Mega-Thread: 2020 United States General Election

[Machismo]

How is that a trap? The same thing happened during the Hannity interview a few weeks back, where he couldn’t say why he is running for office. He couldn’t even answer, after Hannity asked once more, but leading Trump to the obvious answer. Trump still couldn’t do it...

Trump is a moron... him talking in public is a trap.

I meant the people asking the questions were a trap, because they really weren't "undecided." Think of it as when Joe the Plumber went after Obama, and swore he was totes undecided. Nobody thought for a second he was undecided.

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You should look up history of Presidents being criticized by Generals. Why do you think Gen. MacArthur was removed from his command of the US forces in Korea? And a commander in Afghanistan I think ( may have been in Iraq ) was relieved of his command for speaking out against Obama's policies for over there.

You are missing another very important part of why I could never vote for any candidate now who supports abortion on demand. While I understand it is a Constitutional right as per the Supreme Court, I do not support it in the way it is done for any reason at all. I support getting that ruling changed. Just like many support a repeal or amendment of the Second Amendment.

So you see, from my perspective ( and avoiding getting into a forbidden topic on here ) I think the Democrats are partly responsible for millions of unborn childern being killed. Since I believe our life starts at conception. A huge larger number have been killed by their support of such than the pandemic has killed. And I have not been this strong of a pro life until about 10 years ago.

I have no issues at all with Absentee voting by mail, which uses a system to verify the voter is legit. Nor does Trump. In fact, that is how I am going to vote this time.

There will be several reasons Biden will lose besides picking a terrible running mate ( once again, not saying he will lose ). He has made plenty of "deplorable" comments.

So, you hate the United States Constitution.

Good to know.

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Joe Biden has come under fire for plagiarism. This is not the first time he has....

So, almost as bad as when Trump paid people to take his tests for him?

[Thekri]

You should look up history of Presidents being criticized by Generals. Why do you think Gen. MacArthur was removed from his command of the US forces in Korea? And a commander in Afghanistan I think ( may have been in Iraq ) was relieved of his command for speaking out against Obama's policies for over there.

I know ol' Ghosty has me on ignore, but just for everyone else's benefit, this is a foolish and bad faith comparison. There is a huge difference between current Generals speaking out against the President, and former Generals speaking out against the President. Former Generals are just retired old people, they can say whatever they want. They traditionally do not weigh in on politics, and when dozens of them break that traditions with dire warnings about the threat this President poses to this nation, that is a really major warning sign that this President is NOT normal.

As far as the Generals that are still active, they have been disagreeing with Trump in a very different way, buy upholding the law. They keep "contradicting" the President when he says something blatantly illegal, and they have to tell the media we aren't doing that. So when Trump says we are going to kill all the families of ISIS, a General has to say that no, we aren't going to have a policy of murdering children. No, just because Trump keeps pardoning military war criminals does not mean it is OK for Soldiers to rape and murder local civilians. It isn't insubordination, just a President who keeps saying illegal shit, and Generals who have to keep assuring the public we will not be doing that illegal shit.

[Machismo]

Here is another one for you.



Biden has not changed.

So, why are you not outraged that trump paid people to take tests?

[Thekri]

So, you hate the United States Constitution.

Good to know.

Any sane person that has read the thing hates it. Unlike the prevailing opinion, the Constitution was not written by Jesus and delivered by a Bald Eagle to George Washington riding a Grizzly Bear. It is a very old document with a LOT of obsolete bullshit that isn't relevant today. There is a crazy amount of stuff about militias (Which we don't have), authorizations for Privateers, and of course the infamous clause for inflating the political power of slave states.

It is a good foundation, but that doesn't mean you have to like what is actually in it. It is a good document because it evolves with us, not because it was ever perfect.

[Ghostpanther]

This is pretty sad distraction....maybe next time you can find a clip that's actually in black and white.

Lol! I do not think he was old enough for politics when TV was only black and white. Besides, I am sure he would copy someone from back then if he thought it would benefit him and he could get away with it.

Just shows these charges of plagiarism are based on his own past historical habit of doing such.

[Underverse]

Here is another one for you.



Biden has not changed.

Do you think this gives Trump some moral high ground?

Biden would have to literally murder children to get on Trump's level of moral bankruptcy. There's no other way to make up the difference in such a short period of time.

[Thelxi]

Ron Johnson is finally kicking into gear the highly anticipated senate investigation into Biden-Bursima, one of the long-teased GOP October "surprises". It doesn't appear to be going very smoothly though, which is great.

The investigation itself is obviously a joke and if anything has quite the risk of backfiring since it's directly tied to Russian propaganda. With enough crocodile tears and fake outrage though, it could blow up into something substantial that Biden will have to deal with. There is some hope it stays confined to Fox though, since already it's having to deal with some GOP resistance.

[ati87]

Lol! I do not think he was old enough for politics when TV was only black and white. Besides, I am sure he would copy someone from back then if he thought it would benefit him and he could get away with it.

Just shows these charges of plagiarism are based on his own past historical habit of doing such.

Seriously.....you know how sad this shit looks? Plagiarism charges of how long ago? 50 years ago or something probably given his age.
You know the reason why non of Trump's attack has worked on Biden is because it reeks of desperation. Just like this, it's kind of pathetic really.

[Levelfive]

Seriously.....you know how sad this shit looks? Plagiarism charges of how long ago? 50 years ago or something probably given his age.
You know the reason why non of Trump's attack has worked on Biden is because it reeks of desperation. Just like this, it's kind of pathetic really.

The bigger question is, on what grounds does that particular Trump supporter object? It can't be moral grounds, since there is no Trump moral / ethical / legal transgression great enough to withdraw his support. Transactional "values" aren't values at all.

[Machismo]

Any sane person that has read the thing hates it. Unlike the prevailing opinion, the Constitution was not written by Jesus and delivered by a Bald Eagle to George Washington riding a Grizzly Bear. It is a very old document with a LOT of obsolete bullshit that isn't relevant today. There is a crazy amount of stuff about militias (Which we don't have), authorizations for Privateers, and of course the infamous clause for inflating the political power of slave states.

It is a good foundation, but that doesn't mean you have to like what is actually in it. It is a good document because it evolves with us, not because it was ever perfect.

I absolutely agree, it needs work. On that note, I find it hilarious when people call themselves originalists, and get angry at the thought of it being a living document. the United States Constitution was written by a cabal of racists, who were largely acting in their own best interests. Of course, that's what politics tends to be.

I should have simply pointed out his hatred of the 4th and 14th Amendments.

[alexw]

Biden has not changed.

But neither has Trump? And isn't sexual assault an actual crime as opposed to plagarism which isn't?

[Noxx79]

She thinks that because there aren't signs out, it means he is losing. I don't see a single sign in my tiny podunk town, but I know people are stupid enough to vote Trump.

Hell, there are Biden signs outnumbering trump signs here in suburban Kansas 10 to 1, and I have no delusions that Biden is going to win here.

[Milchshake]

Breaking: Cook Political moves AZ's 11 Electoral votes from Toss Up to Lean D.

This week, we are releasing the most recent poll that featured 3,479 interviews with voters in Arizona, Florida, and North Carolina.

• While Trump carried all three states in 2020, he is not leading in any of these states today.
• Trump and Biden are essentially tied in Florida (Trump 42%, Biden's 43%)
• NC (Trump 43%, Biden 45%).
• However, in Arizona, Biden has opened up a more substantial lead (Biden 45%, Trump 40%).
• A Biden win in Arizona would mean that he could afford to lose Michigan or Wisconsin (two of "Blue Wall" consortium) and still eke out an Electoral College win (assuming that he wins all the states Hillary Clinton carried in 2016). Biden could even afford to lose Pennsylvania and still win the Electoral College with a combination of Arizona and Nebraska's 2nd CD.

[Blur4stuff]

I'd like to think another case of sexual assault by Trump would mean something to his voters, but if any of them had problems with sexual assault they wouldn't be supporting him in the first place. It's not a question of whether or not Trump commits sexual assault since he bragged about doing it.

[Thekri]

I'd like to think another case of sexual assault by Trump would mean something to his voters, but if any of them had problems with sexual assault they wouldn't be supporting him in the first place. It's not a question of whether or not Trump commits sexual assault since he bragged about doing it.

Even worse then that. The fact he gets to grope hot women makes them like him more, it makes him more of that "Alpha" they all pretend he is. Somehow, constantly complaining, losing everything, and abject failure over his entire life does not override the fact that he talks like he is an "Alpha".

[Adam Jensen]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-qa...1-conspiracies

Second Q-conspiracy nutter GOP Senate candidate wins their primary. She's all that and a bag of hot cray - antisemitism, flat-earth, 9/11 conspiracies, and shoutouts from a right wing extremist kicked off of YouTube for violating hate speech policies.

The party continues to lose ground to the Trump-aligned conspiracy theorist nutters.

Kinda getting tired of the GOP tolerating the batshit crazies. But I guess this is the era of Trump after all.

But she won't win Delaware.

[Blur4stuff]

Would you live with a guy that promised to murder you simply because another guy living with you claims he won't let it happen?

[omerome]

Kinda getting tired of the GOP tolerating the batshit crazies. But I guess this is the era of Trump after all.

But she won't win Delaware.

That makes me sad that these nutjobs are in my home state. Delaware is so small that it almost feels like I probably know someone who knows her.

But yeah, Coons should still win this.

[downnola]

Okay seriously one damn topic. I'm not going to be spending half the day responding to a wall of text.

Members of the GOP would not go with a Payroll Tax cuts, because every state in the US relies on the Payroll Tax. Adding on top of that, It is up to congress to pass such Tax policy changes, not Trump, and the Democrats in their controlled house won't be passing it either as Democratic states are much more reliant on them. So unless you're afraid of the GOP getting control of the Senate, House, and Executive office in 2020. It isn't going to happen unless the GOP sweep the elections this year like they did in 2016. Which there is nothing to indicate that is even possible.

Payroll tax cuts went into effect this month via Trump's executive order from August.

[omerome]

Payroll tax cuts went into effect this month via Trump's executive order from August.

And the stupid thing is Federal Government Employees and the Military, for example, are required to participate.

I fall into the former of the two. So I have to watch the increase in my paycheck and save it because I didn't ask for it and won't spend it.