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    The whole morally gray thing. Close runner up is the "alternate reality" of WoD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravenmoon View Post
    Are you Obelisk Kai's less articulate brother now with a vendetta against night elven highborne lore? Night elves have always had mages, do you want to delete all the night elf lore and the race just so the possibilty of night elves having great arcane abilities doens't threaten your sense of horde elf ownership? Really?
    @Tanaria apply water to burnt area.

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    Bronze dragon helping Garrosh. To make WoD.
    Blood Elves were based on a STRONG request from a poll of Asian players where many remarked on the Horde side that they and their girlfriends wanted a non-creepy femme race to play (Source)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    I think, at least in the short term, the Bronze Dragonflight and Anachronos were looking to fix a mistake that one of their own (Kairozdormu) made when he sided with Garrosh and misused the Bronzes' power as well as the Vision of Time to create/solidify a timeway that should never have been. Essentially Garrosh and Kairoz condemned AU Draenor to the slow death of all alternate timelines, ensuring that the all denizens of that world would eventually die out. At least by helping empower the Vision they ensure some of the AU Orcs can escape the destruction of AU Draenor - and given the state of Yrel and her militant Draenei fanatics they don't really want to extend a bridge to them.

    And of course with the Bronze flight there is always some future unknown they're hedging their bets on, which won't be revealed to us unless it becomes relevant later on.
    Shouldn't bronze dragons want entire AU to die?

    I believe their true motif is that someone modified the reality to make fourth war happen and they tried to avoid Horde losing.
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    If you are suggesting to take my Night Elfs Shadowmeld away, then please find some pike to run yourself through, tyvm.

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    Night Elves in the Alliance
    Void Elves
    The Alliance gets the Horde's most popular race. The Horde should get the Alliance's most popular race in return. Alteraci Humans for the Horde!

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    "Let's have a story about time traveling Orcs from another reality, only to figure out there's too many Orcs in it halfway through writing it" must surely be up there. Most WoW stories have OK premises and bad execution, this time the premise was beyond idiotic and the execution was awful. To this day I still have no idea how anyone sane approved of this.

    After that, there's quite a few runner-ups, such as "DRAENOR IZ FREE", "there must suddenly always be a Lich King", Deathwing being turned into a mindless murderrage critter, more or less all of TBC, Med'an, Orc Hitler, Anime villain Sylvanas... The list could go on for quite the long time, to be honest.

  6. #86
    People saying void elves, lmao....

    Orc Hitler getting redeemed in 5 minutes was objectively the worst thing that happened in WoW storyline.
    The Void. A force of infinite hunger. Its whispers have broken the will of dragons... and lured even the titans' own children into madness. Sages and scholars fear the Void. But we understand a truth they do not. That the Void is a power to be harnessed... to be bent by a will strong enough to command it. The Void has shaped us... changed us. But you will become its master. Wield the shadows as a weapon to save our world... and defend the Alliance!

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    Draenor is free!
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    Shadow deserves nothing, the same as Fire Mages.

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    Everything after vanilla really, but cracks were starting to show even in vanilla.

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    illidan "redemption" esp him turning on the Naaru and the army of light just standing like there yep ok you just killed our Supreme leader but its cool yo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    People saying void elves, lmao....


    whether we like void elves or not you can't deny it literally came out of nowhere and it was an excuse to deny the Alliance players the Silver Covenant Elves
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardenaso View Post

    whether we like void elves or not you can't deny it literally came out of nowhere and it was an excuse to deny the Alliance players the Silver Covenant Elves
    The "they have no backstory" argument is and was always a moot point. A backstory is not necessary at all if it has no tie to the main story. What we knew of the void elves was enough to understand why exactly they would end up in Telogrus Rift and why they'd feel entitled to joining the Alliance.

    They were never going to make playable High Elves anyway. It took them 3 YEARS to give void elves pink skin, something that should've been here since their introduction.
    The Void. A force of infinite hunger. Its whispers have broken the will of dragons... and lured even the titans' own children into madness. Sages and scholars fear the Void. But we understand a truth they do not. That the Void is a power to be harnessed... to be bent by a will strong enough to command it. The Void has shaped us... changed us. But you will become its master. Wield the shadows as a weapon to save our world... and defend the Alliance!

  13. #93
    Malfurion banning Illidan. It's so stupid. And Illidan could have joined the Legion because of that. In fact that's what he did later.

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    yeah... tis is hard to top

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    Wrathion being our pal in the resent patch after so long... Like, out of nowhere...

    Its not the stupidest thing, because it was cringy like Med'an, but because its the dumbest way to re-introduce a character i have ever seen O.o
    May the lore be great and the stories interesting. A game without a story, is a game without a soul. Value the lore and it will reward you with fun!

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    Sargeras reaches azeroth and decides to just float above it in a cloud instead of cleaving it in half immediately. Even worse, the reason is supposedly "love". Oh fuck OFF.

    The Titans are a mysterious race that is world build far far away. OMG! Plot Twist! They are all dead! OMG! Plot Twist! They all send their souls to Azeroth! OMG! Plot Twist! They are all alive again somehow..whatever. OMG! Plot Twist! They ordered the Shadowlands or something blah blah.

    Totally ruining the Titans at this point with this nonsense. I expect the Titans will be killed and resurrected 4x in SL. And swap from good to evil and back 6x as well.

    Its so shocking! Plot Twists!
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    TO FIX WOW:1. smaller server sizes & server-only LFG awarding satchels, so elite players help others. 2. "helper builds" with loom powers - talent trees so elite players cast buffs on low level players XP gain, HP/mana, regen, damage, etc. 3. "helper ilvl" scoring how much you help others. 4. observer games like in SC to watch/chat (like twitch but with MORE DETAILS & inside the wow UI) 5. guild leagues to compete with rival guilds for progression (with observer mode).6. jackpot world mobs.

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    - Blood elves joining the Horde
    - space goats
    - hunting Illidan in TBC
    - no repercussions for the Forsaken after the wrathgate
    - Tirion deus ex machina in ICC
    - Deathwing
    - Garrosh going full genocide on all non-Orcs
    - Varian not disbanding the Horde after MoP
    - All of WoD and it's consequences. There is literally no good stories
    - again, spaceships in WoW (and not using them in BfA)
    - Burning of Teldrassil through some catapults
    - N'Zoth's overly convulted "plan" that was supposedly 10000 years in the making and relied in the heart of azeroth which did not exists for 9999 out of the 10000 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurojust View Post
    Malfurion banning Illidan. It's so stupid. And Illidan could have joined the Legion because of that. In fact that's what he did later.
    If someone spawns a literal Chernobyl on our supposed safest refuge site I would also have done the same
    The Alliance gets the Horde's most popular race. The Horde should get the Alliance's most popular race in return. Alteraci Humans for the Horde!

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    Destroying Tyrande's character arc by turning her into an edgelord with the night warrior gimmick. Why not just put her in a leather jacket and have her tool around on a motorcycle????
    TO FIX WOW:1. smaller server sizes & server-only LFG awarding satchels, so elite players help others. 2. "helper builds" with loom powers - talent trees so elite players cast buffs on low level players XP gain, HP/mana, regen, damage, etc. 3. "helper ilvl" scoring how much you help others. 4. observer games like in SC to watch/chat (like twitch but with MORE DETAILS & inside the wow UI) 5. guild leagues to compete with rival guilds for progression (with observer mode).6. jackpot world mobs.

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