well the 3rd partis like wowup is not built on getting the information from APIs, they are just web scraping the sites like curseforge getting the addon links or downloading the addon and then putting it in their own database and client.
curseforge is the main database hub for all the addons that the majority of addon creaters upload to.
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Na, their guides to straight into the addon folder and are therefore part of the addon. They try to tell you that their addon is free and you only pay for their guides, but in fact, that's nonsense. Blizzard just can not do anything about it or simply does not care. Either way add-ons behind a paywall exist for a long ass time.
I mean a lot people will believe them because they don't understand a lot of the technical jargon being spoken.
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So the issue with that is there's already people who similarly do that already on twitch, where they require you to be a tier two or three sub in order to get their UI layout or specific Weakauras, this is also technically against Blizzard ToS, but Blizzard has done nothing about it.
It's one thing to be upset about things and that is fine. Note that the below comment isn't in support of either or, but explaining what the post says since it seems it is going over most people's head since they see certain words and start going off the deep end. It's just to elaborate a bit more on what is likely happening.
Simply saying that some authors may or may not want others distributing their addon. Addon authors know when they upload to Curseforge that their addon will be downloaded by people etc. While we know if someone uses a 3rd party addon manager it is likely they are using it to download addons for WoW, but the authors don't know that as with any product malicious stuff could go on.Distribute the authors’ intellectual property without their consent
This is the big one I've seen people cling on to. No one ever said they will be charging anyone for addons. So no they aren't breaking Blizzard's ToS charging money for addons.Prevent us from tracking engagement, and therefore you impact authors’ earnings
What this part means is with their addon they can properly track how many people are downloading the addons. To use a figure to make it easier to understand. Let's say for every download an author receives of their addon from the website or Overwolf's addon manager they get 1 point. Every time someone else scrapes / uses another manager they get 0 points due to how tracking works. Now let's say authors can redeem points for $0.01 for ever point. Now how Overwolf gets this money no one can say but most will likely come from ads / premium packages.
Just like any site there will likely be some premium package that gives advantages. Where it is allowing more than one addon to update at a time, auto update, etc.
This is likely referring to some services hammer / send more requests than they should and also likely references the above where they want to make it so that downloads can be tracked easier allowing authors to earn.There’s a full team working on building and maintaining the CurseForge backend, support, file moderation etc., and you’re using this (and our bandwidth) without consent and against terms of service.
They can't because they would be in violation of Blizzard's ToS. Blizzard will stop them.
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No, they are selling the guide. You aren't buying an addon because you aren't altering the game in any way with it like addons do.
A lot of what they said is not true. The API a lot of addons use is the official Blizzard API, in their words those would be "illegal API". I guess you're just another person who has no idea what they're talking about in this thread. (btw wowup is not an addon so you might want to get your facts straight)
.. It's part of the addon. It's a Lua file loaded by the addon. Literally part/upgrade of it.
It's like creating an empty addon without any text and selling the lua file containing all text for moneys and you are like, ok this is fine because I can download the shell for free.
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You must be trolling. There is no way you are serious with this.
THE API THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT IS FROM CURSE(OVERWOLF NOW) TO DOWNLOAD ADDONS. NOT WHAT ADDONS USE TO ACCESS DATA FROM WOW. Dude what the heck is on with you.
Good thing is Overwolf didn't try to scare any addon developer but 3rd party tools stealing data from their site.
Um...I think you are confusing some things here. The API they are talking about is CurseForge's. It has absolutely nothing to do with Blizzard's API. Blizzard's API is only used by the addons themselves which isn't the thing being scraped/hammered/whatever. Not sure why you think Blizzard's API is involved at all.
Man, clozer on here for six hours straight defending OW. That isn’t suspect at all.
Looked into how generous Curse's rewards program is. Found a thread on Reddit where authors of decently popular (not DBM by any means, but a decent number of daily downloads) were saying they make maybe fifty cents a day in credit, or about $15 a month.
I mean, I guess good that addon creators are making something at all, but let’s not pretend any of these authors are using addon revenue to support themselves. Losing that revenue stream would not affect them in any way.
In fact, if everyone personally gave just a quarter to the author of every addon they used, the authors would likely make about 100 times as much money as they’re getting from curse. They might be able to actually focus on addon creation to support themselves.
But as it is, no. Addon creation is not a job you can "get paid" for. You can almost get beer money for one weekend a month if your addon is pretty popular, but that’s it.
The guide is part of the package of the addon. You are paying for access to certain parts of the addon which is stated to be against the rules by Blizzard. They clearly haven't been enforcing those rules but charging for guides, AH database, or any other part of an addon is against the rules.
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