Genocide On The Border

[Felya]

The moment you illegally cross a border, you forfeit your rights and get your ass kicked. Go through legal channels, apply for a visa and no one will try to genocide you.

Why does this ass kicking, involve stealing children? What does Trump want with all these children? What are they going to do? Feed them to QAnon for immortality? Build a dome around the country, made of tortured children, as a deterrent to child abuse? Save the children, right?

Is this what Trump meant by Mexico will pay for the wall?

[Themius]

Oh my God what is so hard to understand?

The moment you illegally cross a border, you forfeit your rights and get your ass kicked. Go through legal channels, apply for a visa and no one will try to genocide you.

It is LEGAL to present yourself for asylum when you cross. You literally have to be in the country. What the USA is doing is expressly ILLEGAL. But you don’t care because you don’t like those brown people coming from Latin America.

What fantasy world do you live in where there are no human rights??? This has already been settled many many many years ago.

It’s cute how know nothing about law conservatives who claim to be constitutionalist don’t know shit about the constitution. They just pretend things they say are true and make up shit to excuse their disgusting beliefs. Beliefs like people seeking asylum have no rights so sterilising them is cool.

[Grapemask]

Both are human rights violations but no one in their right mind would except Trve Kvlt satanists to treat Christian missionaries with respect.

Trumpsters are getting pretty blatant about how far they think this should go.

[Themius]

Trumpsters are getting pretty blatant about how far they think this should go.

“Brown Latin Americans seeking asylum have no human rights. What’s wrong with mass sterilisation. Frankly it’d be easier to just put them in some sort of chamber and mass kill them. They have no rights so who cares”

Literally we are in a thread shoot the threat and growth of genocide but they can’t help themselves.

[Felya]

Trumpsters are getting pretty blatant about how far they think this should go.

Stealing children in the name of god... I think they got tricked... hint hint...

If you consider Trump is closer to a bitch, than a human... how different are these people from David Berkowitz?

[AeneasBK]

Oh my God what is so hard to understand?

Well... too hard for you, clearly

[zealo]

Oh my God what is so hard to understand?

The moment you illegally cross a border, you forfeit your rights and get your ass kicked. Go through legal channels, apply for a visa and no one will try to genocide you.

It's like coming to a Trve Kvlt Black Metal cross burning party at night dressed as a Christian missionary and expecting to not get stabbed.

Both are human rights violations but no one in their right mind would except Trve Kvlt satanists to treat Christian missionaries with respect.

If you know that doing action x will result in your rights being stripped, just don't do it.

It's incredibly telling you seem to believe crossing a border to apply for asylum equates to deserving being subjected to genocide. "Just don't come here!" is not an excuse that will fly for things like forced sterilizations and separations of children from their families, both of whom hits the check mark for what constitutes a genocide. Being an asylum seeker doesn't strip someone of basic human rights.

[Adam Jensen]

Oh my God what is so hard to understand?

The moment you illegally cross a border, you forfeit your rights and get your ass kicked. Go through legal channels, apply for a visa and no one will try to genocide you.

It's like coming to a Trve Kvlt Black Metal cross burning party at night dressed as a Christian missionary and expecting to not get stabbed.

Both are human rights violations but no one in their right mind would except Trve Kvlt satanists to treat Christian missionaries with respect.

If you know that doing action x will result in your rights being stripped, just don't do it.

Oh my god what part of "human rights" is so hard to understand? Presenting yourself at the border to make an asylum claim IS a legal channel.

[Ivanstone]

It's like coming to a Trve Kvlt Black Metal cross burning party at night dressed as a Christian missionary and expecting to not get stabbed.

Both are human rights violations but no one in their right mind would except Trve Kvlt satanists to treat Christian missionaries with respect.

Sometimes missionaries just need to rock out.

Also the US economy depends on illegal labour. Black Metal parties do not depend on Christian missionary attendance. So your analogy is pretty fucking stupid.

[Gelannerai]

Oh my God what is so hard to understand?

The moment you illegally cross a border, you forfeit your rights and get your ass kicked. Go through legal channels, apply for a visa and no one will try to genocide you.

It's like coming to a Trve Kvlt Black Metal cross burning party at night dressed as a Christian missionary and expecting to not get stabbed.

Both are human rights violations but no one in their right mind would except Trve Kvlt satanists to treat Christian missionaries with respect.

If you know that doing action x will result in your rights being stripped, just don't do it.

Please show me the US laws that outline medical mutilation/experimentation, child abduction, sexual assault, physical/medical neglect, and extrajudicial murder as potential punishments for legally seeking asylum in the US.

[Katchii]

Oh my God what is so hard to understand?

The moment you illegally cross a border, you forfeit your rights and get your ass kicked. Go through legal channels, apply for a visa and no one will try to genocide you.

It's like coming to a Trve Kvlt Black Metal cross burning party at night dressed as a Christian missionary and expecting to not get stabbed.

Both are human rights violations but no one in their right mind would except Trve Kvlt satanists to treat Christian missionaries with respect.

If you know that doing action x will result in your rights being stripped, just don't do it.

The fact that you're OK with human rights violations and victim blaming really just shows what kind of person you are. Please educate yourself on the process for seeking asylum before you embarrass yourself further.

[silveth]

While the whole separating kids And being sketchy about getting them back to there family’s thing is old News it’s still incredibly relevant to this thread with this update.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncn...sion=true&s=09

I do think it's funny that the whole keeping kids separated from the parents thing is laid on Trump, when it was a DEMOCRAT judge that ruled against the Obama administration which forces the government to separate them.

Yes, they separate them to make sure that they are really kin, but it was a court ruling against OBAMA that said they couldn't stay together.

[postman1782]

I do think it's funny that the whole keeping kids separated from the parents thing is laid on Trump, when it was a DEMOCRAT judge that ruled against the Obama administration which forces the government to separate them.

Yes, they separate them to make sure that they are really kin, but it was a court ruling against OBAMA that said they couldn't stay together.

But the policy was made by SESSIONS after Obama stopped doing this shit. CAN YOU TRUMP SUPPORTERS KEEP UP?

[Edge-]

I do think it's funny that the whole keeping kids separated from the parents thing is laid on Trump

It was a Trump policy.

You're here, lying about the children in cages during the surge of unaccompanied minors while the Obama administration tried to get Congress to allocate more funds to handle it.

Stop lying. Just because Obama built cages doesn't mean it's OK that Trump literally ordered the kidnapping of hundreds of children.

[Felya]

I do think it's funny that the whole keeping kids separated from the parents thing is laid on Trump, when it was a DEMOCRAT judge that ruled against the Obama administration which forces the government to separate them.

Yes, they separate them to make sure that they are really kin, but it was a court ruling against OBAMA that said they couldn't stay together.

This is a blatant lie... Trump’s administration, through sessions, removed the provision keeping families together that existed under Obama. Obama’s admin only stopped child trafficking and criminals, while Trump admin separates all children. Where are the children that Obama couldn’t place with families? Where are they? What happened that they exist under a Trump, but not Obama? WTF?

Remember, Trump claims Obama and democrat want open borders... it’s why you voted for the fucking wall. Now it’s Obama that was too harsh? Which way are you willing to accept Trump lying to you, because it can’t be both?

[Lorgar Aurelian]

I do think it's funny that the whole keeping kids separated from the parents thing is laid on Trump, when it was a DEMOCRAT judge that ruled against the Obama administration which forces the government to separate them.

Yes, they separate them to make sure that they are really kin, but it was a court ruling against OBAMA that said they couldn't stay together.

WASHINGTON — In early May 2018, after weeks of phone calls and private meetings, 11 of the president's most senior advisers were called to the White House Situation Room, where they were asked, by a show-of-hands vote, to decide the fate of thousands of migrant parents and their children, according to two officials who were there.

President Donald Trump's senior adviser Stephen Miller led the meeting, and, according to the two officials, he was angry at what he saw as defiance by Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen.

It had been nearly a month since Jeff Sessions, then the attorney general, had launched the Trump administration's "zero tolerance" policy, announcing that every immigrant who crossed the U.S. border illegally would be prosecuted, including parents with small children. But so far, U.S. border agents had not begun separating parents from their children to put the plan into action, and Miller, the architect of the administration's crackdown on undocumented immigrants, was furious about the delay.

Those invited included Sessions, Nielsen, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar and newly installed Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, according to documents obtained by NBC News.

Nielsen told those at the meeting that there were simply not enough resources at DHS, nor at the other agencies that would be involved, to be able to separate parents, prosecute them for crossing the border and return them to their children in a timely manner, according to the two officials who were present. Without a swift process, the children would enter into the custody of Health and Human Services, which was already operating at near capacity.

Two officials involved in the planning of "zero tolerance" said the Justice Department acknowledged on multiple occasions that U.S. attorneys would not be able to prosecute all parents expeditiously, so sending children to HHS was the most likely outcome.

As Nielsen had said repeatedly to other officials in the weeks leading up to the meeting, according to two former officials, the process could get messy and children could get lost in an already clogged system.

Miller saw the separation of families not as an unfortunate byproduct but as a tool to deter more immigration. According to three former officials, he had devised plans that would have separated even more children. Miller, with the support of Sessions, advocated for separating all immigrant families, even those going through civil court proceedings, the former officials said.

While zero tolerance ultimately separated nearly 3,000 children from their parents, what Miller proposed would have separated 25,000 more, including those who legally presented themselves at ports of entry seeking asylum, according to Customs and Border Protection data from May and June 2018.

That plan never came to fruition, in large part because DHS officials had argued it would grind the immigration process to a halt. But after Sessions' announcement that all families entering illegally would be prosecuted, the onus had fallen on DHS to act.

At the meeting, Miller accused anyone opposing zero tolerance of being a lawbreaker and un-American, according to the two officials present.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/imm...grant-n1237416
But Obama right?

[Machismo]

I do think it's funny that the whole keeping kids separated from the parents thing is laid on Trump, when it was a DEMOCRAT judge that ruled against the Obama administration which forces the government to separate them.

Yes, they separate them to make sure that they are really kin, but it was a court ruling against OBAMA that said they couldn't stay together.

You are pushing bullshit.

It was Trump and his administration who even admitted they are deliberately punishing them so as to be a deterrent to others.

Stop defending genocide and ethnic cleansing.

[Felya]

Stop lying. Just because Obama built cages doesn't mean it's OK that Trump literally ordered the kidnapping of hundreds of children.

Reminder, Trump called Obama weak on immigration, it was his main talking point. Build the wall he screamed... Did Trump think Obama’s cages were too weak or what?

[Xyonai]

I do think it's funny that the whole keeping kids separated from the parents thing is laid on Trump, when it was a DEMOCRAT judge that ruled against the Obama administration which forces the government to separate them.

Yes, they separate them to make sure that they are really kin, but it was a court ruling against OBAMA that said they couldn't stay together.

I think it's funny that we need to have this same conversation every ten pages because someone who didn't care to join the discussion before then thinks they're so smart by throwing out a talking point who's merits have been shot for years.

Yes, Obama started these policies for the purpose of taking time to confirm if the kids coming over belonged to the people bringing them over. But so what? Obama's admin isn't the one currently kidnapping children, shoving dozens of border crossers in filthy internment camps, or who's immigration police are sterilizing women under false pretenses. If you cared enough to shift the blame onto Obama then you'd be outraged by this as well, but you aren't. Because, frankly, you and everyone else who posts this same stupid point doesn't actually give a shit about the people being hurt insomuch as they want to feel smug about sharing this bit of trivia as some sort of 'Gotcha!'.

[Themius]

I think it's funny that we need to have this same conversation every ten pages because someone who didn't care to join the discussion before then thinks they're so smart by throwing out a talking point who's merits have been shot for years.

Yes, Obama started these policies for the purpose of taking time to confirm if the kids coming over belonged to the people bringing them over. But so what? Obama's admin isn't the one currently kidnapping children, shoving dozens of border crossers in filthy internment camps, or who's immigration police are sterilizing women under false pretenses. If you cared enough to shift the blame onto Obama then you'd be outraged by this as well, but you aren't. Because, frankly, you and everyone else who posts this same stupid point doesn't actually give a shit about the people being hurt insomuch as they want to feel smug about sharing this bit of trivia as some sort of 'Gotcha!'.

I Love the “Obama built the cages!”

Like okay... but who put the kids in them?!