Another "I can't breath" death: Police Reform & Protests in the USA

[Specialka]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Protocol

Literally since fuckin' 1925.

Ok,so every Police Force in the world is committing war crime according to you ?

[Elegiac]

Ok,so every Police Force in the world is committing war crime according to you ?

Yes. ACAB.

Same shit with rubber bullets and other "nonlethal" riot control tools.

[Specialka]

Yes. ACAB.

And you are wrong since :

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/08/u...rnd/index.html

And by ACAB, did you mean All Cops Are Bastards ?

[lockedout]

So no weapons then, got it, thanks.. Will you now stop making shit up?

Its a weapon.

[Elegiac]

And you are wrong since :

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/08/u...rnd/index.html

I said "can be considered a war crime". I provided you the legislation that does so.

Given that its legality is clearly not a commentary on its use given the variance, guess we're just going to have to go back to the general rule of thumb that using chemical weapons is bad.

[Specialka]

I said "can be considered a war crime". I provided you the legislation that does so.

Given that its legality is not a commentary on its use, guess we're just going to have to go back to the general rule of thumb that using chemical weapons is bad.

Did you read the article I sourced you ?

And why did you mean by Acab ?

[Elegiac]

Did you read the article I sourced you ?

Yes, and I'm saying American law is wrong because it permits a domestic war crime.

Just like I say American law is wrong because it still permits slavery in the form of prison labor.

And why did you mean by Acab ?

There are no good cops.

[Specialka]

Yes, and I'm saying American law is wrong because it permits a domestic war crime.

Just like I say American law is wrong because it still permits slavery in the form of prison labor.



There are no good cops.

Well, not only American law then since most police force in the world use those gas.

I won't comment on prison labor as my country does not do that (I think). But it seems wrong, yes.

There is a lot wrong in America, but I do not think you are any better when I see what you are saying here. Personnally, I find you disgusting especially with your mentality toward police force. I sure hope you do not need them someday to help you about something.

[Elegiac]

Well, not only American law then since most police force in the world use those gas.

I won't comment on prison labor as my country does not do that (I think). But it seems wrong, yes.

There is a lot wrong in America, but I do not think you are any better when I see what you are saying here. Personnally, I find you disgusting especially with your mentality toward police force.

Please go ahead and point out where I've advocated for the use of chemical weapons on civilians.

If I haven't, then yes I am better than every single police force worldwide.

I sure hope you do not need them someday to help you about something.

Lol, what the fuck are they going to do? Shoot me to make sure I'm already dead?

They don't stop crime, they don't solve crime, all they do is reinforce an unequitable social and economic structure. I have no need of them - and that bears out, considering I as an affluent white person know very well what a world with defunded police would look like; it's called a suburb.

Also I love how every pro-police argument always ends with some implied vague threat of criminal reprisal if I don't lick the boot.

[Specialka]

Please go ahead and point out where I've advocated for the use of chemical weapons on civilians.

If I haven't, then yes I am better than every single police force worldwide.



Lol, what the fuck are they going to do? Shoot me to make sure I'm already dead?

They don't stop crime, they don't solve crime, all they do is reinforce an unequitable social and economic structure. I have no need of them - and that bears out, considering I as an affluent white person know very well what a world with defunded police would look like; it's called a suburb.

Also I love how every pro-police argument always ends with some implied vague threat of criminal reprisal if I don't lick the boot.

I was talking specifically about the use of tear gas but more about the rest of your blabbering. You know, ACAB, everybody but those than think like me are bad people, etc....

[eschatological]

Weirdly enough, handing out water bottles that have been frozen because IT'S FUCKING JULY during an outdoor protest is.......pretty normal.


...that they were then thrown doesn't make it coordination to assault police.

Even if it's fully frozen, and it's thrown at police - guess what, there's been 2 straight months of police violence, including at these very protests in question. I frankly think protesters have been remarkably restrained in the face of the police brutality of the past few months.

The topper is, the riot in Minneapolis, the very first one, was set off by an Aryan Cowboy white nationalist looking to start a race war.

[Specialka]

Weirdly enough, handing out water bottles that have been frozen because IT'S FUCKING JULY during an outdoor protest is.......pretty normal.


...that they were then thrown doesn't make it coordination to assault police.

Even if it's fully frozen, and it's thrown at police - guess what, there's been 2 straight months of police violence, including at these very protests in question. I frankly think protesters have been remarkably restrained in the face of the police brutality of the past few months.

The topper is, the riot in Minneapolis, the very first one, was set off by an Aryan Cowboy white nationalist looking to start a race war.

So the violence from one side justify the other one ? How are you any better than those you denounce then ? And why do you complain when the other side become even more violent ?

[lockedout]

Weirdly enough, handing out water bottles that have been frozen because IT'S FUCKING JULY during an outdoor protest is.......pretty normal.


...that they were then thrown doesn't make it coordination to assault police.

Even if it's fully frozen, and it's thrown at police - guess what, there's been 2 straight months of police violence, including at these very protests in question. I frankly think protesters have been remarkably restrained in the face of the police brutality of the past few months.

The topper is, the riot in Minneapolis, the very first one, was set off by an Aryan Cowboy white nationalist looking to start a race war.

Watch the video the entire thing was well coordinated.

[Cizr]

Ok,so every Police Force in the world is committing war crime according to you ?

They are not because they are not using it in a war. They are using it on domestic terrorists and their "its a war crime!" is just mental gymnastics.

Same with suddenly calling plains clothes police (something that police uses in a lot countries) Gestapo when they want to arrest suspects.

[Specialka]

They are not because they are not using it in a war. They are using it on domestic terrorists and their "its a war crime!" is just mental gymnastics.

Same with suddenly calling plains clothes police (something that police uses in a lot countries) Gestapo when they want to arrest suspects.

Why the use of the word "terrorists" ? Why not protesters ? Or even rioters (though we are far from a riot) if you would prefer ?

[jonnysensible]

the cops fucked off and now its chill : https://twitter.com/MrOlmos/status/1289073084574523397

this is what happens when the cops dont show up purely to fuck people up for fun.

1) The presence of police was the main source of provocation for clashes.
2) No police, no clashes.
3) Determined, persistent and sincere protest works

[Cizr]

Why the use of the word "terrorists" ? Why not protesters ? Or even rioters (though we are far from a riot) if you would prefer ?

I have no problem with protesters, you absolutely have a right to protest. Rioters are terrorists tho so thats why I call them that. They use violence and intimidation in pursuit of political goals.

Definition of terrorist : a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

[Specialka]

I have no problem with protesters, you absolutely have a right to protest. Rioters are terrorists tho so thats why I call them that. They use violence and intimidation in pursuit of political goals.

Definition of terrorist : a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

I am not really a big fan of using the word "Terrorist" for those kind of events. I am not sure I would be using riot either. I think I would stick to violent protest. Though I do understand we "could" use it if we stick to the definition but I think he do not add anything constructive to the discussion apart from pouring more oil onto the fire.

[Elegiac]

Watch the video the entire thing was well coordinated.

Yes, because people have learned well the lessons of Hong Kong as to how to best protect themselves as a group from police.

When people were peacefully protesting police gassed them, so they started wearing respirators. So police started shooting at them with rubber bullets, and the protesters start wearing vests. So police start aiming for the head, and the protesters defend themselves by wearing helmets.

Then you call them well organized terrorists. That's how it always plays out.

[Deja Thoris]

Watch the video the entire thing was well coordinated.

Why do you hate democracy so much? Are you a fan of oppressive regimes like China and Russia?