Josh removed from Method, Sascha accused of harassment

[FelPlague]

From what i read he was mostly just toxic. I dont think his "FU BITCH U MINE MAN FU FUCK HIM I AM BETTER" was meant to be taken seriously.

so what about the well
https://i.imgur.com/2NgyQWj.png
and https://i.imgur.com/ta1spkH.png
to a 13 year old he was trying to get into the pants of.

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Where's the evidence? There's hearsay and some supposed screenshots which don't seem to show anything criminal. The person says they're 16, he points out that that's legal in Europe. And he was 21? Hitting on a 16 year old? My god, call the village elders.

again, getting nudes from a 16 year old is illegal.
how many times do we need to point that out to you?

[BrintoSFJ]

Lol this isnt a court of law. You dont know what youre talking about. Both "innocent until proven guilty" and "due process" are legal terms that prevent the Government from falsely imprisoning you. Neither of which apply to getting fired. Stop making yourself look ignorant.

So basically you are saying that you have the full right to ruin someone's life even if that person has not committed any crime but was falsely accused by some vindictive or mentally ill person?

[Daymanmb]

Where's the evidence? There's hearsay and some supposed screenshots which don't seem to show anything criminal. The person says they're 16, he points out that that's legal in Europe. And he was 21? Hitting on a 16 year old? My god, call the village elders.

Lol still pretending, huh? "Hearsay is generally defined as a statement, other than one made by the declarant while testifying at the trial or hearing, offered in evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted." Even if its false, its not hearsay... jesus christ youre making yourself look like a fool over and over.

[Quaade]

Hey you will never fucking beleive it.
but guess what he did.

If he kept it he's still guilty of having child pornography on his PC. Someone who just happens to have "Mein Kampf" because someone mailed it to them and they kept it has views and beliefs that align with the sender even though they never express it. And if you stay friends with them despite that and accept their beliefs then you deep down have the same beliefs.

A quote, "if a guy in a room of ten people espouses Nazi views and none of the other nine people rebuke him then there are ten Nazis in the room."

So yeah, you can have guilt by association as anything other than active confinement is silent approval.

[Shibito]

Method is one of the bigger esports teams now - yes their presence is primarily in WoW but they've evolved beyond that too.

Esports is still Esports, real sports are way more popular

[Xesco]

I know, you quote me but I still agree with you that it is stupid. However, being the co ceo of any company is still a position of power, it’s just sad that it’s for gaming. I would rather be piss poor than be involved in any aspects of “esports”.

I agree with you

[Daymanmb]

So basically you are saying that you have the full right to ruin someone's life even if that person has not committed any crime but was falsely accused by some vindictive or mentally ill person?

Thats what civil court is for.

[LordVargK]

Correct me if I am wrong, but I always thought that the age of consent in the UK was 16, but that was only for ages of 16 and 17. Anyone 18 or older, that did something with someone at 16 (even with consent) was considered statutory rape?

From what I found 16 is legal regardless of the partners age.

[ClassicPeon]

So many people here not realizing grooming underage kids is a crime.

lmao

I think people are arguing that perhaps he is just a toxic moron and that he might not really be trying to groom her- I probably havent read all of it though.

[Rune B]

so what about the well
https://i.imgur.com/2NgyQWj.png
and https://i.imgur.com/ta1spkH.png
to a 13 year old he was trying to get into the pants of.

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again, getting nudes from a 16 year old is illegal.
how many times do we need to point that out to you?

Where's the evidence of that?

What he wrote, if he indeed wrote it, is against the terms of service for the game, but it's not illegal in the US.

[FelPlague]

This is stretching it... I mean really?

There are times when both genders get called "Hey guys"

And I don't think it's ever really been a problem to get called "Hey girls" in the feminine context of "Hey guys"

https://english.stackexchange.com/qu...ersion-of-guys


Ngl, I read one of those twitlongers on Sascha and that really was all just a failed relationship type of deal. Not a rape or anything of the sort. Or am I missing something here?
Because this: https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sr9o22 doesn't implicate anything. It's like a description of a dudes failed attempts. Plus the girl was broke on the trip, raising so many questions as to her being over there having an exotic vacation of sorts. (to me, travelling to the US from eastern EU, would be an exotic vacation)

Ok let me drill it into your skull.


Your boss comes up to you, you say "hey i need new equipment" and he says "sorry cant do that, by the way, you seem lonely you should come back to my hotel room for the night" and you respond with "No sorry i dont want to" and his response, again, AS YOUR BOSS is "i dont take being shut down lightly... lol"

Yeah you dont see the problem there?

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Where's the evidence of that?

What he wrote, if he indeed wrote it, is against the terms of service for the game, but it's not illegal in the US.

"Asking a 16 year old for nudes is not illegal in the US"

1. it is
2. they are in the UK
3. terms of service? this is not a fucking game my dude.

[Shibito]

Again this is MOTHER FUCKING METHOD
you know the MULTI MILLION DOLLAR COMPANY
this is not some random 5/12 heroic progress guild
this is the tip of the top guild in the world, with many world first under its belt
to be part of this guild means a likelyhood of being sponsored, of becoming a pro, of becoming "famous in the wow community"

Again, stop talking to your boss who is trying to sleep with you, and see how long you stay hired.

Who the fuck cares that its method u can still ignore people if you worked a REAL job you know you dont HAVE to like all your co workers

[ClassicPeon]

so what about the well
https://i.imgur.com/2NgyQWj.png
and https://i.imgur.com/ta1spkH.png
to a 13 year old he was trying to get into the pants of.

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again, getting nudes from a 16 year old is illegal.
how many times do we need to point that out to you?

Yeah thats him being toxic and inappropropriate as fuck. Thats not really a crime though. I mean unless you are trying to argue he was seriously telling herself to kill herself.

[FelPlague]

From what I found 16 is legal regardless of the partners age.

16 is not for photos, and 13 is def not.

[Daymanmb]

Where's the evidence of that?

What he wrote, if he indeed wrote it, is against the terms of service for the game, but it's not illegal in the US.

You dont know anything about law, my friend. As evidenced by your previous posts.

[Easo]

While there definitely is a lot of he said, she said, some of the screencaps are plainly creepy as fuck, which, for whatever reason, seems to be eluding way too many people here. Good to know there are more creepy persons on the forum than I expected.

I think it is pretty much clear that this is more than just some baseless accusation.

God, if only you had the option to use an ignore feature online if you had unwanted attention. This poor girl had no chance.

Exactly.

That's the entire online harassment problem solved right there. But oh wait. They actually enjoy the attention.

If only you people would finally actually start reading something more useful, like... basic human psychology? This has been talked to death over and over and over.

[FelPlague]

Who the fuck cares that its method u can still ignore people if you worked a REAL job you know you dont HAVE to like all your co workers

lol "Working for a multi million dollar company is not a real job"
lololololol alright then.
And again, there is a difference between not being liked by your co-workers, and not being liked by the CEO of the company.

[Quaade]

That's reversal of assumption of guilt, and is not part of any Western or democratic justice state legal system.

That only applies in a court of law. When the police investigate they're going to see you as guilty as the bias from thinking that you're innocent can make them overlook things. As long as they're impartial working from the assumption that you're guilty is a lot better. Because if they find nothing then that's real evidence that you're innocent and the only argument that can be used against you is that you've hidden your tracks extremely well. So well that even a thorough investigation was unable to find them...

[Huzzaa]

Ok let me drill it into your skull.


Your boss comes up to you, you say "hey i need new equipment" and he says "sorry cant do that, by the way, you seem lonely you should come back to my hotel room for the night" and you respond with "No sorry i dont want to" and his response, again, AS YOUR BOSS is "i dont take being shut down lightly... lol"

Yeah you dont see the problem there?

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"Asking a 16 year old for nudes is not illegal in the US"

1. it is
2. they are in the UK
3. terms of service? this is not a fucking game my dude.

That twitlonger doesn't tell the story preceding the events over at Blizzcon, or I missed it.

So I have no idea. But if that's the case, then oof.


By the way, I do agree, on the consent ages being way too low.

Most people aren't even mature when they're 20..

[Rune B]

Lol still pretending, huh? "Hearsay is generally defined as a statement, other than one made by the declarant while testifying at the trial or hearing, offered in evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted." Even if its false, its not hearsay... jesus christ youre making yourself look like a fool over and over.

Now you're just projecting, probably because you yourself felt like a fool.

You also proved my point. Which is that this is not a court of law, and therefore, anything they say is not to be treated as if it's the objectively proven fact.

It's the accuser who has to prove their case.

So prove it. Or be quiet.