Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Nyel]

“A lot of the lore doesn’t affect anyone here except the Shadowlands”

What the fuck are you talking about?

Nobody cares what's happening there. It seems to be compeltely irrelevant. The Covenants are fighting each other while the Jailer is going on, how much of a threat can he be? Or are the Covenants just completely idiotic?

That Blizzard says it matters for everybody doesn't mean you feel that. And you basically feel nothing in that regard. The threat isn't real.

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

Looks like there's Sylvanus testing on Thursday.

[Varodoc]

Nobody cares what's happening there. It seems to be compeltely irrelevant. The Covenants are fighting each other while the Jailer is going on, how much of a threat can he be? Or are the Covenants just completely idiotic?

That Blizzard says it matters for everybody doesn't mean you feel that. And you basically feel nothing in that regard. The threat isn't real.

I agree, no matter how big the Janitor's explosions are or how high his "OMG BOUNDLESS LETS GOOOO!!!!" power level is, the Janitor will never feel threatening. He's pretty much a filler villain like the Iron Horde.

In fact right now 99% of the people don't care about the Jailer, they care about Sylvanas' fate. Let's be real.

[KOUNTERPARTS]

Yeah I agree. Deathwing felt like a real threat, that with him flying all over the globe in the cinematic and pre-patch. Meanwhile the Janitor can't even leave his bathroom at Torghast.

And yet he's seen, quite literally in the intro experience of Shadowlands, being outside of Torghast throwing Baine off a cliff and taunting the players at the waystone.



If you are going to troll everybody with snarkiness and disingenuous responses, try to at least pretend to have some semblance of honesty behind it.

Nobody cares what's happening there. It seems to be compeltely irrelevant. The Covenants are fighting each other while the Jailer is going on, how much of a threat can he be? Or are the Covenants just completely idiotic?

That Blizzard says it matters for everybody doesn't mean you feel that. And you basically feel nothing in that regard. The threat isn't real.

This comes off as a byproduct of not everything happening being optimally represented in-game. A long the same lines in 'Legion' where the story was the entire planet was being invaded by the Burning Legion ("largest Legion invasion ever") yet all we saw was it happening on the Broken Isles.

[Cosmic Janitor]

Absolutely. Sure, 4.3 was awful, but as a villain he was great. Better than any endboss after him. He was constantly present, the Twilight dragonflight stuff was amazing and he was just an intimidating, omnipresent villain. The Jailer... don't get me started.

What? He was only present in the revised questing of old content and towards the very end in the endtime dungeons. Before that he was completely absent for max level characters and all the actual plot was driven by rando twilight hammer rubes that somehow managed to outwit every faction. The only known capacities were cho'gall and nef. The firelands story was a complete sidetrack to deal with some nelf lore before we then did some time travel stuff to get rid of DW, who was never involved in any of the schemes during the expansion. In fact the twilight hammer used him like a rabid dog and as we've learned his ultimate purpose was to end up impaled on top of wyrmrest temple.

[nvaelz]

Shadowlands was released seven months ago..... still no date 9.1 and they need to present new expansion this year. They're in deep ass

Why would they move things along when their tokenfarming scheme is going so well in the current meta? It's low cost high reward.

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

Shadowlands was released seven months ago..... still no date 9.1 and they need to present new expansion this year. They're in deep ass

6 months ago to be exact.

[TheFirstOnes]

Sylvanas testing in 2 days

[KOUNTERPARTS]

Looks like there's Sylvanus testing on Thursday.

Sylvanas testing in 2 days

3 days before this coming Sunday will be Sylvanas testing.

[TheFirstOnes]

So, we now know why the Jailer got imprisoned...

He saw the Sigils as keys for the Sepulcher and tried to take them.

That’s...shit we already knew. So, the Jailer’s a douchebag. Got it.

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Judging by what we know...

The new raid is supposedly gonna end with The Heroes Vs Sylvanas and the Eternal Ones with their new Sigils Vs the Jailer and the old Sigils

Even with the new sigils and the Primus backing us up, I don’t think it’ll be enough.

[bagina]

So, we now know why the Jailer got imprisoned...

He saw the Sigils as keys for the Sepulcher and tried to take them.

That’s...shit we already knew. So, the Jailer’s a douchebag. Got it.

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Judging by what we know...

The new raid is supposedly gonna end with The Heroes Vs Sylvanas and the Eternal Ones with their new Sigils Vs the Jailer and the old Sigils

Even with the new sigils and the Primus backing us up, I don’t think it’ll be enough.

This is such a garbage non-answer... Expected nothing less from Blizzard. How about the writers tell me what he wanted the sigils for, at the very least?
No? I have to wait 3 months to find out? Okay.

[Revamp Man]

So if the eternal ones were all given sigils for their covenants does that mean the jailer has one??

Does the arbiter have his sigil??

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Well we finally get sylvanas testing
We get multiple mythic bosses
The third wing

Mid June release seems more likely

[rainhard]

Are those sigils really that special when they can nearly instantly be remade?

[therumblings]

Are those sigils really that special when they can nearly instantly be remade?

Yeah, that's pretty pathetic honestly. I thought the sigils would act as one of a kind artifacts each Eternal One held in order to keep the Jailer in the Maw and unlock the Sepulcher.

[Makorus]

This is such a garbage non-answer... Expected nothing less from Blizzard. How about the writers tell me what he wanted the sigils for, at the very least?
No? I have to wait 3 months to find out? Okay.

Man, one of the worst takes in this thread so far.

"Why do they not tell me everything about the story now!"

[Raetary]

How about the writers tell me what he wanted the sigils for, at the very least?
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Erm, they did.

The sigils open the way to the Sepulcher.
He wants them to get there so he can juice up on whatever power that place has.

[Sondrelk]

Man, one of the worst takes in this thread so far.

"Why do they not tell me everything about the story now!"

We don't need to know everything, but we need to know more than we do. This is the first major content patch, we are in theory halfway through the expansion and we still don't know much of anthing interesting about the Jailer.

The Jailer as it stands is just a generic villain who just stands there doing nothing of interest. He doesnt have an interesting personality, he doesnt have an interesting backstory, he doesnt do anything particularly interesting in the game. His only interesting points are that he is a focal point for more interesting characters to gather around, people like Sylvanas or Helya.

[Nyel]

Are those sigils really that special when they can nearly instantly be remade?

Guess they're as special as the Jailer aka not special at all.

If you can reforge something so easily and effortlessly, what even was the initial purpose?

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The Jailer as it stands is just a generic villain who just stands there doing nothing of interest. He doesnt have an interesting personality, he doesnt have an interesting backstory, he doesnt do anything particularly interesting in the game. His only interesting points are that he is a focal point for more interesting characters to gather around, people like Sylvanas or Helya.

This. They try to paint him super powerful, mysterious and intriguing by making him the centerpiece of so many previous lore-tie-ins (Lich King stuff for example) yet they fail to make him leave any impression. It's beyond me how they came up with such a bland and ultra-boring villain.

[Alanar]

Except she literally cannot harm the Jailer, and it's stated by Ion verbatim that WE'RE the main characters of WoW, and due to our experienced from the past, etc, we should be the major factors in defeating these powerful characters. Why do you think BFA ended the way it did? Or why we did so much against the Legion and Sargeras during...well...Legion?

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You can say it's not that cool. Hell, I agree. But to say it isn't big lore-wise or to say it's not about the Jailer is kinda dumb, no offense or anything like that.

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What do you mean? We only heard of him like this expansion. He doesnt have alot of built up and he is realy hollow. So its hard to care for him or finding him cool when there is nothing realy to dig. 9.1 like i said offers some story, but its realy not much. Thinking otherwise makes you delussional, I get that he is supposed to be this big character, but Its hard to view him that way. Hes.. just there.

Its okey to like him.. but dont force people to like him I guess.

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its not even a joke
the moment people start pointing out that she has become garrosh 2.0
"well its not really the same and she cares about her people"
she calls her people nothing
"well its all a part of her plan"
shows that she is working for the enemy of everything
"she made a deal with him in legion for her people"
she literally serves him
"well its part of her plan"
she tries to keep us from stopping him from destroying everything
"well its maybe only a part of her soul"

I mean you kinda think the joke was real looking at your response.

It started there.. remember the person who compiled the pictures together making the guy seem like he had a hard on for sylvanss and nathanos. From there came the whole thing. I dont care for danuser, but its its not realy true.

[Wangming]

Guess they're as special as the Jailer aka not special at all.

If you can reforge something so easily and effortlessly, what even was the initial purpose?

Or why didn't they keep spare keys somewhere hidden? Honestly as I log into FFXIV I sigh and feel sorry for those who exclusively play WoW. Waiting months for THIS?