Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Teriz]

Have previous logos featured such minute hints?

Yes. Particularly the Shadowlands logo.

[Teriz]

They're usually themed with the expansion but usually on the more general less specific side though. imo the whole naaru thing is a reach in the first place.

It’s a reach if it’s naaru. It’s not a reach if it’s Titan.

[Nyel]

They're usually themed with the expansion but usually on the more general less specific side though. imo the whole naaru thing is a reach in the first place.

Yeah, that’s a lot of projecting and imagination running wild.

[Raetary]

It’s a reach if it’s naaru. It’s not a reach if it’s Titan.

*snort*

Sure, whatever makes you sleep better at night.

[Hitei]

Have previous logos featured such minute hints?

No, they've also never been so totally unrelated to the name of the expansion.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

But even that's probably a reach its just pareidolia its gonna look like whatever you want it to look like subconsciously or not.

I think it was more deliberate than that. It seems like between some of these details, it does seem as though it's meant to stoke the imagination too much. Shadowlands is little more than wood and skulls. Battle for Azeroth communicates "water and war". There's far too much in this single logo for me to think it wasn't made to stoke speculation, especially given it was posted here with no sources other than "discord".

[Teriz]

*snort*

Sure, whatever makes you sleep better at night.

Why is that so out of bounds in possibility? Its a thematic that ties dragons and the void together.

[Soulwind]

No expansion has mixed three different themes into its logo. It's anti-aesthetic and unintuitive for newcomers.

A name like "Empire of Dragons" would require a more traditional artstyle, probably wooden or natural themed.

An expansion about the Naaru and/or the Void would have a different name, period.

That doesn't mean that either of those expansions couldn't feature the other things, but they wouldn't all be combined in the logo. Battle for Azeroth was ultimately about Old Gods, but the logo was war-themed to match the name and first patch.

[TheFirstOnes]

You guys DO realize we have 5 more Zereth's to actually...go to, right? Light and Shadow's not gonna happen for a bit...

So, calm your shit people.

[huth]

You guys DO realize we have 5 more Zereth's to actually...go to, right? Light and Shadow's not gonna happen for a bit...

So, calm your shit people.

I mean, Light/Void could easily play into that, but that still leaves 3 others.

[Archmage Xaxxas]

It’s a reach if it’s naaru. It’s not a reach if it’s Titan.

Just following this trend, what would you say about the comparison of how Titan-y the EoD logo appears vs how Titan-y First Ones aesthetics appear?

I'd say the EoD is far less, but of course then it's interesting we're lead to believe TFO's are indeed separate from The Titans. (We'll see, lol.)

Idk, I get Goriona vibes from Dragon Soul when I saw this logo.
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Goriona

The Naaru comparisons with their similar shapes to something like Xera are at least visually comparable to something we have seen (Lending credence to it being fake, I'd say), are probably a better lead than the forced 'must be a type of titan tech we haven't seen yet, like when they did that in 8.0' line of thinking.

It's gilding is fine fan art, but I will wonder what happened (who they lost maybe) with that part of the art department if it somehow is the real deal.
Why is it so chalky/brushstroke/painterly in comparison to even the clearly painted Shadowlands gilding? I've tried to see if it's just over-exposed for some reason, but I don't think so, and why would it be? it's a digital leak.

[Nyel]

No expansion has mixed three different themes into its logo. It's anti-aesthetic and unintuitive for newcomers.

A name like "Empire of Dragons" would require a more traditional artstyle, probably wooden or natural themed.

An expansion about the Naaru and/or the Void would have a different name, period.

That doesn't mean that either of those expansions couldn't feature the other things, but they wouldn't all be combined in the logo. Battle for Azeroth was ultimately about Old Gods, but the logo was war-themed to match the name and first patch.

Void Dragons exist and have been very present in the past. Xalatath is somewhere.

Would be easy to create an Empire of villainous void dragons and tie it to the Void in general.

[Hitei]

But that's what I said. It does illicit something but I mean that it's still pareidolia because everyone is seeing something different from it. Like I said it just makes me think it's gonna be an elf, dragon, and void heavy expansion. Its just something that clearly doesnt illicit anything in particular but it does give off a certain vibe.

But that's also part of why I think its fake. It gives off a Blizzard vibe but its not anything in particular where as every other lego instantly gives you a specific theme vibe.

Yes, exactly.

It is a reasonably high basic production quality, but then utterly fails on the basic design principles that are always very strong in wow logos.

[Nyel]

You guys DO realize we have 5 more Zereth's to actually...go to, right? Light and Shadow's not gonna happen for a bit...

So, calm your shit people.

Pretty much we never will. That’s just another part of lore that’s brought up but will never come to fruition. And honestly, who wants to visit five other Zereths? We‘re going to Zereth Mortis and the others will be forgotten in the long run, maybe mentioned once or twice.

[Sondrelk]

Pretty much we never will. That’s just another part of lore that’s brought up but will never come to fruition. And honestly, who wants to visit five other Zereths? We‘re going to Zereth Mortis and the others will be forgotten in the long run, maybe mentioned once or twice.

I would have loved if we went to a Zereth that has already been overtaken and become a stronghold.
Sadly Zereth Mortis seems to imply that once they get there they win, but learning for instance that the Void Lords used Zereth Umbra to create the Old Gods or generally just increase their numbers would have been such a neat plot development.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

No expansion has mixed three different themes into its logo. It's anti-aesthetic and unintuitive for newcomers.

A name like "Empire of Dragons" would require a more traditional artstyle, probably wooden or natural themed.

An expansion about the Naaru and/or the Void would have a different name, period.

That doesn't mean that either of those expansions couldn't feature the other things, but they wouldn't all be combined in the logo. Battle for Azeroth was ultimately about Old Gods, but the logo was war-themed to match the name and first patch.

Yeah Blizz likes the name/logo to be very concise. It's either based on the primary threat (BC, Wrath, Legion), the location we're going to (MoP, WoD, SL), or some major event attached to the expansion (Cata, BFA).

Empire of Dragons satisfies far as I can tell none of that. It looks like a void expansion which you'd only know if you dissected the logo.

[Nyel]

Yeah like every expansion logo is iconic when you see it you just know. Even like the Shadowlands logo felt right when it got leaked.

It's a really high quality fake probably one of the best we've ever got but it's definitely fake.

Pretty sure we cannot say that it’s definitely fake.

[Edward Wu]

You guys DO realize we have 5 more Zereth's to actually...go to, right? Light and Shadow's not gonna happen for a bit...

So, calm your shit people.

Fuck your Zereths. I'm not going.

[Nyel]

Yeah Blizz likes the name/logo to be very concise. It's either based on the primary threat (BC, Wrath, Legion), the location we're going to (MoP, WoD, SL), or some major event attached to the expansion (Cata, BFA).

Empire of Dragons satisfies far as I can tell none of that. It looks like a void expansion which you'd only know if you dissected the logo.

I think the name leaves enough room for speculation. We already have an Empire in the game, The Black Empire. This could be the reference the name is coming from. And many of the Old God servants do have Empires, too. Trolls do have Empires as well, iirc. So it’s not too far fetched.

I find Warlords of Draenor to be as unspecific. We had no idea who the warlords are before Blizzard announced them.

[Revamp Man]

Well, yes. That's what I'm saying. It seems odd there's so much to analyze there from the logo alone—it does seem awfully convenient that it's so excessively detailed with these little hints towards the qualities of the next expansion that it could spawn so much discussion.

To be fair though it’s just the border that caused discussion over the things in it being
Titan tech
Dragon horns
Elven armor
Naaru pieces