Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[infinitemeridian]

So are we expecting some sort of announcement at TGA now?

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

So are we expecting some sort of announcement at TGA now?

I doubt this as if Zovaal is supposed to be the end of Book 1. They would probably open the book after it rather than prior to it with TGA announcements.

[huth]

I doubt this as if Zovaal is supposed to be the end of Book 1. They would probably open the book after it rather than prior to it with TGA announcements.

"one book" not "book one".

Still, narratively it would make more sense to have people experience what happens in the game before the announcement spoils things. Especially since it isn't terribly likely that we'll see 10.0 go live before the latter part of next year.

[Ersula]

So are we expecting some sort of announcement at TGA now?

• This is about the time of year they announce a new expansion
• Geoff said they got a ton of last-minute premier trailer submissions for this years awards (right after announcement to cancel feb blizzconline)
• Geoff specifically commenting on Activision Blizzard (although expecting them to reject coverage of Activision products is rediculous, as these kinds of scandals are all over the game industry. Example, some of the people accused of harassment when they worked at Blizzard are now working at Riot, Epic, etc.)

All signs point to yes.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

I mean I just hope this isn't the grand reveal of Destiny 2ing WoW to the point where the Content Patches become $40 packs.

If there's anything please let that not be what this is going to be.

[Hugnomo]

Why are players so infatuated with the idea that WoW is going to be added on consoles? Is it really just because FFXIV did and it kinda worked there? Even being really charitable the two are really different in how they play, and gamepad for WoW is possible only in the sense that its also technically possible to play by not using keybinds.

The supposed gamepad reveals have consistently been just around the corner for years now, and they never materialize, and the reason couldnt be more clear: The game isnt built to support the kind of casual gameplay that a gamepad is built for, but rather being designed around mouse and keyboard.

Maybe if WoW really scaled down the complexity, but the game seems to be readding extraneous stuff that players might want, a gamepad would just complicate these things.

Personally, I've always wanted WoW on consoles. I'm just more of a console player than pc, I prefer to hang back in my couch and play in my big tv, I prefer playing with a controller. I guess it's mostly habit from growing up on consoles.
And I have played WoW quite a lot on a ps4 controller on my tv. It's feasible, but clearly not optimal. I think official support for it could improve on existing addons.
But I understand it's not an easy task at all. The thing I had the most trouble with was typing text, but I'm casual and I was just leveling.

On pc I like using an mmo mouse with 12 buttons on the side, and another on top to add another 12. I only use the keyboard to walk and talk basically. I really like it.
I just don't like having to slouch over in a desk for hours to play WoW after having worked for hours in a desk.

Though I really have no leaning on the rumor. I'll wait and see. Wished they could do it and in an intuitive, good way. But I don't have any expectations.

[shoc]

Personally, I've always wanted WoW on consoles. I'm just more of a console player than pc, I prefer to hang back in my couch and play in my big tv, I prefer playing with a controller. I guess it's mostly habit from growing up on consoles.
And I have played WoW quite a lot on a ps4 controller on my tv. It's feasible, but clearly not optimal. I think official support for it could improve on existing addons.
But I understand it's not an easy task at all. The thing I had the most trouble with was typing text, but I'm casual and I was just leveling.

On pc I like using an mmo mouse with 12 buttons on the side, and another on top to add another 12. I only use the keyboard to walk and talk basically. I really like it.
I just don't like having to slouch over in a desk for hours to play WoW after having worked for hours in a desk.

Though I really have no leaning on the rumor. I'll wait and see. Wished they could do it and in an intuitive, good way. But I don't have any expectations.

Always wished they leaned harder into Action Cam.

[ExiHext]

Well yeah, and with good reason. It's a train-wreck of an expansion.



I never said I was surprised Pikachu. I'm only affirming that 9.2 continues the trend.



Not really. There are frogs and other animals which look slightly robotic. I don't think they look colourful or even remotely interesting. Just lazy. Like, here's a bunch of re-used assets but we made them robotic. Oh and it's totally not just a rehashed Titan creation concept, no no. It's "First Ones tech".



And we should continue getting that. It's the freaking reason the WoW universe is popular in the first place. It's a dumb version of Lord of the Rings, easy to enjoy and get immersed into. If faced with the choice, I'd choose ten versions of Kul Tiras over a bunch of swing-and-miss alien concepts like the Shadowlands.

These developers are standing on the shoulders of giants. The reasons they have jobs in the first place is because they happened to be apprentices at Blizzard when people like Metzen steered the ship. But they have no bloody clue about what makes Warcraft so special, judging by the quality of Shadowlands.

BfA was to a large extent probably mapped out by Tom Chilton and the old gang, by the way. The details were probably developed under Hazzikostas though.

Obviously you are fed up with WoW. Do yourself (and us) a favor and move on. It's not healthy clinging to a toxic relationship.
New World is waiting for you. You can do it!

[Therougetitan]

• This is about the time of year they announce a new expansion
• Geoff said they got a ton of last-minute premier trailer submissions for this years awards (right after announcement to cancel feb blizzconline)
• Geoff specifically commenting on Activision Blizzard (although expecting them to reject coverage of Activision products is rediculous, as these kinds of scandals are all over the game industry. Example, some of the people accused of harassment when they worked at Blizzard are now working at Riot, Epic, etc.)

All signs point to yes.

Game Awards is in 5 days. When Legion was going to be announced in 2015 at Gamescom they posted an official post so people could get hyped up to tune in and watch. They posted this on July 29 and the announcement happened on August 6. If they were going to announce an expansion at the game awards they would have mentioned it by now.

[ExiHext]

https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/st...214347264?s=20
So that's that. No WoW announcements at the game awards, as expected.

[Makabreska]

Come, now. You know at least 70% of the playerbase hates Shadowlands.

And at least 90% of the statistics are made on the spot.

- - - Updated - - -

https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/st...214347264?s=20
So that's that. No WoW announcements at the game awards, as expected.

I really don't see them doing ANY live audience reveals for some time, given the situation.

[Dracullus]

Of course expac reveal there would be bad for several reasons. First, takes away attention from 9.2 which is shaping to be really solid patch, far better that first impression taken from that strange reveal video.

Second, game awards audience is not blizzard/wow audience. It's like showing big NFL news on some football (soccer) event in Europe. Even best 10.0 reveal with all out wishes fulfilled would get more negative than positive reactions.

[Sondrelk]

Always wished they leaned harder into Action Cam.

[video]

I faintly remember the Action Cam was neat, but that it was giving players motion sickness. Might have been why it isnt pushed as hard as it maybe should be.

Would be neat if we got more stuff like it though, not necessarily things that would always be on but ways to make exploring the world more cinematic than it currently is. Not sure what that something would be though.

[Makabreska]

Damn, they went hard on Sylvi during interrogations:

[Sondrelk]

Damn, they went hard on Sylvi during interrogations:

[img]

"Presenting: The Sylvbox."
"All the schizophrenic tone and blatant character assassination in a smaller, more mobile package."

[Raetary]

"Squarevanas Boxrunner, The Geometry Queen"

[Lady Atia]

https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/st...214347264?s=20
So that's that. No WoW announcements at the game awards, as expected.

Wow, they are really hurting the wrong one here. It's not the games fault that the studio had assholes in it ... that's just an example of wrong cancel culture.

[huth]

Wow, they are really hurting the wrong one here. It's not the games fault that the studio had assholes in it ... that's just an example of wrong cancel culture.

I think you're reading a bit much into this.

[Lady Atia]

I think you're reading a bit much into this.

"Incredible games — and the talented developers who build them — are who we want to celebrate." he literally said wow is not incredible enough to be celebrated here lmao.

[Wonderment2]

Wow, they are really hurting the wrong one here. It's not the games fault that the studio had assholes in it ... that's just an example of wrong cancel culture.

No...no it's not