What are you even talking about? They didn't do anything to Argus or Illidan. Argus literally just disappears. Go watch the cinematic again, nobody puts anything "inside Illidan". Him claiming that the Pantheon used the last of Argus' power is nonsense put up on wowpedia with zero evidence, just like your claim of Illidan getting his essence.
Azeroth isn't a born Titan, especially not in the sense of Argus, Aggrammar, Sargeras, ect. You can't kill Titans, we got confirmation of this last expansion when the souls of the Titans were captured and imprisoned and then once we freed them they regenerated back their bodies.
Do you know any of the lore? Or are you just talking out your ass?
Asking someone if they know any lore is a big ask for someone about to be dunked on.
So we know that titans can die. What about the Pantheon titans, a confused forum goer might cry: they weren't killed! Worry not friends, for I too have a quote for this:Originally Posted by Chronicle: Vol. 1 (Page 24)
So not only can nascent titans die, but we know the Pantheon would have been killed by Sargeras if Norgannon had not saved them. Amazing, so we have now established that titans can indeed die.Originally Posted by Chronicle: Vol. 1 (Page 50)
Though now it is my unfortunate duty, Zyky. I must ask you two questions:
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Don't worry, you're right. Chronicle is pretty explicit that titans can die.
Sylvanas didn't even win the popular vote, she was elected by an indirect election of representatives. #NotMyWarchief
I'm always on the fence about this.
Arthas was corrupted by Nerzhul and the Burning Legion, his actions aren't entirely his own fault. Yeah, he was filled with vengeance, and his efforts to purge Strat were pretty severe, but he believed they were neccessary measures to save the world from the plague and he might have needed to go even farther to really prevent everything that went down.
Also, Deathwing was once a heroic protector, if a bit materialistic. His domain over the earth and all the deep places makes him susceptible to materialistic goals and subjected him to the whisperings of the Old Gods, again, corrupting an otherwise reasonably heroic character and turning him into a supervillain.
I don't know why Arthas, who was mind controlled by a trap laid for him by the Dreadlords, and Deathwing, who was mind controlled by the Old Gods, are somehow damned to the Maw, where Kael'thas, who by all accounts WILLINGLY betrayed like 4 different factions, including his own people, only has to go see the Venthyr to have the wickedness punished out of him.
Seems to me the two guys who were converted to evil under great duress are better candidates for 'redemption through suffering' than the guy who repeatedly fucked over the people trying to help him.
If I had to guess perhaps Arthas's crimes are so massive that an automatic Maw sentence and even during Lich Kingdom he still did terrible things and such. You also gotta wonder how much does the Arbiter know about the events surrounding Arthas, is she aware of the Legion that basically used the Scourge and the LK to invade Azeroth.
As for Deathwing, I like to think if to make up for some of the missteps in Cata he'd end up in Revendrath(If Dragons go to the Shadowlands but I assume they do) if only because being driven insane by whispers and the Old Gods seems pretty much not the worst thing in the world. I'd argue he could get some sympathy but depending on Neltharion's own feelings on the matter(Like maybe he resents the Titans/Titan Keepers for giving him powers that lead to his downfall instead of admitting he was consumed by the Void).
Interesting stuff to think about.
I always considered Argus the titan version of a premature baby.Wrong. Argus was never born either. At best, Sargeras performed the equivalent of a c-section, at worst, he was draining a fetus.
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if there are some old bosses we killed there in shadowlands they should make some of them world bosses to fight them again
I'm guessing it's the same thing as with elemental lords. If you kill it on Azeroth, it's banished back to its home plane. If you kill it on its home plane, it's truly dead, such as with Ragnaros. This is pure speculation, but it may be that the essence of the demon has nowhere to retreat to when killed there (it's already in the Twisting Nether, so it doesn't go anywhere), so the attack that kills the body also destroys the essence. Essentially, when the body dies outside the nether, the demon's "soul" is whisked away to the Nether the moment before the body expires, but when the body is in the Twisting Nether, the soul stays with the body since it's already in the Nether, and it thus dies with the body. *shrug*
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but in this sh8t called lore we have demons who died in twisting neither yet still alive like a lot from TBC era like sorcessar or whatever his name is so dying in twisting neither means u are dead but not really because f8ck lore, after all it is from a creature pov who was killed since 25k years before dark portal with their souls trapped by a loli rapist wanna be and were only released after legion, so how the f8ck can they know anything about lore when they were trapped during 99% of it?
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they may said that, won't surprise me
even if they clearly stated that all nelfs who died in the burning tree went straight to the maw to fuel it, while both varian and garrosh died year(s) before it
but since when blizz give a f8ck about lore? not since Metzen quit at least
The beginning of wisdom is the statement 'I do not know.' The person who cannot make that statement is one who will never learn anything. And I have prided myself on my ability to learn
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http://youtu.be/x3ejO7Nssj8 7:20+ "Alliance remaining super power", clearly blizz favor horde too much, that they made alliance the super power
You can still care and make mistakes and obviously they do care.but since when blizz give a f8ck about lore? not since Metzen quit at least
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After fusing with Ner'zhul and before his re-awakening at the start of WotLK Arthus chose to becomes evil if you read the LK novel. He defeats both Ner'zhul who tries to control him and his humanity that was holding him back.
Yes he was manipulated but in the end he chose to be evil.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
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