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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathranis View Post
    Here's an idea, maybe different districts and different states have electorates with different concerns that call for different campaign strategies.

    Maybe instead of denouncing allies in your own party you should get together and start forming a comprehensive strategy for 2022.
    I agree. 100%. Please view the post I was quoting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flower Milk View Post
    So are you saying you disagree with Jason Johnson when he said AOC is right? Do you think Democrats should be shooting at the progressive wing of the party like Jason Johnson said they shouldn't be doing? Do you disagree with him agreeing with AOC that progressive turnout is what won Biden the election in key states?
    I have a quick question... If exit polling is showing 70% support for progressive issues... what if the vast majority of that comes from NY and California? Do you have a set of statistics, of what support for those issues actually is, in states or districts that do not have overwhelming democrat support?

    Maybe it isn’t that quick... lol
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    I do want to point out that every case of fraud brought fourth have been lost by Trump. Something like 13 court cases. Every one the affidavits show zero evidence of any fraud let alone widespread fraud as the allege. In fact the only case of fraud so far was from a republican voter trying to vote with his dead mothers ballot for Trump. So where are the MAGAts?

  4. #32924
    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Charlie Kirk is wondering why Joe Biden declared victory on this day, a "monday" when they've announced a recount in GA.

    I am wondering why Charlie Kirk's face is so much smaller than his head.

    Like GA even matters at this point. If by some miracle Trump wins GA because of this recount, Biden is STILL PAST 270.
    Those idiots are probably hoping to steal the election one state at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Charlie Kirk is wondering why Joe Biden declared victory on this day, a "monday" when they've announced a recount in GA.

    I am wondering why Charlie Kirk's face is so much smaller than his head.

    Like GA even matters at this point. If by some miracle Trump wins GA because of this recount, Biden is STILL PAST 270.
    Does that mean that they're done counting right? If that's so, good luck flipping 14k+ votes, Dotardito.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Charlie Kirk is wondering why Joe Biden declared victory on this day, a "monday" when they've announced a recount in GA.

    I am wondering why Charlie Kirk's face is so much smaller than his head.

    Like GA even matters at this point. If by some miracle Trump wins GA because of this recount, Biden is STILL PAST 270.
    If I'm understanding correctly, the "lid" is just that the campaign will have no more news/announcements or anything for media to cover for the day.

    He's trying to make it seem like they're dodging media by implying there's something underhanded going on in GA.

    Though I'm not sure what they'd have to say other than, "Every vote matters, and people should be confident that votes were counted accurately. We look forward to the hand-recount of the votes in GA debunking any misinformation about voter fraud and confirming President-Elect Biden's victory in the state."

    Like, fielding questions is kinda pointless until the recount gets underway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBeef View Post
    I do want to point out that every case of fraud brought fourth have been lost by Trump. Something like 13 court cases. Every one the affidavits show zero evidence of any fraud let alone widespread fraud as the allege. In fact the only case of fraud so far was from a republican voter trying to vote with his dead mothers ballot for Trump. So where are the MAGAts?
    And it's not just zero evidence. It's laughable incompetence.

    There were misfilings that would get any paralegal fired. There were charges of hearsay any high school student would know isn't acceptable in court. And as others pointed out in this thread, and in a video I posted, one judge was even peeved enough to ask "what's your problem?"

    They are flailing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    It might be automatic. The race is close.
    AFAIK, it is, if either candidate does not clear the minimum 0.5% difference for a recount. Either way, if this does mean that there are no more votes, just give Georgia to Biden, this shit is pretty much done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBeef View Post
    I do want to point out that every case of fraud brought fourth have been lost by Trump. Something like 13 court cases. Every one the affidavits show zero evidence of any fraud let alone widespread fraud as the allege.
    Not only that but tRump's "sharp" legal minds were forced to admit they have no evidence to base their claims on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    I have a quick question... If exit polling is showing 70% support for progressive issues... what if the vast majority of that comes from NY and California? Do you have a set of statistics, of what support for those issues actually is, in states or districts that do not have overwhelming democrat support?

    Maybe it isn’t that quick... lol
    That's the thing... Support for all of this changes dramatically on how the question is asked. M4A for example tanks from 70% support to 38% support when you introduce removal of private insurance. Unfortunately, this is the M4A plan that was introduced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molis View Post
    It is the final cash out.
    I mean if you're going to make a statement like that at least provide the appropriate accompaniment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    Why the fuck do people give in to the whims of that orange turd? Was there evidence of massive voter fraud? No? Then fuck him.
    I believe the results fell within the margin for an automatic recount but don't quote me on that. In the other states he'd have to pay for them himself, so we'll see how that goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    If I'm understanding correctly, the "lid" is just that the campaign will have no more news/announcements or anything for media to cover for the day.
    I thought it was "lid" as in "put a lid on it, it's done."

    Still, Charlie Kirk's an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    I mean if you're going to make a statement like that at least provide the appropriate accompaniment.

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    I believe the results fell within the margin for an automatic recount but don't quote me on that. In the other states he'd have to pay for them himself, so we'll see how that goes.
    In GA the losing campaign can request a recount if the vote is under .5%.

  14. #32934
    Quote Originally Posted by kaelleria View Post
    In GA the losing campaign can request a recount if the vote is under .5%.
    Thank you. I would have looked it up myself but 1) I'm exhausted from going back to work this week and therefore too lazy and 2) I don't think it really matters one way or the other--the outcome will be the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    I have a quick question... If exit polling is showing 70% support for progressive issues... what if the vast majority of that comes from NY and California? Do you have a set of statistics, of what support for those issues actually is, in states or districts that do not have overwhelming democrat support?

    Maybe it isn’t that quick... lol
    The breakdown for Medicare for All specifically is 80% of Democrats, 60% of Independents, and 40% of Republicans, so which state it comes from doesn't really matter.

    Also progressive legislation like $15 minimum wage, legalized weed, etc won in red states where Trump won. The Democrats should at least get behind legalized weed if it won in solid red states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathranis View Post
    Here's an idea, maybe different districts and different states have electorates with different concerns that call for different campaign strategies.

    Maybe instead of denouncing allies in your own party you should get together and start forming a comprehensive strategy for 2022.
    Fucking seriously. Progressives are trying to form a strategy and yelling from the rooftops at moderates to come to the table and discuss that strategy with them instead of shitting on them. There are even moderate Democrats telling other moderate Democrats to stop attacking progressives and to sit down and listen to their progressive base. Wow, what a concept.
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  16. #32936
    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    sad part is GA does not even matter at this point
    As far as the presidential run, no, but I think confirming a Biden win there might help energize voters further for the Senate runoffs.

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    If M4A and GND are so universally popular.... Why did the guy that Bernie backed for Vermont Governor get killed at the polls?



    This is why Bernie cant be Secretary of Labor. If he steps down for a nomination, his replacement will be voting against his appointment.

    Why was M4A such a loser in Bernie's front porch?

    Also, why dont all these cosplay socialists move to a small state and stage a socialist takeover?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    sad part is GA does not even matter at this point
    It does if they manage to throw out enough votes to put the senate race at over 50%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    It does if they manage to throw out enough votes to put the senate race at over 50%.
    The recount is only focused on the presidential election. They're not doing recounts for the other races. The Senate runoffs will happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    The recount is only focused on the presidential election. They're not doing recounts for the other races. The Senate runoffs will happen.
    Ah ok, I thought they were doing a general recount

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