virulent islamophobia isn't alt-right behaviour, right?

So you can't scroll up a few posts, on the previous page and see it?

It's not our fault you came riding in, unbidden, and responded to something that tacitly confirmed your alt-right base. It is your fault you don't understand how. But just ask, we'll help.

Speaking of the Alt-Right:

I plan to vote for Biden and a straight democratic ticket. It’s not based on “accelerationism” or anything like that; the liberals are clearly more competent people.

Guess whose ridin' with Biden? Richard B. Spencer. Between the dregs of George W. Bushes national security goons are crawling up from the ash pits of Mordor to endorse him, to this. The Alt-Right has joined the #Resistance.

Unlike you guys, I'm not voting for the candidate endorsed by Richard Spencer and the Alt-Right.

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cough... cough... time to put up or shut up....

You guys constantly make claims, and can never seem to prove them.

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Some of us might consider you less of a bigot if you didn't do shit like:

Or:

Which describes almost no Democrats that I can think of. Being corporate friendly isn't necessarily desirable but its a far cry from Reaganomics. Inter-sectional isn't a dirty word.

You're one of the few posters that actually espouses bigotry in their signature.

That describes every Democrat since the age of Clinton, and essentially Obama's economic policy. Remember, he picked Larry Summers.

[Eviscero]

Speaking of the Alt-Right:


Guess whose ridin' with Biden? Richard B. Spencer. Between the dregs of George W. Bushes national security goons are crawling up from the ash pits of Mordor to endorse him, to this. The Alt-Right has joined the #Resistance.

Unlike you guys, I'm not voting for the candidate endorsed by Richard Spencer and the Alt-Right.

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You guys constantly make claims, and can never seem to prove them.

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That describes every Democrat since the age of Clinton, and essentially Obama's economic policy. Remember, he picked Larry Summers.

Brain damage or trolling? These are the only two options for such an incoherent post. Trump is the alt right candidate, end of story. He is currently and has been supported by the alt right since the very beginning, his policies often align with explicit alt right aims while Biden's are almost universally opposed to said policies... So what the actual fuck are you even talking about?
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[Theodarzna]

Brain damage or trolling? These are the only two options for such an incoherent post. Trump is the alt right candidate, end of story. He is currently and has been supported by the alt right since the very beginning, his policies often align with explicit alt right aims while Biden's are almost universally opposed to said policies... So what the actual fuck are you even talking about?

Sorry, Richard Spencer has joined the #Resistance, the Alt-Right is Ridin' with Biden.
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[cubby]

Pretty sure Orange Joe covered it.

When the talk was the true goals of the alt right, Theo inserted herself into it and asked "What do you actually believe are my goals?", instantly saying she is alt right.

You were referring to that, right?

I agree that your characterization of my point towards Theo is correct. I'm now confused about Orange Joe's response.

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I think you are reading my post wrong

I AM reading your post wrong - sorry about that.

[Ursus]

I agree that your characterization of my point towards Theo is correct. I'm now confused about Orange Joe's response.

When Orange Joe said "you", he was referring to Theo, not you.

[Ivanstone]

That describes every Democrat since the age of Clinton, and essentially Obama's economic policy. Remember, he picked Larry Summers.

Do you not even understand what Reaganomics is? Its just more bullshit "both sides do it" from a right winger who is too ashamed of her own politicians to defend them.

Consider healthcare:
1 - Is it undesirable that the Dems chose to help the for-profit insurance/hospital model over a single-payer model? Yes but it was still more likely to pass. Even if a single payer model was chosen like M4A, it still would be difficult to implement for a variety of reasons. The least evil component is actually the insurance part of the industry. The ACA was still an improvement over what the US had.
2 - The GOP had power and made things worse. The previous time they had power they also made things worse. I'm pretty sure Saint Ronnie did his fair share of fuckery too.

See the difference here? One falls short of its intentions. The other side makes it worse. Pick any economic subject and you'll get the same thing. They're not the same. Its fair to criticize to Dems on a variety of things but at least be honest about it.

PS You're still a bigot until you make an honest attempt to act otherwise.

[cubby]

When Orange Joe said "you", he was referring to Theo, not you.

I am now 100% up to speed.

And a quick shout to @Orange Joe for not showing me the same snarkiness I leveled at him. You sir, are the better man today.

[s_bushido]

Sorry, Richard Spencer has joined the #Resistance, the Alt-Right is Ridin' with Biden.

That awkward moment when you demonstrate that you're as fluent in history and culture and Dipshit D'Souza.



Tell the class once more why anything you say should be taken even the least bit seriously?

[Rasulis]

Sorry, Richard Spencer has joined the #Resistance, the Alt-Right is Ridin' with Biden.

It sounded like he was making a choice between an incompetent far right leader vs. competent leftist leaning leader.

[Theodarzna]

It sounded like he was making a choice between an incompetent far right leader vs. competent leftist leaning leader.

Calling Biden even Leftist leaning is ridiculous.

Remember when Bernard Sanders getting endorsed by Joe Rogan made Sanders a Crypto-Fash or something? Ah, amazing how its excuses for me but never for thee.

[Ivanstone]

It sounded like he was making a choice between an incompetent far right leader vs. competent leftist leaning leader.

Or maybe he's just lashing out because Trump won't return his phone calls anymore.

I'd say he might also be poisoning the well but that would require an amount of self-reflection he probably doesn't have.

[downnola]

Sorry, Richard Spencer has joined the #Resistance, the Alt-Right is Ridin' with Biden.

Yeah, he's really backing those strong Ethno-Nationalist policies like legislating a path to citizenship for "illegal" immigrants and racial equity policies. The support of Richard Spencer really exposes the racists for who they are!

[Felya]

Yeah, he's really backing those strong Ethno-Nationalist policies like legislating a path to citizenship for "illegal" immigrants and racial equity policies. The support of Richard Spencer really exposes the racists for who they are!

“I’m not gas lighting! Here is Richard Spencer doing similar as proof that I am not going that far!”

On a similar note... we have a king of owning the libs:

Gun Enthusiasts Celebrate Man Who Shot Himself in the Balls as Their King
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/y...-as-their-king

On August 11, a member of the group "Loaded Guns Pointed at [B]enis" posted a video of himself pointing a loaded 1911 handgun at his junk. There’s a brief pause before the gun discharges.

The original video of the man shooting himself in the balls and subsequent thread has been deleted, but members of the group captured the video and aftermath and reuploaded it.

“Hey [b]ois, I might have fucked up,” the man who shot himself in the balls wrote above a picture of his naked legs and splattered blood on the carpet of his floor. A towel is stuffed between his legs and a printed out copy of the constitution is crumpled on the edge of the photo.

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You guys constantly make claims, and can never seem to prove them.

I always do... you just pretend they don’t exist...

[Theodarzna]

Yeah, he's really backing those strong Ethno-Nationalist policies like legislating a path to citizenship for "illegal" immigrants and racial equity policies. The support of Richard Spencer really exposes the racists for who they are!

Remember when Tulsi Gabbard being endorsed by David Duke was used as a sign she was evil or seedy? Ahhhh good times.

[Felya]

Remember when Tulsi Gabbard being endorsed by David Duke was used as a sign she was evil or seedy? Ahhhh good times.

No, I actually don’t... Is your post of Richard Spencer gaslighting, revenge or what?

[Blur4stuff]

At this point any remotely sane person should be endorsing Biden. Trump and his administration are by far the most corrupt and incompetent group of people to ever occupy the white house. The list of reasons you would go with Trump instead of Biden is a relatively short one. Including wanting the US to collapse and being thoroughly brainwashed, among a few others. Even people claiming to do it just for issues like abortion are full of shit.

[Felya]

At this point any remotely sane person should be endorsing Biden. Trump and his administration are by far the most corrupt and incompetent group of people to ever occupy the white house. The list of reasons you would go with Trump instead of Biden is a relatively short one. Including wanting the US to collapse and being thoroughly brainwashed, among a few others. Even people claiming to do it just for issues like abortion are full of shit.

I was going to disagree with endorse, but it’s apt...

I still can’t find anyone using Duke endorsement against Gabbard... everything I am finding, includes her denouncing it... I liked her... “does he know I’m Polynesian?”. In fact, Trump didn’t even get shit for it, until he refused to denounce it and then acted like he doesn’t know who Duke is... even though he is on record discussing him...

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It sounded like he was making a choice between an incompetent far right leader vs. competent leftist leaning leader.

Next on the docket, we will find out that voting for Biden is a mistake, because Trump donated money to him... oh... wait... that 10 pages ago.

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@PACOX - can either of you show posts where you were being called Trump supporters for being left of democrats?

He was... when he was calling Biden supporters rapists, over Reade... it lasted like 2 weeks.

[Eviscero]

Sorry, Richard Spencer has joined the #Resistance, the Alt-Right is Ridin' with Biden.

My point is, who cares if these scum bag idiots vote against their interests. For you to use that to justify not supporting Biden...? Are you saying you otherwise would? That's so profoundly stupid.

[PhaelixWW]

Unlike you guys, I'm not voting for the candidate endorsed by Richard Spencer and the Alt-Right.

What percent of the alt-right do you imagine is going to vote for Biden?

What percent of the alt-right do you imagine is going to vote for Trump?

How do you feel about being led around by the nose by an alt-right and contributing to the success of the alt-right majority's candidate?

You're outright saying that the alt-right is going to dictate for whom you vote (by way of dictating for whom you won't vote). That's just fucking embarrassing.

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And the Judge has ordered him to provide proof. He has until next month sometime to do that.

CNN: Major Trump federal voting Pennsylvania lawsuit effectively shut down

President Donald Trump's plan to sue Pennsylvania in federal court to determine how the state conducts mail-in voting has been effectively shut down by a US district court judge.

The judge, Nicholas Ranjan of the US District Court in the Western District of Pennsylvania, decided Sunday that Trump's federal lawsuit against the Secretary of the Commonwealth over the use of drop boxes, poll watching and other voting processes should be put on hold, while state court cases about voting move forward.

It's a setback for Republicans where there are several ongoing cases that could determine how the battleground state's voters cast ballots this election. Ranjan was appointed by Trump, and the federal courts in some instances can be considered friendlier to conservative interests.

"After carefully considering the arguments raised by the parties, the Court finds that the appropriate course is abstention, at least for the time being. In other words, the Court will apply the brakes to this lawsuit, and allow the Pennsylvania state courts to weigh in and interpret the state statutes that undergird Plaintiffs' federal- constitutional claims," Ranjan wrote Sunday.

Pennsylvania is one of only a handful of states where Trump has sued to make mail-in voting tougher making this case a closely watched one.

"The President's fight against the problems of Pennsylvania's radical new vote-by-mail system has been running on parallel tracks in state and federal court for some time," Justin Clark, Trump 2020 deputy campaign manager, said in a statement to CNN.

"The judge's stay today is simply a recognition that the multitude of issues surrounding Pennsylvania's dangerous voting system—including ballot harvesting and double voting—touch both federal and state constitutional issues. The federal court is simply going to reserve its judgment on this in the hopes that the state court will resolve these serious issues and guarantee that every Pennsylvanian has their vote counted—once."

Previously, Ranjan had told Trump and the Republicans they needed to provide evidence of fraud in Pennsylvania voting this year because Democrats had sought it. Progressive groups that received the hundreds of pages of evidence called it insufficient.

"The Court finds that instances of voter fraud are relevant to the claims and defenses in this case," Ranjan wrote earlier this month.
The Pennsylvania Secretary of the Commonwealth has separately tried to end all court cases related to how the state votes quickly, so as not to confuse voters. The state official has agreed to receive mail-in ballots up to three days after Election Day. That request to set voting terms and end the court challenges is pending with Pennsylvania's highest state court.

[Shadowferal]

If the alt-right wants to vote Biden I'm not seeing the problem.
The more votes the better.