Datamined race intros shows Blizz set on whitewashing Horde.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

These all make sense in the context of post slyv shit. Take your sjw bullshit somewhere else.

you don't get these post slyv though you get them before doing bfa content if your a new player and they make no sense with that kind of questing experience.

[Highelf]

Race intro strings from https://www.wowhead.com/news=312240/...le-and-strings


Forsaken: "As one of the undead Forsaken, you have been reanimated by dark magic. Though shunned by the living, you tirelessly strive to protect them."

Belves: Your people, the blood elves, have persevered through tragedy and betrayal. You toil to ensure Azeroth never endures such suffering again.

Darkspear: Renouncing the savagery of the other tribes, you and your fellow Darkspear trolls protect Azeroth with cunning ferocity.

Horde faction text in character creator?: You are a soldier of the mighty Horde, a diverse band of races from across Azeroth who fight for freedom and honor.

Orcs: Though the orcs came to Azeroth as conquerors, your kind has shed the bloodthirsty ways of old and now stand in defense of your new home.


Is Blizz really trying to have players forget what happened throughout the past expansions? Especially when the very core of the Forsaken is making new Forsaken out of the living?

HONOR...thanks, I haven't had a laugh like that in a long time.

[Neklord]

They're only trying to introduce the race to new players, there's no need to tell them about Garrosh or Arthas because those stories are over and it'll feel disconnected from what they're going to experience.

[Biomega]

even if you want to compare the races at there worse for the alliance races you need to go back to before wow while the horde were at there worse just an expan ago in bfa. one is obviously worse then the other.

Ah yes, the ol' "no you don't get it it doesn't matter that we're jerks because you're WORSE jerks!". And of course only THAT should be mentioned, and omitting the other side is totally fine.

Sounds legit.

[Rend Blackhand]

Darkspear: Renouncing the savagery of the other tribes, you and your fellow Darkspear trolls protect Azeroth with cunning ferocity.

This is why I've always hated the Darkspear. What's the point of playing a Troll to just not be a Troll? Fucking blue Tauren all about peaceful living and stuff.

The vicious trolls that populate the numerous jungle isles of the South Seas, are renowned for their cruelty and dark mysticism. Barbarous and superstitious, they carry a seething hatred for all other races. Long since exiled from their ancestral homeland in Stranglethorn Vale, the Darkspear tribe was nearly destroyed by rampaging murlocs. Rescued by the young Warchief Thrall and his orcish warriors, the Darkspear tribe swore an allegiance to the Horde. Led by the cunning Shadow Hunter, Vol'jin, the Darkspears now make their home in Durotar along with their orcish allies. As one of the only surviving Darkspears, it falls to you to reclaim the glory of your tribe.

This is the intro from Vanilla-Wrath and I find it to be much more fitting for the Trolls. They should be about dark voodoo rituals and much more violent like the Trolls literally everywhere else.

[Hellspawn]

So as a new player you read that text, create an UD character. Thinking of yourself as protector of the living. Then go through the nice light hearted new starting zone. Then your get confronted with a war were your racial leader just commited genocide and burned down the home of an civilization...

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Ah yes, the ol' "no you don't get it it doesn't matter that we're jerks because you're WORSE jerks!". And of course only THAT should be mentioned, and omitting the other side is totally fine.

Sounds legit.

more so that something that happened a year ago with a lot of the people who took part are still leading the horde is alot more relevant then something that happend 20 years ago and every one involved is long dead.

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So as a new player you read that text, create an UD character. Thinking of yourself as protector of the living. Then go through the nice light hearted new starting zone. Then your get confronted with a war were your racial leader just commited genocide and burned down the home of an civilization...

you just have to remember that the alliance did something bad to once upon a time and that makes it all ok.

[Combatbutler]

So as a new player you read that text, create an UD character. Thinking of yourself as protector of the living. Then go through the nice light hearted new starting zone. Then your get confronted with a war were your racial leader just commited genocide and burned down the home of an civilization...

And forsaken npcs constantly tell you to beware the living.

[Kelimbror]

And forsaken npcs constantly tell you to beware the living.

Beware them, yes! But protect. Also protect. Always murde...protect.

Lol to someone trying to compare 'some alliance people' doing bad things to the entire faction of the Horde, headed up by their leaders have committed multiple acts of genocide while the majority of their faction cheered them on for it. When was the last time you saw Varian or Anduin take the entire forces of the Alliance to invade a new land, rape their resources, then murder anyone who tries to stop them? Never.

Every expansion is the retarded AF Alliance white knighting after the evil as shit Horde who just left on their magical boats of war to fuck some new place up.

[Saltysquidoon]

I can believe they're attempting to flanderise the forsaken of all the races, I assume this means new players are never supposed to quest in forsaken zones or interact with forsaken npcs.

Also; What is their obsession with making the PC blood elves completely innocent and pretending all the negative stuff (like feeding on fel energy) was entirely Kael's band. Even the WCII high elves were bigger dicks than the current lot.

[Maxilian]

I assume the new Forsaken intro is based around the Forsakens without Sylvanas, i mean... Sylvanas does point out that its a pity that the Forsaken have sided with the living.

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The Darkspear... well, it does make sense, there's even a cinematic where some other troll tries to re-unite the clans, included the Darkspear, and Vol'jin decides against it.

[Beloren]

That is NOT what whitewashing means in modern times.

You mean the super woke world, where sensitivity is at an all time high. So it now has to do with literally making it like white people.


The original meaning still counts. And in this instance, I'm not sure it's a bad thing. No one wants the horde to be villains, nand the description just shows that this is the developers intent. The horde are not villains, though major villains have come from the horde, the horde has risen up to put an end to any tyrant abusing his or her power. For da HORDE !

[raz98]

Yeah that's fine. Let players learn the story by playing the game. We dont have time to list the atrocities of every race on their intro screen.

[Aucald]

The Darkspear... well, it does make sense, there's even a cinematic where some other troll tries to re-unite the clans, included the Darkspear, and Vol'jin decides against it.

That was Zul, when ZA and ZG were introduced for Cata. Given what we know of Zul now it's probably for the best that Vol'jin opted not to go along with his plans.

[Shiza]

Kind of like how Blizzard glosses over all the terrible things the Alliance has done so....meh.

Killing members of an illegal criminal organization who attack legitimate authorities as well as the organizations paramilitary

Destroying a camp which is used to train new Horde recruits against:

A Genocide as well as permanently altering and crippling magical warfare against Draenei

An Attempted Genocide against Stormwind which ended up in the displacement of its surviving population.

An attempted genocide against every other nation on the eastern Kingdoms except the Gurubashi, the Amani and Alterac

Slaughtering their way through Lordaeron and steal parts of its naval fleet.

A Genocide against the Nation of Theramore

An attempt for basically everything the old horde did alternative

A Genocide against the Night elves

Brennedan.

[deenman]

Kind of like how Blizzard glosses over all the terrible things the Alliance has done so....meh.

its cute that you think its even close,like in the same multiverse to compare the 2

[Friendlyimmolation]

They are all pretty fucking terrible but holy christ the Forsaken one.

[Shiza]

Humans: Your people have a history of throwing outsiders in concentration camps and making them fight each other for sport. Your leaders have attempted genocide, and repeatedly ignored warnings about impending disaster.

OH WAIT it doesn't actually say that, does it.

Thats the Forsaken. Like, its the Forsaken you are refering to. They are citizens of the nation of Lordaeron which did everything you mention here. Playable humans are either from Stormwind or Kul Tiras. They have nothing to do with anything Lordaeron did because, again, Lordaeron transformed into the nation of undercity and its inhabitants are the Horde-Alligned Forsaken at this point. Like, their entire point is that they are the rightful inhabitants of Lordaeron and that this is way they have the legitimate claim over the kingdom. Which means, that all responsibilities also transfer to them. That is how nations work. Look at the Federal Republic of Germany. It successfully claims inheritance of previous german states, but is therefore also responsible for their actions and debts, to the point where it paid of WW1 debts as well as those of WW2 and is liable for crimes of the German Empire during its colonial period.

[Rend Blackhand]

Killing members of an illegal criminal organization who attack legitimate authorities as well as the organizations paramilitary

Destroying a camp which is used to train new Horde recruits against:

A Genocide as well as permanently altering and crippling magical warfare against Draenei

An Attempted Genocide against Stormwind which ended up in the displacement of its surviving population.

An attempted genocide against every other nation on the eastern Kingdoms except the Gurubashi, the Amani and Alterac

Slaughtering their way through Lordaeron and steal parts of its naval fleet.

A Genocide against the Nation of Theramore

An attempt for basically everything the old horde did alternative

A Genocide against the Night elves

Brennedan.

You know when you keep saying something is genocide when it isn't, it loses meaning.

[Newname1234567890]

Did you miss the end of Bfa?

"The where is our home" line?

These new intros are what that cinematic was getting out