Ben affleck signs batman contract for hbo max

[deenman]

His Batman wasn't great, but he played it well. It's just a matter of finding the right writers.

I felt his batman was by far the best,from the live action atleast

[Ealyssa]

why would anyone want this? snyder is an awful director, the snyder cut is goign to be somehow even worse than the theatrical cut, and afflek wasnt even that great of a batman. decent bruce wayne. meh batman. "MARTHA!" ugh.

Yeah all that hype for a garbage director... like WTF. All he touches is literal garbage

[kail]

They didn't learn from the joke of BvS? I fucking hope they did. I am more of a DC fanboy vs Marvel in terms of comic book characters but holy shit their live-action has been one train wreck after another.

[s_bushido]

They didn't learn from the joke of BvS? I fucking hope they did. I am more of a DC fanboy vs Marvel in terms of comic book characters but holy shit their live-action has been one train wreck after another.

Well, considering a lot of people apparently seem to think the hallowed Snyder Cut will redeem that movie, I don't think anything has been learned. It may be more visually interesting than what we got from Whedon, but people are kidding themselves if they think that Snyder is even remotely a good storyteller. At best, this is the company thinking they will be able to capitalize on curiosity to make some cash...which they will probably end up being correct about.

[NihilSustinet]

Yeah all that hype for a garbage director... like WTF. All he touches is literal garbage

he made one good movie once. the rest is all garbage.

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I felt his batman was by far the best,from the live action atleast

are you joking? batflekk straight up murdered like 50 people. if you know batman, thats not batman.

[deenman]

he made one good movie once. the rest is all garbage.

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are you joking? batflekk straight up murdered like 50 people. if you know batman, thats not batman.

Sure batman is usualy portrayed as the no kill guy,but that doesnt mean i enjoy that version or agree with it,frank miller's batman is also nice,and i love the darker stories like killing joke,death of a family,the no kill batman is an extremly silly and basicaly a relic of the early campy origins of batman,its not only silly but outright criminal to let people like the joker live time and time again,how many people would batman have saved if he killed the really bad ones?sure comics cant kill their villains from a creative standpoint,but atleast dont have batman catch em and lock em up just so they get out and mass murder again

[Soulwind]

are you joking? batflekk straight up murdered like 50 people. if you know batman, thats not batman.

To be fair, there have been Batmans who kill. And an old, broken Batman who kills isn't exactly new either.

My biggest problem with that would be, that it's the wrong Batman to start a cinematic universe with. It'd be more fitting for an independent, solo movie, like Joker. Or a Flashpoint-like sequence in which he's just shown as a possible outcome.

The idea of launching your cinematic universe so far into the life of one of the main characters, that the character is just a shadow of his former self, is just as insane as trying to recreate the Death of Superman on your first movie. Oh, right.

[Dhrizzle]

I hope this is true, I thought Affleck made a great Batman and Bruce Wayne and it's a shame he ended up in such mediocre movies.

are you joking? batflekk straight up murdered like 50 people. if you know batman, thats not batman.

And there's obviously a back-story as to how he ended up like that, possibly hinted at by the Robin suit enshrined in the bat cave covered with Joker graffiti. I'd hope the series would explore that story and my ideal cast would be Matt Damon as Dick Grayson/Nightwing, a Joker of your choice and Jarod Leto as Jason Todd/Robin...

[Surfd]

To be fair, there have been Batmans who kill. And an old, broken Batman who kills isn't exactly new either.

My biggest problem with that would be, that it's the wrong Batman to start a cinematic universe with.

Eh, that version of batman would work PERFECTLY to start a Cinematic universe that immediately segues into a Batman Beyond version of Batman. Old Batman barely keeping it together finally kills someone as a last resort, realizes he has crossed the line, and officially decides to pass the Mantle to a new protege. It allows you to keep grizzled vet Bruce Wayne while having someone of believable age actually do the heavy action hero lifting. Hell, since almost all the other super heroes worth mentioning in the DC universe also have almost bullet proof excuses for why they don't age, you could even keep the same actors in WW/Aquaman/Flash etc if you wanted to and almost nothing would change.

[Soulwind]

Eh, that version of batman would work PERFECTLY to start a Cinematic universe that immediately segues into a Batman Beyond version of Batman. Old Batman barely keeping it together finally kills someone as a last resort, realizes he has crossed the line, and officially decides to pass the Mantle to a new protege. It allows you to keep grizzled vet Bruce Wayne while having someone of believable age actually do the heavy action hero lifting. Hell, since almost all the other super heroes worth mentioning in the DC universe also have almost bullet proof excuses for why they don't age, you could even keep the same actors in WW/Aquaman/Flash etc if you wanted to and almost nothing would change.

Sure, but I very much doubt they were going to do that. They just wanted to make an already edgy character edgier, disregarding why the character is popular in the first place or what would such version of the character need to work.

But, again, none of that is on Affleck's performance.

[Mteq]

meh..

WB should sort something with netflix, they'd both benefit from it. global coverage to compete with disney plus for WB and a solid IP for netflix.

get a batman villain-of-the-week with 1 major overaching story throughout a season typ show on there, similar to what arrow and the flash were. focus on what WB does best (tv shows). you'll get an B or A- actor on there easily enough, especially for a role such as batman. i mean, cavil does the Witcher.

take most of the cast from Gotham (mostly C/B list anyway) and you're done. 13 episodes a season and boom. instant must-see.

why is WB making this all so hard on themselves? don't they own all of their own IPs?

[Dwarfhamster]

I didn't read the OP or read the article, but it's probably only to do specific parts of Snyder's JL movie--voice, etc. The movie already costs a shit load to finish, I doubt they can afford to pay Affleck to do some shoots.

[NihilSustinet]

Sure batman is usualy portrayed as the no kill guy,but that doesnt mean i enjoy that version or agree with it,frank miller's batman is also nice,and i love the darker stories like killing joke,death of a family,the no kill batman is an extremly silly and basicaly a relic of the early campy origins of batman,its not only silly but outright criminal to let people like the joker live time and time again,how many people would batman have saved if he killed the really bad ones?sure comics cant kill their villains from a creative standpoint,but atleast dont have batman catch em and lock em up just so they get out and mass murder again

i am aware that there have been batmans that are willing to kill, but to my knowledge there havent been any that brutally murder every single random thug that they get in a fight with. i also think it didnt match well with this portrayal of wayne, who was still handsome, dashing, charming, refined, despite being a mass murderer when he puts on the suit, if he wants batman to be a depraved murderer, fine, but then wayne has to also be the same, just without a suit on, having it both ways is ridiculous and jarring to watch, to say the least.

[deenman]

i am aware that there have been batmans that are willing to kill, but to my knowledge there havent been any that brutally murder every single random thug that they get in a fight with. i also think it didnt match well with this portrayal of wayne, who was still handsome, dashing, charming, refined, despite being a mass murderer when he puts on the suit, if he wants batman to be a depraved murderer, fine, but then wayne has to also be the same, just without a suit on, having it both ways is ridiculous and jarring to watch, to say the least.

oh yeah i agree,wile i liked his batman,his bruce was on the meh side

[Ausr]

To be fair, there have been Batmans who kill. And an old, broken Batman who kills isn't exactly new either.

My biggest problem with that would be, that it's the wrong Batman to start a cinematic universe with. It'd be more fitting for an independent, solo movie, like Joker. Or a Flashpoint-like sequence in which he's just shown as a possible outcome.

The idea of launching your cinematic universe so far into the life of one of the main characters, that the character is just a shadow of his former self, is just as insane as trying to recreate the Death of Superman on your first movie. Oh, right.

I think he's a great start to a Batman for that universe. The problem is always DC/WB trying to launch things off too quick in trying to match Marvel, truthfully. MoS was an ok start. That's our Ironman movie. Let's jump straight to Civil War. Random villain movie. Now let's get our Thor. Let's go right to the Avengers. Back to Harley for some reason with some birds. Back to Thor.

Didn't even bother trying to set up the Justice League, or at least the big 3 in their own standalones before meshing together. It's weird how their animated movies are really good compared to the live action stuff, though.

[s_bushido]

MoS was an ok start. That's our Ironman movie. Let's jump straight to Civil War. Random villain movie. Now let's get our Thor. Let's go right to the Avengers. Back to Harley for some reason with some birds. Back to Thor.

Didn't even bother trying to set up the Justice League, or at least the big 3 in their own standalones before meshing together. It's weird how their animated movies are really good compared to the live action stuff, though.

They could have jumped right into BvS after MoS just fine. The last thing we really need is another Batman origin story, after all (/sigh at whatever Pattinson is doing). But instead of just sticking to the story about a jaded Batman being enraged at the prospect of these aliens coming down and causing wanton destruction, they decided to do that...AND the Death of Superman...AND Justice League Lite all in the same movie. It was too much, and it was just too poorly handled. Hell, in the hands of better writers, they may have even been able to keep the threat to Martha Kent's life as the tipping for Batman to snap out of the path he was on.

[Kallisto]

he made one good movie once. the rest is all garbage.

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are you joking? batflekk straight up murdered like 50 people. if you know batman, thats not batman.

And the Internet darling Michael Keaton batman killed 50 more. All movie batman has had batman break the no kill code.

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They could have jumped right into BvS after MoS just fine. The last thing we really need is another Batman origin story, after all (/sigh at whatever Pattinson is doing). But instead of just sticking to the story about a jaded Batman being enraged at the prospect of these aliens coming down and causing wanton destruction, they decided to do that...AND the Death of Superman...AND Justice League Lite all in the same movie. It was too much, and it was just too poorly handled. Hell, in the hands of better writers, they may have even been able to keep the threat to Martha Kent's life as the tipping for Batman to snap out of the path he was on.

While I agree we don't need Batman origin story 5628. I do feel BvS should have come after a Batman in this universe movie. Make it a loose adaption of Death in the family. Since in BvS you see the Robin outfit hinting at Jason Todd's death.

Also the batman movie keeps the Bruce going to Metropolis scene. Every bit of it. It really is that good. But the scene is in the middle of the movie where he makes a choice between Jason and his staff in metropolis. Between being Bruce or Batman.

He chose to be Bruce (with a maybe getting Night wing to help track Joker) and not Batman. To save his staff, not Robin. While this happens the Joker kills Jason Todd. Putting more of a personal (yet misplaced.) blame on Superman and Kryptonians. Where if their civil war wasn't on earth, Todd would still be alive.

Then we have BvS, just without Death of Superman arc, which itself deserves its own movie but as no earlier than 3rd solo superman movie.

[NihilSustinet]

And the Internet darling Michael Keaton batman killed 50 more. All movie batman has had batman break the no kill code.

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While I agree we don't need Batman origin story 5628. I do feel BvS should have come after a Batman in this universe movie. Make it a loose adaption of Death in the family. Since in BvS you see the Robin outfit hinting at Jason Todd's death.

Also the batman movie keeps the Bruce going to Metropolis scene. Every bit of it. It really is that good. But the scene is in the middle of the movie where he makes a choice between Jason and his staff in metropolis. Between being Bruce or Batman.

He chose to be Bruce (with a maybe getting Night wing to help track Joker) and not Batman. To save his staff, not Robin. While this happens the Joker kills Jason Todd. Putting more of a personal (yet misplaced.) blame on Superman and Kryptonians. Where if their civil war wasn't on earth, Todd would still be alive.

Then we have BvS, just without Death of Superman arc, which itself deserves its own movie but as no earlier than 3rd solo superman movie.

that may be true about keatons batman, but whataboutism doesnt make batflekk any better.

[Kallisto]

that may be true about keatons batman, but whataboutism doesnt make batflekk any better.

It might not. But if the internet sucks up to Keaton and doesn't cry when he kills people (even though in other media back then Batman had long had his no kill rule) then it means you can't use it against Batfleck either.

[never Lucky]

Affleck said he was done with Batman. He is just doing some reshoots for Snyder's cut, thats it.
His version of Batman was great tho, sadly we wont see anymore.