Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Hellspawn]

Yes to that. And to the female version:

It would need higher resolution textures which probably already exist also some of the armored parts should be actually 3D models...

[ZyntosAran]

Looks like someone posted a self-proclaimed "high effort leak" on /r/wow, lol.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...h_effort_fake/

I feel like the people making these logos have completely missed the memo on how the logos have actually been getting more and more elaborate after WoD. No one is going to buy into a logo that looks like it belongs in 2007.

"will provide an all new leveling experience" - continues to explain the exact system they introduced in shadowlands
"new character customization" - with pictures without new char customization

apart from the text being just...no and the logo being a fucking joke

Oh, and it says "buy now" and "available now" - it would say "preorder now"

[Raetary]

It's literally just the Shadowlands page but shopped to be green and flowery.

[maplesyrupgl]

I know 2 times doesn't make a pattern, but I'm certain I've figured out Blizz's planned expansion pattern.

Step 1 = More terrestrial expansion that acts to set up a bridge to the next cosmic expansion
Step 2 = A cosmic expansion where we take out the "ultimate" threat of one of the cosmic forces

- WoD might not have seemed like a "terrestrial" expansion, since we went to a different planet/universe/timeline/whatever, but thematically it was. The theme of the expansion was simple: war against a big angry army with weapons. But it really served to set up Gul'dan, who was our bridge to Legion.

- Legion was the ultimate face off vs the Legion and Sargeras, the biggest threat of the Chaos cosmic force.

- BfA was a terrestrial expansion with a seemingly simple them: a war between the alliance and horde. Now, Nzoth might seem like a cosmic threat, but Blizzard clearly think of Old Gods as a terrestrial threat. The ultimate cosmic threat of Darkness is the Voidlords. This explains why Nzoth was killed in a single patch, Blizzard don't see him as a big deal compared to what's to come. BfA actually served to set up Sylvanas, who was our bridge to Shadowlands.

- Shadowlands was the ultimate face off vs the Jailer, the biggest threat of the Death cosmic force.

The next logical step is that the next expansion is a simpler terrestrial threat expansion that will set up a character who will lead us to a cosmic expansion where we take on the ultimate threat of a different cosmic force. I think they'll leave void for last, so my best bet is Light. I think we'll get Dragon Isles next expansion, but during the course of the expansion maybe Turalyon will turn into a foe, or Yrel will show up, something will lead us into the expansion after where we fight the ultimate threat of Light, whomever that may be. (evil Naaru? or some shit they pull out their ass like the Jailer?)

[Varodoc]

You know, I might actually fall for that reddit leak if the artwork of the new zone wasn't a shameless artwork of the Hanamura map from Overwatch, seen from the building where the Capture Point A is located. Redditors are always so thorough in their analysis, what a disappointment to fall for such a cheap mistake.

[Jekyll]

Strange that they decided to make heritage weapons before every race got armor. Especially since it's perfect time for Undead/Nelf Heritage from story perspective.

They didn't HAVE to make the weapon models for 9.2.5. It was already in-game but wasn't attainable.

[Shadochi]

im all for them make more appearance assets already in the game or that they developed available to player, bonus if they add a small quest chain to it. In SL I felt there was a small amount of quests lines that werent part of a campaign and thus felt like a grind (par ZM which has plenty of side quest lines).

Sure I would like to see them add the remaining heritage but if they are putting art development hours into something else this is ok as well.

As for the NElf heritage armor, while that NPC armor (from BfA?) is a good base, I think its a bit too basic for players. Keep much of it like it is but add some more optional armor pieces in nelf style.

For the remaining races I guess its a bit of a case that there is already a lot of armor in many of those races style in the recent few expacs that are still good quality so they might have issues pulling it off.
Human - Arathi Warfront sets.
NElf - Darkshore Warfront.
Draenei - (a bit of a stretch) a lot of the WoD armor is Draenei themed

Orc - Arathi Warfront sets
Undead - Darkshore Warfront sets
Troll - BfA armor

Pandaren - a lot of Monk sets in general share the same style

If yo were to even just look at the icons on the playable races page its a bit harder to distinct which races don't have a heritage armor
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/game/races

[ZyntosAran]

Fuck I want a battlemage class or spec so bad. I know Enhance is kind of close but it doesnt match the aesthetic or fantasy at all.

Battlemage, Chronomancer and Spellbreaker are my classes / specs that would make me fall in love with wow a second time.

[8bithamster]

The funniest part about this meme is that you can reverse the roles and it's just as accurate if not more so.

Found the Tinker in that comic (Joking ofcourse)

[ercarp]

Found the Tinker in that comic (Joking ofcourse)

Nah, I don't really care that much about Tinkers. But based on some of the discussions I've seen around here, it often seems like the ones making fun of pro-Tinkers are the ones that are the most triggered. I don't really get it personally... I feel like people should be allowed to speculate on whatever class they want without being ridiculed or starting a pointless flame war that goes on for 30 pages.

[Kokolums]

whats interesting bout the recycled raids idea is the way it makes me think. i thought SOD was a garbage raid and it was so bad i just skipped 9.1 completely to avoid it. im looking at 9.2 and SFO looks ok so im considering investing some time in it. but now blizz is threatening to bring back SOD with a "season" where all raids are relevant again. That makes me very irritated that i could be forced to play SOD in the future, so I immediately feel the urge to skip the season thing. It ALSO gives me the urge to skip SFO because if i get into the game again, i have SOD hanging over me at some point as something that will force me to quit again.

So NOW my mental state is "lets skip everything until 10.0 to avoid SOD". Seasons wrecked my interest in SFO in a roundabout way. and even then, im worried recycled raids will exist in 10.0 and SOD will STILL be relevant, making me skip 10.x lol.

its like recycled raids might be the worst idea in the history of wow because now i cant skip a raid i hate. it will always be there eternally. so i might actually quit wow for good.

[Makorus]

How was SOD a garbage raid?

Tbh sounds like you didn't even play it.

[Kokolums]

How was SOD a garbage raid?

Tbh sounds like you didn't even play it.

personal taste.

i cant be the only one thinking this way. everyone has a raid they hate, regardless of reason. and by recycling all raids, it could drive away players because theyd rather quit than endure a raid they despise.

[ercarp]

personal taste.

i cant be the only one thinking this way. everyone has a raid they hate, regardless of reason. and by recycling all raids, it could drive away players because theyd rather quit than endure a raid they despise.

I hated every single raid in BfA (except maybe Ny'alotha) and I have zero plans to touch any of the raids in SL simply because I don't like the setting/theme of the expansion and I want to forget about it completely when we move on to 10.0.

[Shadochi]

I hated every single raid in BfA (except maybe Ny'alotha) and I have zero plans to touch any of the raids in SL simply because I don't like the setting/theme of the expansion and I want to forget about it completely when we move on to 10.0.

Honestly in BfA i only disliked Uldir and the 2 boss raid. I found the other ones fun. Dazar Alor is one of the top for me, for Nyalotha a lot of it came down to playing around corruption, and Eternal Palace I just found interesting and vibrant.
But everyone has a taste and way they rate raids.

[Raetary]

personal taste.

i cant be the only one thinking this way. everyone has a raid they hate, regardless of reason. and by recycling all raids, it could drive away players because theyd rather quit than endure a raid they despise.

They'll drive players away for forcing them to run a raid by... making us able to choose which raid we want to run.

Right.
Sure.

[Sondrelk]

They'll drive players away for forcing them to run a raid by... making us able to choose which raid we want to run.

Right.
Sure.

I guess you could stretch by arguing that it heavily promotes running older raids for overturned gear even when it's not necessarily a well designed encounter like Sylvanas with her 13 minute long fight.

[Nymrohd]

Morgan Day mentioned in his recent interview with Warcraft Radio that they've heard "loud and clear" that people don't want dom shards to be relevant in Season 4. Which, like, fair, the helm+shoulders+chest slots would already conflict heavily with tier and would have made gearing a nightmare to manage between juggling 3 dom shards for that set+4 piece set of tier+your two legendaries

Also I suspect alpha/beta will be starting earlier, using the time between announcement and release of previous expacs to estimate 10.0's release needs to factor in that previously, expacs have always been announced at big conventions (blizzcon/gamescom), whereas now Blizzard is taking the Nintendo Direct approach of just announcing it whenever they feel like it. If things were still how they had been, we'd have had 10.0 announced back in November of last year, or February at the latest with Blizzconline. I wouldn't be surprised at all if we get an alpha before the end of May

Truth be told, they could have created items that let you slap a frost/blood/unholy domination socket.

[Kokolums]

They'll drive players away for forcing them to run a raid by... making us able to choose which raid we want to run.

Right.
Sure.

uh, my guild would choose, not me. so id reasonably expect to be forced into SOD. id rather not raid at all and quit.

[Cherry123]

there is booming news about PTR 9.2.5?