Another "I can't breath" death: Police Reform & Protests in the USA

[Aurrora]

Videos thus far are a mess and the usual crowd is already claiming self defense. I can't make heads nor tails of much of it, but I didn't see anything worth shooting into a crowd over.

What a fucking mess. Apparently the victim is stable, so that's good.

https://twitter.com/meganrabundis/st...35796949213184

He was being attacked by the crowd.

Also, not a part of the New Mexico Civil Guard according the the twitter thread.

[Elegiac]

https://twitter.com/meganrabundis/st...35796949213184

He was being attacked by the crowd.

Also, not a part of the New Mexico Civil Guard according the the twitter thread.

It's not self defense if you got there with the intent to start a fight, y'all.

[Aurrora]

It's not self defense if you got there with the intent to start a fight, y'all.

Not relevant when he was already walking away then got pulled to the ground and smashed in the face with skateboards.

[Collegeguy]

Alot of truckers are saying they won't deliver to cities that defund police departments. It will be hard for cities to survive without trucks.


https://americanmilitarynews.com/202...defund-police/

The company I work for we are already seeing delivery carriers refuse with tracking information that says civil demonstrations in process delivery cancelled.

[Elegiac]

Not relevant when he was already walking away then got pulled to the ground and smashed in the face with skateboards.

Say it with me and clap your hands, now:

"You cannot claim self-defense when you travel somewhere with intent to start a fight."

[Aurrora]

Say it with me and clap your hands, now:

"You cannot claim self-defense when you travel somewhere with intent to start a fight."

Just to be clear, you're saying you have the right to attack someone that fleeing?

[Mayhem]

Just to be clear, you're saying you have the right to attack someone that fleeing?

Just to be clear, you're saying someone who attacks people should just get away with it if they chose to flee the scene?

[Pannonian]

In an effort to balance things, police should retire for a while to let people contemplate its usefulness.
Stop responding to calls or patrolling for let's say, a month of two, in order to let things cool down.

What a great idea!

Next time someone criticizes my work, i'll just pout for a month and do nothing to show em that it could be worse.

What a winning plan!

[Aurrora]

How is it not self defense if they're threatening to kill you and are attacking you?

The "threat to kill" wasn't someone in the crowd say they were going to kill the man with the gun, they were trying to warn off the idiots that thought it was a good idea to bring a skateboard to a gunfight.

[Mayhem]

Self-defense only applies if you're actively being attacked. Can't justify attacking someone that's leaving.

Ok, so hit and run are totally ok things to do, got it.

[Draco-Onis]

Its absolutely arrest more whites. If the difference is cops let white people off easier, they need to stop doing that and up the number of white arrests. If your reasoning is correct, it would self-right itself.

Or we can stop relying on the police for so much and have mechanisms that hold them accountable for their actions. Chauvin had 18 complaints that we know of against him including lawsuits that were settled, if a worker at McDonalds had that many complaints they would be fired. There are police officers that brutalized protesters that had over 70 complaints against him the system isn't working.

[Kellhound]

Or we can stop relying on the police for so much and have mechanisms that hold them accountable for their actions. Chauvin had 18 complaints that we know of against him including lawsuits that were settled, if a worker at McDonalds had that many complaints they would be fired. There are police officers that brutalized protesters that had over 70 complaints against him the system isn't working.

That is often the fault of the police unions, who have made it very hard to actually fire bad cops.

[Mayhem]

Or we can stop relying on the police for so much and have mechanisms that hold them accountable for their actions. Chauvin had 18 complaints that we know of against him including lawsuits that were settled, if a worker at McDonalds had that many complaints they would be fired. There are police officers that brutalized protesters that had over 70 complaints against him the system isn't working.

You could clear their records faster, which would also solve the problem. /s

[arandomuser]

https://twitter.com/NYPDDetectives/s...01631961260032
almost EVERY conservative tweeted about this story of a supposed rogue shake shack POISONING COPS!
Its either faked
or it could of been a machine malfunction similar to this https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...mom/885629002/

guess we solved the case of the antifa shake shack employee

[Draco-Onis]

That is often the fault of the police unions, who have made it very hard to actually fire bad cops.

What about the prosecutors who give them a pass? the courts and congress who make it harder for victims to seek justice or police recordings? the "blue wall of silence" which is why you had 3 cops helping Chauvin kill Floyd? the superior officers who publish the reports like the one on Floyd which said nothing happened here?

Last but not least it's kind of pathetic seeing you here not outraged considering you have such a hard on for the second amendment. You have police shooting black people in their homes with a gun license using no knock warrants for no reason not to mention a president calling on the military to bring down the hammer. I guess that standing up to tyrants thing only applies if the tyrant is a democrat and not a cop, I guess the NRA as well only cares if they are white.

[Mayhem]

I guess the NRA as well only cares if they are white.

https://www.history.com/news/black-p...rt-mulford-act

Pretty much.

[Levelfive]

So, simple solution, arrest more whites and don't resist arrest.

No, we don't like simple solutions. Besides, the "Don't resist arrest" concept is universally smart but widely ignored.

Breonna Taylor should definitely not have been sleeping directly at police. George Floyd should definitely not have been chokeable in clear police vicinity. Tamir Rice should definitely not have been 12, outside, playing with a toy when officers are this violent and hysterical. Philando Castile definitely should not have been...

"We don't like simple solutions. StOP ReSisTinG."

Plenty of those from the former admin.

Almost like it's...systemic?

[Cizr]

https://twitter.com/meganrabundis/st...35796949213184

He was being attacked by the crowd.

Also, not a part of the New Mexico Civil Guard according the the twitter thread.

Yeah from this it looks like self defense. Mobs is chasing him, hitting him and yelling "fucking kill him!". Lynching would follow if he did not defend himself with a gun.

[For_The_Horde]

Yeah from this it looks like self defense. Mobs is chasing him, hitting him and yelling "fucking kill him!". Lynching would follow if he did not defend himself with a gun.

They were chasing him to get his license plate and maybe block him from leaving while someone got the cops. And it sounds to me like they were yelling at the skateboard guy to back off, saying "he'll fucking kill you", you know, before the blue shirt man shot him. And again you can't claim self defense when you go somewhere, armed, and pick a fight with people you don't like.

[Shadowferal]

Almost like it's...systemic?

Obama wasn't willing to do anything about it.
Just the opposite. He gave the okay for military grade weapons for police use.