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    Reason to Divorce

    I'm not married or anything, but I was reading about this topic. Apparently a person must state the reason they want a divorce at a divorce trial and be able to prove that this reason is well-founded (in the US)

    In a Fault divorce (something really "bad" happened), there most be no mutual consent. But, for a Non-Fault divorse, both parties have to agree on the divorce.

    I find it uncanny, that you can't decide to undergo through a divorce on your own without having to prove anything. If you want out, you should be able to leave.

    Maybe I interpreted the legal aspects wrong? If so, please correct me. I just read a little bit about the topic because of a random burst of interest.

    What are your opinions about this?

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    If the love is gone...

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    I believe irreconcilable differences is what most people use as a reason and that pretty much mean anything. I don' think you need both parties to agree for a divorce but again i am not a lawyer.

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    Just have to remember one legal detail; 50/50 split.

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    I have been with my gf for 21 years... so... not sure about the whole divorce thing. But, I think I get it, every time I listen to this:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorensen View Post
    Sorry but marriage is forever.

    That's why there's the til death do us part
    Isn't that just part of a religious ceremony? Or does it take effect in a legal marriage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Just have to remember one legal detail; 50/50 split.
    I agree with this.

    Whatever you had before the marriage is yours. Whatever you made together during the marriage is 50/50

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarohk View Post
    I'm not married or anything, but I was reading about this topic. Apparently a person must state the reason they want a divorce at a divorce trial and be able to prove that this reason is well-founded (in the US)

    In a Fault divorce (something really "bad" happened), there most be no mutual consent. But, for a Non-Fault divorse, both parties have to agree on the divorce.

    I find it uncanny, that you can't decide to undergo through a divorce on your own without having to prove anything. If you want out, you should be able to leave.

    Maybe I interpreted the legal aspects wrong? If so, please correct me. I just read a little bit about the topic because of a random burst of interest.

    What are your opinions about this?
    So, you may have gotten some terms inverted. Take a look at this quick summary, it might straighten things out a bit. Short answer is that people can get divorced just about whenever they want, just as long as they state a recognized reason, which are so open ended as to almost always qualify (such as "incompatibility" or "irreconcilable differences").

    (I hope this response doesn't sound snarky, because it's not meant to be, but sometimes I can come across that way unintentionally. )

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    In most places, courts are pretty lax with what constitutes a "valid reason", usually just the vague "irreconcilable differences" is good enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Just have to remember one legal detail; 50/50 split.
    Cant I say;
    I just want my laptop, my documents and clothes. Nothing else. Laptop can be said for personal hobby time+work and documents are strictly for work/life (like pension documents etc).
    I work and got salary. Partner is unemployed. No kids.

    what happens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarohk View Post
    I'm not married or anything, but I was reading about this topic. Apparently a person must state the reason they want a divorce at a divorce trial and be able to prove that this reason is well-founded (in the US)

    In a Fault divorce (something really "bad" happened), there most be no mutual consent. But, for a Non-Fault divorse, both parties have to agree on the divorce.

    I find it uncanny, that you can't decide to undergo through a divorce on your own without having to prove anything. If you want out, you should be able to leave.

    Maybe I interpreted the legal aspects wrong? If so, please correct me. I just read a little bit about the topic because of a random burst of interest.

    What are your opinions about this?
    An at-fault divorce means your spouse broke the terms of the marriage contract in some provable way, or has confessed to doing so. This isn't a big list of reasons; the main one here is infidelity. You cheated, and I've got proof? That's grounds for an at-fault divorce.

    No-fault means you just want out. Maybe the love is gone, maybe you know they cheated or something but can't prove it.

    The difference is usually that there's a mandated waiting period for a no-fault divorce proceeding. You file, wait the period out, and then the divorce can proceed.

    In my own divorce, it was at-fault, so I didn't have to wait. The waiting period where we lived was a year, for a no-fault. So the only real difference is that I could file, go through the legal back-and-forth, and get it all settled in a couple months, rather than waiting a year to get the ball rolling.

    It does not have to be mutual. Mine wasn't contested, but a contested divorce just generally means lawyers struggling to serve your soon-to-be-ex with papers, and courts establishing deadlines for signing; they don't need to want to sign, but refusing can lead to further penalties. The usual battle, there, is deciding on how to split shared property; every single item can be contested if you really want to drag it out. But that means the pace the divorce proceeds is glacial, not that your partner has to agree that they want the divorce.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    If the love is gone...
    You mean the sexual attraction?

    For myself, only 2 reasons. Adultery or a threat to my life. A direct physical one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    In most places, courts are pretty lax with what constitutes a "valid reason", usually just the vague "irreconcilable differences" is good enough.
    This is even more true now than it use to be for sure. Of course in some places even thousands of years ago, a man ( not a woman ) could simply divorce his wife with a written dismissal. For any reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    For me and my wife, NON it's until Death. One of the very first things we talked about dating. Two souls become one kind of deal. If not I wouldn't get married in the first place. It's for life.
    Reading it like that... am glad am not married...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Reading it like that... am glad am not married...
    Yeah it really isn't for everybody, I mean some people try to tailor it all like a suit and frankly many of the same people are like OMFG can't believe I am stuck in the same house with someone I claimed to love during the Quarantine LOL!

    Granted I get it's not for everybody and I think that is reasonable. If you really are NOT ready to share your life, it probably won't last.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarohk View Post
    I'm not married or anything, but I was reading about this topic. Apparently a person must state the reason they want a divorce at a divorce trial and be able to prove that this reason is well-founded (in the US)

    In a Fault divorce (something really "bad" happened), there most be no mutual consent. But, for a Non-Fault divorse, both parties have to agree on the divorce.

    I find it uncanny, that you can't decide to undergo through a divorce on your own without having to prove anything. If you want out, you should be able to leave.

    Maybe I interpreted the legal aspects wrong? If so, please correct me. I just read a little bit about the topic because of a random burst of interest.

    What are your opinions about this?
    I find it hard to believe that if you want to divorce a man or woman you no longer love, you're not allowed to if he/she doesn't want to.

    That makes no sense.

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