Originally Posted by
Coconut
I am exactly looking for a pulse. In my eyes, it is 100% wrong to act in the manner that the party leader did. It was an exaggerated measure to kick the paladin, and an even more exaggerated measure to kick me. People wail about DBM being the "minimum necessary", but nobody gave a concrete reason as to why it matters on Jaina - missing the pull is immaterial, as one could still miss the pull with DBM, or pay attention and not miss it without it, like I did. One can also make the pull timer visible for people without DBM. But regardless of all that, it is still wrong to cast a more malevolent gaze on someone for a benign comment, and completely wrong to not at least apologize and give a reason for "preemptively" kicking someone, to show that you at least empathize with their frustration for losing the weekly lockout.
People who agree with the leader unequivocally, or even brag how they would have done the same, shows me how far the cancer and putrefaction has spread. It tells me how high my chances are to encounter similar behavior in other pugs, so I can decide whether to keep joining them or to ask some friends and make my own groups. For the most part, the thread has reasserted the notion that you should only play solo or with friends, because you are not a human being to the randoms, you are less than a tool. You are right on one thing though. I did not belong in that group, and it was my mistake for getting into it. Like I said before, joining a group on the first day of the reset was too eager and too greedy, I'll own up to that. That doesn't make the leader any less despicable in my eyes.
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I did kill Jaina before (without DBM, in other pugs without my geared friends, survived til the end). The achievement was a requirement for getting in the group, so the paladin must have had it too.