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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostile View Post
    If Swifty is innocent there was more lost than words can describe.
    Origin PC ceased their relationship with him due to the 2015 allegations that they ignored at the time resurfacing, but your main concern is the removal of an in game npc, makes sense

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoowpunk View Post
    They basically threw him under the bus instantly...
    The action of removing everything about swifty from the game is the same as saying "we think he is guilty"

    And basically...its done...he is not coming back...even if proven innocent.

    I hate companies...
    its not that they think he is guilty,its just a pr move

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostile View Post
    If Swifty is innocent there was more lost than words can describe.
    If innocent, then indeed more have been lost than deserved.
    FOMO: "Fear Of Missing Out", also commonly known as people with a mental issue of managing time and activities, many expecting others to fit into their schedule so they don't miss out on things to come. If FOMO becomes a problem for you, do seek help, it can be a very unhealthy lifestyle..

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzeeyooo View Post
    Origin PC ceased their relationship with him due to the 2015 allegations that they ignored at the time resurfacing, but your main concern is the removal of an in game npc, makes sense
    My concern is people losing things over someone claiming something that nobody has proven true.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by jackofwind View Post
    Nothing of value was lost.
    Im against cancel culture, gossip channels and outrage channels...
    They literally ruin people's lives without caring.

    I dont like watching this degenerate people with actual power to ruin peoples lives.

  6. #26
    they move faster on this then they do removing bots
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  7. #27
    Why wouldn't they?

    If he's innocent - They've only harmed swifty, and are able to say "We believe ALL women" - no one will really care.

    If he's guilty - Then they made the right choice immediately.

    There's no loss here for anyone but Swifty.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Daedius View Post
    Meanwhile they have that meme-tastic Goldshire being an erotic role playing hub since Vanilla, without issue regardless of kids playing the game... :V
    Next week's headline: "To curb rampant sexual deviancy, Blizzard has decided to replace Goldshire Inn with a giant, photo realistic statue of George Floyd. Moving forward, every player is now required to /kneel in front of the monument for 8 minutes and 46 seconds while J Allen Brack lectures the player about the perils of racial inequality in modern society. After the end of the lecture, players will be asked a series of increasingly uncomfortable questions to determine their "wokeness." If a certain threshold is not met, the player will be permanently banned and Blizzard will inform the FBI of the potential hostility they possess."

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by arr0gance View Post
    Next week's headline: "To curb rampant sexual deviancy, Blizzard has decided to replace Goldshire Inn with a giant, photo realistic statue of George Floyd. Moving forward, every player is now required to /kneel in front of the monument for 8 minutes and 46 seconds while J Allen Brack lectures the player about the perils of racial inequality in modern society. After the end of the lecture, players will be asked a series of increasingly uncomfortable questions to determine their "wokeness." If a certain threshold is not met, the player will be permanently banned and Blizzard will inform the FBI of the potential hostility they possess."
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  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Wheeler View Post
    Why wouldn't they?

    If he's innocent - They've only harmed swifty, and are able to say "We believe ALL women" - no one will really care.

    If he's guilty - Then they made the right choice immediately.

    There's no loss here for anyone but Swifty.
    "They only harmed swifty"

    By making a wordless announcement that they believe he is guilty and possibly leading other parties taking this route due to this.

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterymask View Post
    The thing about sexual assault alligations its usually the policy to believe the victim until its proven otherwise

    Yeah you see a lot of things in the media about the false reports and people whos lives are ruined because someone either wanted attention or didnt want their parents to find out but....dismissing a real allegation is considered worse than going hard on a fake one
    And of course when the person is famous it gets even worse. They get fired from their TV show, dropped from their deals, don't get invited to things, etc, by all of the people who are afraid of being seen "supporting" someone who is accused of something.

    It basically boils down to "We don't care if you did it or not, but it's bad publicity to be associated with you, so bye."
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  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Wheeler View Post
    Why wouldn't they?

    If he's innocent - They've only harmed swifty, and are able to say "We believe ALL women" - no one will really care.

    If he's guilty - Then they made the right choice immediately.

    There's no loss here for anyone but Swifty.
    yeah sure, nobody cares. that's why we are discussing this in a thread and thats why people are making more threads and videos
    about this. because literally nobody cares.
    Also there is a lot to lose here...for everyone. Because enabling this fkin cancel culture is wrong and fks up a lot of lifes. Imagine
    telling a dude 20 years ago that one day you could lose your job, because someone "tweeted" something. Or you dared to post that
    "all lives matter". Its a giant clownfiesta.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by cparle87 View Post
    And of course when the person is famous it gets even worse. They get fired from their TV show, dropped from their deals, don't get invited to things, etc, by all of the people who are afraid of being seen "supporting" someone who is accused of something.

    It basically boils down to "We don't care if you did it or not, but it's bad publicity to be associated with you, so bye."
    This is happening in real time with the Method organization. Sponsors are being dropped left and right. Reddit has already started petitioning literally anybody who has ever been associated with the brand to ensure that there's no possibility for the organization to recover and the management team will likely be unable to work in the industry for a very long time. I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing because there's a lot of evidence to support the organization acting way too late; even said, I'm sure there are a lot of content creators (see: Dratnos) who worked under the brand who are going to be negatively impacted by the organization being burnt to the ground over the course of just a few days. Completely innocent people who are going to have to drastically adjust their livelihood because of an incident which they had absolutely nothing to do with. That's the problem with cancel culture; in our thirst for blood, we often forget about collateral damage (or worse, justify it) and the only thing that's remembered is the smug satisfaction of sticking it to the "bad guys." Meh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoowpunk View Post
    Im against cancel culture, gossip channels and outrage channels...
    They literally ruin people's lives without caring.

    I dont like watching this degenerate people with actual power to ruin peoples lives.
    Cancel culture lol.

    Acting like this is some kneejerk emotional response made by a company when it's literally the definition of a straight-cut business decision.
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    Because fuck you, that's why.

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by jackofwind View Post
    Cancel culture lol.

    Acting like this is some kneejerk emotional response made by a company when it's literally the definition of a straight-cut business decision.
    Im not saying Blizzard is the cancel culture...
    Im saying Blizzard (POSSIBLY) caved in to a cancel culture person.

    Possibly

    We dont know, i sure as hell have no idea who is right or wrong but it is a possibility Blizzard didnt give 2 rats about.

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    society has lost "innocent until proven guilty".

    now its immediate guilt.. sever ties just in case. hope you can prove your innocence, we dont really care as our gnat like attention span will have moved on by the time you can.

    cancel culture and pre-emptive actions are a plague.

    if he is found guilty.. then fine, be the first to dismiss any and all ties, and denounce the behavior. but until then.. we must stand true to "innocent until proven guilty" and question ALL accusations for proof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ablib View Post
    I do realize that this is an internet forum full of morons, however in real life, no one questions me, people look to me for the answer, look up to me, trust me. To have dipshits on a video game forum question me, is insulting.

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    Really stupid. Swifty was the first big WoW personality. Even if the stories turn out to be true (though he has denied all of them) his influence should be recognized. Blizzard was not even aware of the impact streamers had until they banned him in cataclysm.

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Sinndra View Post
    society has lost "innocent until proven guilty".

    now its immediate guilt.. sever ties just in case. hope you can prove your innocence, we dont really care as our gnat like attention span will have moved on by the time you can. .
    Its still innocent until proven guilty....he hasnt been arrested, hes not in jail, has no formal charges..that literally only applies and only EVER applies to the court of law.

    People can believe what they want, private companies can do what they want. Look at OJ simpson...legally speaking he's innocent but no company wants to deal with him. Hell theres a Alices Adventures in Wonderland Episode that will never see the light of day simply because it was set to premire the week he was accused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    Really stupid. Swifty was the first big WoW personality. Even if the stories turn out to be true (though he has denied all of them) his influence should be recognized. Blizzard was not even aware of the impact streamers had until they banned him in cataclysm.
    In what universe would someone's contribution to a video game warrant them being recognized in a positive manner despite being a convicted sexual abuser??


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  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoowpunk View Post
    Im not saying Blizzard is the cancel culture...
    Im saying Blizzard (POSSIBLY) caved in to a cancel culture person.

    Possibly

    We dont know, i sure as hell have no idea who is right or wrong but it is a possibility Blizzard didnt give 2 rats about.
    You mean Cancel Culture in the shape of women who are victims of sexual assault being immediately dismissed by the police and persecutors or Cancel Culture in the shape of rapists getting their time in jail cancelled via suspended sentences?

    If you are talking about some guy getting the privilege of having a NPC in the biggest MMO ever removed, then you are a man-child who should grow up and get your priorities sorted out, because right now they seem pretty gross. But then again, boys be boys. Women having to rely on accusations made to the world wide web to get some justice is surely a non issue when we are talking about a boy having a status symbol taken away.

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