1. #23981
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post

    Wild that after years of cops getting outed for abuse because of suspects including killing them because of people nearby recording on their phones, that they still act this brazenly in front of their colleagues (huge problem as it indicates that there is no internal accountability) and in front of the general populace as if folks aren't more vigilant for this kind of bullshit.
    Why is it wild? Nothing ever comes of shit like this, so why should they be concerned about how their actions are viewed by the public?

  2. #23982
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...nce-accusation

    Los Angeles jail guards have frequently punched incarcerated people in the head and subjected them to a “humiliating” group strip-search where they were forced to wait undressed for hours, according to a new report from court-appointed monitors documenting a range of abuses.

    The Los Angeles sheriff’s department (LASD), which oversees the largest local jail system in the country, appears to be routinely violating use-of-force policies, with supervisors failing to hold guards accountable and declining to provide information to the monitors tasked with reviewing the treatment of incarcerated people.

    The report, filed in federal court on Thursday, adds to a long string of scandals for the department. The monitors – first put in place in 2014 to settle a case involving beatings – suggested that some problems in the jails appeared to be getting worse after they visited the facilities in December 2021.

    The monitors, Robert Houston, a former corrections official, and Jeffrey Schwartz, a consultant, alleged that the use of “head shots”, meaning punches to the head, had been “relatively unchanged in the last two years or more, and may be increasing”. They also wrote that deputies who used force in violation of policy were at times sent to “remedial training” but that “actual discipline is seldom imposed”. And supervisors who failed to document violations were also “not held accountable” .

    The authors cited one incident in which a deputy approached a resident who had “walked away from him” while he was being escorted. “With no hesitation, Deputy Y grabbed [his] chest and slammed him into the wall. Deputy Y punched [him] 5‐9 times in the head, and Deputy Z punched [him] 6‐8 times in the head as they took [him] to the floor because they ‘feared’ that the Inmate might become assaultive”.
    Eyo, ACAB is still very applicable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...nce-accusation

    Eyo, ACAB is still very applicable.
    Meanwhile, in New York...

    The New York Police Department admitted it killed a homeless man on Thursday night when one of its vans raced to try and beat a light on a Brooklyn street, according to the New York Daily News. A witness said the man was standing in his usual spot when the van barreled down the street, hitting him. “The brother was in the middle of the street. He stood there every day, trying to get a few dollars to eat,” witness Dequan Bass said. “He begged for change and quarters before the light would change from different cars.” Once the van hit the man, it apparently dragged him 35 feet down the street before stopping. An officer apparently tried to revive him unsuccessfully. The unidentified man was taken to the hospital, but he couldn’t be revived. Police said they were investigating the crash.
    Publicly funded clowns with guns.
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  4. #23984
    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Meanwhile, in New York...



    Publicly funded clowns with guns.
    I wonder if this will go under qualified immunity and the officer was just doing his job and so we can't prosecute him for literally killing a man with his gross negligence.

    I assume the police unions are 100% backing him and claiming that the man jumped in front of the car and the officer feared for his life, with his only course of action being to run the man over and drag his body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I wonder if this will go under qualified immunity and the officer was just doing his job and so we can't prosecute him for literally killing a man with his gross negligence.

    I assume the police unions are 100% backing him and claiming that the man jumped in front of the car and the officer feared for his life, with his only course of action being to run the man over and drag his body.
    Wouldn't surprise me since we had right wingers on this forum arguing exactly that line of defense when Heather Heyer was murdered.

    Also loving the passive language in this tweet:

    The NYPD admitted it killed a homeless man on Thursday night when one of its vans raced to try and beat a light on a Brooklyn street, according to the New York Daily News.
    I hope the van is in police custody. /s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Also loving the passive language in this tweet:



    I hope the van is in police custody. /s
    Was the robot dog driving it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Was the robot dog driving it?
    Nah, unlike regular police officers who injure or murder people the the robot dog actually got fired following public outcry.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
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  8. #23988
    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Nah, unlike regular police officers who injure or murder people the the robot dog actually got fired following public outcry.
    Man, when the robo-unions get started we're all fucked. Wonder if the FOP will start recruiting from the robot-ranks.

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  10. #23990
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...nce-accusation



    Eyo, ACAB is still very applicable.
    That's some gitmo Shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Meanwhile, in New York...

    Police said they were investigating the crash.
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  11. #23991
    https://www.insider.com/los-angeles-...eporter-2022-4

    The Los Angeles County Sheriff announced an investigation into a Los Angeles Times reporter after she wrote a story on the department's alleged cover-up of a video documenting the use of force against a handcuffed inmate.

    In late March, LA Times reporter Alene Tchekmedyian wrote about the video in which a deputy was seen kneeling on an inmate's head for three minutes after he punched the deputy in the face, also citing internal records.

    The incident occurred in March 2021, and Sheriff Alex Villanueva, who is seeking reelection for a second term, maintained that he was unaware of it until October.

    The department did not pursue charges against the inmate "given its nature and its similarities to widely publicized George Floyd use of force," commander Allen Castellano said in a memo obtained by the outlet.

    The investigation by Villanueva is looking at the manner in which the video was obtained by Tchekmedyian; the county sheriff claims the video was "stolen property."

    During a press conference Tuesday, Villanueva said the investigation will look into charges of conspiracy, burglary, and unauthorized use of a database against Tchekmedyian, retired LASD Commander Eli Vera, and sheriff's Inspector General Max Huntsman.

    "This is stolen property that was removed illegally from people who had some intent — criminal intent — and it'll be subject to investigation," Villanueva added.
    LA cops are big mad that their abusive behavior on an inmate and their subsequent attempts to cover up a video showing them abusing said inmate, so they're investigating the reporter for "criminal intent" like a bunch of microdicked losers.

    ACAB continues to largely ring true, especially down in LA with those literal criminal gangs operating in uniform.

  12. #23992
    The Minneapolis Police Department used covert or fake social media accounts to target Black individuals and groups, an investigation found.

    And it did so despite having no clear public safety rationale. https://t.co/LVrt4Qz9vZ
    https://twitter.com/AP/status/151984...jQrb_0yhw&s=19

    Basically doing illegal surveillance on people not even under investigation.

    Wait there's more.

    KARE 11 Investigates: New data shows every no-knock warrant executed by Minneapolis police from Sept. through January only targeted people of color – none involved whites. https://t.co/yR8YZ5E8U4
    https://twitter.com/kare11/status/15...QFfMvE-yA&s=19

    Now small data of not even six months and the article didn't say how many.
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  13. #23993
    https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local...-plea/2702666/

    Have we talked about Patrick Rose from Boston?

    A former head of Boston's police union facing a total of 33 charges in connection with the rape and abuse of six children over various periods of time beginning in the 1990s pleaded guilty Monday.

    Patrick Rose had previously pleaded not guilty and maintained his innocence, but changed his plea during an appearance in Suffolk Superior Court. He pleaded guilty to 21 counts of child rape and sexual assault over a 27-year period and was sentenced to 10 to 13 years in prison, plus 10 years probation following his release.
    That's uh...

    Rose, 67, a former Boston police officer and president of the Boston Police Patrolmen's Association, was arrested on child sex charges in August of 2020 stemming from allegations that he sexually assaulted a young relative starting when she was 7.

    The victim, now a teenager, told police the assaults continued for five years, until she turned 12. Rose allegedly touched her inappropriately and asked her to perform sexual acts on him in his West Roxbury home.

    Rose was later charged with the rape and abuse of five other children. Prosecutors said most of the charges date back to the 1990s, but at least one was within the last two years.
    Worth noting that the union, now pretending to be horrified by his actions, spent the past few decades aggressively defending him.

    Also worth noting that despite, you know, 21 counts of child rape and sexual assault that he's getting what is essentially a slap on the wrist. If anything, the bigger "risk" to him is what inmates may do to him in prison. Not because he's a cop, but because inmates generally have a fairly dismal view of criminals that hurt or molest or rape children.

    #ACAB remains relevant

  14. #23994
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local...-plea/2702666/

    Have we talked about Patrick Rose from Boston?



    That's uh...

    Worth noting that the union, now pretending to be horrified by his actions, spent the past few decades aggressively defending him.

    Also worth noting that despite, you know, 21 counts of child rape and sexual assault that he's getting what is essentially a slap on the wrist. If anything, the bigger "risk" to him is what inmates may do to him in prison. Not because he's a cop, but because inmates generally have a fairly dismal view of criminals that hurt or molest or rape children.

    #ACAB remains relevant
    That's works out to ~6 months for each charge.

    Well, I'm sure we'll be very shortly hearing from the Republicans about how disgusting it is that a child rapist would get such a light sentence. Any minute now.
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  15. #23995
    Also, it seems there is an LAPD Sheriff that should be arrested for an illegal investigation.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/s...gation-coverup

    LA Times released a video of a coverup of a cop kneeling on the neck of a handcuffed inmate at the county jail there.

    Literally everything that the reporter has released that she has gotten ahold of, would be protected by whistleblower laws. This investigation by the sheriff is 100% a violation of the journalists 1st amendment rights. The sheriff should be fired and sued.

  16. #23996
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    LA cops are big mad that their abusive behavior on an inmate and their subsequent attempts to cover up a video showing them abusing said inmate, so they're investigating the reporter for "criminal intent" like a bunch of microdicked losers.
    They've already issued a non-apology apology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    Whistleblowing should be federally protected. No matter which whistle is being blown or against whom. If an officer got ahold of the tape and leaked it, they should be immune from negative impacts from the department, and any such levied against them without real good cause for the rest of their careers should be the kind of thing a lawyer sees as a slam-dunk "you're never gonna have to work again in your life" kind of lawsuit, for millions. At a minimum, a payment of the total career path of that officer, including retirement package after a full career, as a lump sum. Damages on top of that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Whistleblowing should be federally protected. No matter which whistle is being blown or against whom. If an officer got ahold of the tape and leaked it, they should be immune from negative impacts from the department, and any such levied against them without real good cause for the rest of their careers should be the kind of thing a lawyer sees as a slam-dunk "you're never gonna have to work again in your life" kind of lawsuit, for millions. At a minimum, a payment of the total career path of that officer, including retirement package after a full career, as a lump sum. Damages on top of that.
    But I want my journos hungry for that next news story! /s

    But yeah, definitely on board with the idea that cops have to carry insurance for these types of things, just like doctors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    But yeah, definitely on board with the idea that cops have to carry insurance for these types of things, just like doctors.
    Honestly they should, and it should tie directly to their money. Their pension fund. Their skin is in the game. Don't want to have to pay a ton for insurance? Get rid of the bad cops ASAP and keep them out.

    Nothing will change as long as any financial penalties are paid by the taxpayers.

  20. #24000
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Honestly they should, and it should tie directly to their money. Their pension fund. Their skin is in the game. Don't want to have to pay a ton for insurance? Get rid of the bad cops ASAP and keep them out.

    Nothing will change as long as any financial penalties are paid by the taxpayers.
    Better solution and I say this with all seriousness bring back decimation as a punishment for departments that is found to have had an abuse case or an unlawful killing.

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