Another "I can't breath" death: Police Reform & Protests in the USA

[PhaelixWW]

And yet, you can't explain how, other than that juries might react in wildly unethical and unreasonable ways that they don't actually act in in practice.

No, that just demonstrates the limit of your understanding. What I'm describing does not imply anything "wildly unethical" or in an "unreasonable way", and it most definitely happens.

We're not talking about jurors getting pissy and deciding to let a killer walk just to punish the prosecution, which is what you seem to be implying. We're talking about jurors who are opened up to an unconscious sympathy for the defendant (slight as it may be) if the defense can believably argue that the prosecution is on a fishing expedition with multiple contradictory charges because they're not even sure of their own case.

It's a nudge, not a bludgeon. It's not a lack of ethics on the part of the jurors, it's the presence of empathy that the defense can play off of to try to instill doubt.

Jury cases are very, very much about how well you can play the jury, in addition to the facts themselves.

And you've yet to explain why that's a problem.

Because it's not necessary, except to feed some bystander's need for a worse-sounding charge, regardless of the actual sentencing.

It might be different if we were talking about the difference between a sentence of 2 to 4 years with Man2 or 10 to life with Murder2.

But we're not, and you seem categorically incapable of processing that fact.

[Edge-]

https://whyy.org/articles/delaware-s...osse-team-bus/

The irony of all-white officers searching a majority-Black filled charter bus with students for "drugs" that they did not find is not lost on anyone paying attention.

[PickleballAce]

Minneapolis renames intersection to honor George Floyd.

St. George truly was the pillar of that community. The man that all Minnesotans can aspire to be.

[Edge-]

Minneapolis renames intersection to honor George Floyd.

St. George truly was the pillar of that community. The man that all Minnesotans can aspire to be.

And in people continuing to adamantly miss the point no matter what: You.

[unfilteredJW]

HoW dO MeMoRiAlS wOrK

[s_bushido]

St. George truly was the pillar of that community. The man that all Minnesotans can aspire to be.

If he hadn't been murdered in the street by a cop, the world would have continued not giving a shit who he was. But yes, the reaction to his death is the problem, and not the death in the first place.

Fuck off.

[PickleballAce]

HoW dO MeMoRiAlS wOrK

Pretty sure we've been tearing them down when they're for awful people.

Which St. George wasn't. To be clear.

[unfilteredJW]

Pretty sure we've been tearing them down when they're for awful people.

Which St. George wasn't. To be clear.

And the disingenuous follow up.

Shocking.

[Edge-]

Pretty sure we've been tearing them down when they're for awful people.

Which St. George wasn't. To be clear.

In which you're still adamant in refusing to get the point and think that a street being named after the victim of police murder, which kicked off a year of protests for racial justice and accountability for bad cops, has anything to do with a statue of a literal traitor to the country erected 100+ years after said traitors lost the war, by a bunch of folks who are still upset that "the darkies" were fighting for and might receive equal rights.

This is why it's so hard to take any conservatives remotely seriously.

[PickleballAce]

This is why it's so hard to take any conservatives remotely seriously.

Damn, I must've been very confused when I voted last time around. TIL that not wanting to honor bad people makes you a conservative. But only sometimes. It kinda depends.

You truly are a pillar of this community, Edge. A Mod that all MMO-Champions can aspire to be.

[Levelfive]

Minneapolis renames intersection to honor George Floyd.

St. George truly was the pillar of that community. The man that all Minnesotans can aspire to be.

"2 things about Whitlock saying our “culture” made George Floyd a hero:

1. Apparently, believing that a Black person shouldn’t be indiscriminately murdered makes them a “hero.”

2. Wanna know how they could’ve stopped George Floyd from becoming a “hero?”

By not murdering him"

https://twitter.com/michaelharriot/s...DgBuGaCqjn267w

[PickleballAce]

"2 things about Whitlock saying our “culture” made George Floyd a hero:

1. Apparently, believing that a Black person shouldn’t be indiscriminately murdered makes them a “hero.”

NAACP: George Floyd, an American Hero

[unfilteredJW]

Big fucking yikes.

[Edge-]

NAACP: George Floyd, an American Hero

Orange County NAACP*

Also, based on reporting about his life post-prison, he did try to turn things around - https://wng.org/articles/george-floy...art-1617297601

So yeah, providing food for the hungry and shit? He did that.

Did you have any actual objection to this? Is it the use of "hero"? Why so?

Be more explicit here dude, the vagueness is super convenient when you don't want to make a terrible argument.

[s_bushido]

NAACP: George Floyd, an American Hero

And by cutting off the last part of that tweet:

In which you're still adamant in refusing to get the point

Take your shitposting back to whichever white supremacist forums you normally frequent. I'm sure they'll appreciate it more.

[PickleballAce]

Bushido, you really need to cut it out with the ad homs. This forum takes that stuff very seriously, and it kinda makes you look like a child having a temper tantrum.

[Levelfive]

NAACP: George Floyd, an American Hero

You left out the rest: "2. Wanna know how they could’ve stopped George Floyd from becoming a “hero?”

By not murdering him"

[PickleballAce]

You left out the rest: "2. Wanna know how they could’ve stopped George Floyd from becoming a “hero?”

By not murdering him"

Well yeah, Derek Chauvin should not have murdered him. Figured it went without saying but sometimes I have to remind myself of where I am.

Were you expecting me to disagree? Are you mad that I won't?

[Edge-]

Well yeah, Derek Chauvin should not have murdered him. Figured it went without saying but sometimes I have to remind myself of where I am.

Were you expecting me to disagree? Are you mad that I won't?

Naw, when you're just around here dog whistling racism you're gonna get called out. If that upsets you, there are plenty of other places on the internet where you don't even need to dog whistle, you can just be explicit about it and get cheered on.

[Levelfive]

Well yeah, Derek Chauvin should not have murdered him. Figured it went without saying but sometimes I have to remind myself of where I am.

Were you expecting me to disagree? Are you mad that I won't?

Lol. Hon, you're the one wetting your pants that "St George," as you called him, is being memorialized; I'm just reminding you no would have heard of him if your spiritual compatriot could have kept it in his pants and just not murdered the guy. Alas. In any case, cope, and such.