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  1. #61
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    we want to ensure that players who haven’t felt the need to accumulate them don’t feel disadvantaged
    well, too late. My alt has 21k echoes and my main can't get any. If only I had them on my main I could buy 3 corruptions immediately.

  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    So they people that already have a stockpile aren't vastly ahead of people with none. They said so in the blog. If a person saved up 1000 echos before it will be easy for a newer player to catch up to them now since the rewards are so high.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nzx View Post
    They literally explained why they did this in the post. If they didn't, people who didn't hoard echoes would be massively disadvantaged compared to people who did. If they increase everything by 5x (like they often do with Residuum) it means that they can use the same currency without removing the already collected echoes.
    Quote Originally Posted by deenman View Post
    uhm,maybe read it all?its so people who didnt bother to get them wont be at a huge disatvantage to people who did get a bunch
    Quote Originally Posted by Kumorii View Post
    They explained it in the post...
    No he still has a valid point, they haven't explained why they increased the cost of Essences in addition to echoes gained.

    Echoes of Ny’alotha will be much more abundant than before. As we expand the usefulness of Echoes of Ny’alotha, we want to ensure that players who haven’t felt the need to accumulate them don’t feel disadvantaged, so we will be increasing both the droprates of Echoes and their costs by a factor of 5.
    So firstly the new Corruption enchants and additional vessel source haven't got a set price yet so they will be as pricey as Blizzard decides they want them to be and people who may or may not have been stockpiling will already have an advantage over those who haven't been gathering them on alts or have been unable to get them on mains as they didn't drop as long as they're the only one with all your rank 3 essences.
    As such increasing the echo drop rate by a factor of 5 helps players who have yet to start getting them or haven't been getting them on alts catch up faster towards the others who may already be or close to buying corruption enchants.
    Secondly the only existing cost atm for echoes is for the essences and the system up till now has mainly been for alts to get their higher level essences faster and generally unlocked easier than you did on your main. By increasing the cost by a factor of 5 they're not benefiting anyone, people who have already farmed the echoes and reached their current cost will no longer be able to purchase them in the new system and have to farm even more and players who are just starting on alts will still have to farm even more than that.

    Honestly there shouldn't be a problem with keeping the essences at the same price as they are now, it would be more beneficial for the people who have already gathered echoes as well as people who are just starting. Essences will just be unlocked faster and honestly who cares about that at this point in the expansion?
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  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Accendor View Post
    Fuck you Blizzard, fuck you so much. If you introduce pay to win to the game fucking stand with it and don't drop it after people spend their money on it. Fucking predatory shenanigans going on here. Hopefully the crazy Americans will deck you with lawsuits about this.
    What the hell are you going on about?

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Raone View Post
    "The inventory of available Preserved Contaminants will change twice each week, mirroring the Assault cadence, and will cycle through all available Corruption effects at various levels of potency."

    This sentence most will overlook. What corruption she is selling will be random (or on a preset rotation), and which level will be random (or on a preset rotation). Everything sounded great till they needed layer of dumb, 1 step forward 2 steps back. If I have enough to buy TD3 why do I have to wait 4 weeks to get it, why? because reasons?
    They always do, pound one nail another jumps up.

  5. #65
    - Makes essences cost more for no good reason, requiring even more work put in on alts
    - The corruptions available are still RNG because they aren't constantly available
    - People who have had steady mains/pure DPS mains are way behind others because they don't have any accrued Echoes yet

    Wonderful system they're setting up here. They can't make anything simple and good, can they?

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by scvd View Post
    Most of the game is a "tough shit" scenario, why should this be different.
    no,this is in line with the m+ mats for buying azerite they do every season

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Puri View Post
    It required doing emissaries when they awarded gold, doing a m15+ every week, 5/4/3 mask visions (plus cloak leveling) and all assaults because that's all I did with them. So as you said even when farming them now it would almost be a full lockout headstart which especially mains -which did even more- are missing.
    And don't get me wrong, the mistake does not happen now, but when they decided that the currency would out of whatever reason not be awarded when - at that time - you could not buy anything with it.
    On multiple characters. That's not exactly little play. Especially the 3 visions.

    Also, this "mistake" likely stems from the fact that they didn't originally plan to use Echoes for anything else.

  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by keymil View Post
    Not disagreeing with you in that specific case, but-snip-
    because, it creates the need to farm up preemptively then wait or rush to meet a dead-line when it does appear.
    both of these are bad for player agency and their determination of progression.

  9. #69
    This all too late. Far too late.

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jasper Kazai View Post
    - Makes essences cost more for no good reason, requiring even more work put in on alts
    I guess you missed the part where rate of gaining echoes increases by the exact same amount? They will still require the exact same amount of work to obtain.

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    More grind eh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accendor View Post
    Fuck you Blizzard, fuck you so much. If you introduce pay to win to the game fucking stand with it and don't drop it after people spend their money on it. Fucking predatory shenanigans going on here. Hopefully the crazy Americans will deck you with lawsuits about this.
    Lmao, what? Where are your marbles? lolol

  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by scvd View Post
    Missed a point about the purchasable corruption

    The only people that really benefit from this are raiders

    Mythic chest is 100% corruption, can't be cleansed and replaced.
    Mask runs 100% corruption, can't be cleansed and replaced.

    Sure, you could put it on some PvP gear or normal gear from mythics, but you'll always have to sacrifice ilvl, right?
    You really will complain about anything, huh? People already drop ~30-40ilvl for their strongest corruptions. This is no different except now you'll, at worst, have to drop 10 ilvl and you can choose your BiS corruptions.

  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Video Games View Post
    Man, it's like people who weren't able to get echoes are now behind people who didnt care to buy off spec essences and alts.
    It's like now, you have to hope an item DOESNT corrupt because you can't buy one for a cleansed piece.

    Think next time.
    A perfect example of what I said. Some folks, like you, are going to cry no matter how much you've given. Blizzard could've made these free, and you still would've bitched and moaned about how you can't do this or that. They stated they're working on the issues, but here you are, to fucking cry about it. And to think, they didn't have to do this AT ALL. Yet they are, and yet you're still complaining. Pathetic.

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Darknessvamp View Post
    No he still has a valid point, they haven't explained why they increased the cost of Essences in addition to echoes gained.
    Because the point of this change isn't making Essences easier to obtain.

    they will be as pricey as Blizzard decides they want them to be
    You don't say. Sounds like every single item ever sold by a vendor. Also not sure where you get the idea of them not having a set price from. The list of available corruptions will change, not the prices.

  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Queen of Hamsters View Post
    Oh well, this makes me a bit happier, and I can restore some corrupted items that I removed.
    You literally can't.

    Due to a technical limitation, items that have been cleansed cannot be re-corrupted. We are looking into whether it will be possible to fix this, but we don’t want to hold up the whole system in the meantime.

  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Kralljin View Post
    Imagine an 8.3 where these things would have been available right off the bat.
    Content would've been clear week 1 because everyone would've had all the Infinite Stars and Twilight Devs in the world. Still woulda been a shit system, just in another way.

    I'd much prefer the non-vendor system in a world where things weren't so hilariously and horribly unbalanced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agentsi View Post
    A perfect example of what I said. Some folks, like you, are going to cry no matter how much you've given. Blizzard could've made these free, and you still would've bitched and moaned about how you can't do this or that. They stated they're working on the issues, but here you are, to fucking cry about it. And to think, they didn't have to do this AT ALL. Yet they are, and yet you're still complaining. Pathetic.
    Ah, so you have no critical thinking skills why this isnt implemented right. Carry on being retarded then.

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    Some people are already advantaged.

    Many of my guildies have 12k-15k echoes because they never bought their last useless essence, and, there is me, who bought my last essence the very first week, I only have 12 echoes... ^^

  20. #80
    Im really tired so i cant weed out the info right, but do i need a corrupted item to get the corruption i want on it or can i go with any item and just add it onto it?

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