Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Wangming]

I almost always choose leveling in Vashj'ir over Hyjal. I adore those (mini) zones.

High five!

[Nymrohd]

Evil dragons, Knaifu who took over the Titan facility, reanimated Galakrond.
I mean, don't we expect this to be a breather expansion that reconnects us whit what should be about? Fighting the Bad Army of Light coming from AU Draenor does not really sound like that.

Knaifu WAS impressed with Galakrond and suggested it was the Old Gods' work.

[Gloriandus]

Like trash leading to bosses in raids, Blizzard's expansion features tend to give us a preview of what they'll do (or continue) in the follow-up expansion. That said, I can see them, as many have mentioned, extending the idea of "choose a covenant" into "choose a dragonflight".

However, if ANY player power is attached to dragonflight choice -- say I main a Ret Paladin and prefer the cosmetics/collectibles of the Blue flight, but the special ability of the Bronze flight is "ideal" (read: required for optimal gameplay) for a Ret Paladin -- I'm out. Similarly, if there is ANY form of AP/anima -- call it Aspect Power, Alexstrasza Power, whatever -- I'm 90% sure I'm out.

Fingers crossed that the "Dragonflight" leak from February posted here is true and it's all cosmetic...but there's plenty of precedent with Blizzard's design choices to think that's not likely.

[ercarp]

Do somebody recognize the „logo“ or „Seneca“

Of all the Seneca logos I can find on Google, it looks the most similar to the "Seneca Nation of Indians" logo, but that doesn't really make any sense.



Doubt that would actually tell us anything about the validity of the leak though. And I don't wanna accidentally doxx anyone.

[ZyntosAran]

Like trash leading to bosses in raids, Blizzard's expansion features tend to give us a preview of what they'll do (or continue) in the follow-up expansion. That said, I can see them, as many have mentioned, extending the idea of "choose a covenant" into "choose a dragonflight".

However, if ANY player power is attached to your dragonflight choice -- say I main a Ret Paladin and prefer the cosmetics/collectibles of the Blue flight, but the special ability of the Bronze flight is "ideal" (read: required for optimal gameplay) for a Ret Paladin -- I'm out. Similarly, if there is ANY form of AP/anima -- call it Aspect Power, Alexstrasza Power, whatever -- I'm 90% sure I'm out.

I am 99% Sure they will not attach player power (or any borrowed power) to a system like this ever again after the backslash they got from SL. But a "collect ressource A for buying cosmetics, empowering non-player power systems" like we had with AP, anima and cyphers we will get with every expansion going forward I assume.

[Cosmic Janitor]

Honestly the games that manage to pull time travel or the afterlife well (not even great, well) are likely less than a dozen. Thinking they could pull it off in an MMORPG that is extremely challenging narratively is either the height of arrogance or just further proof that to the majority of the team the story is a minor concern and all they care is about EPIC theme park.

Yea true.. but I think the MMO part isn't even the most limiting factor. It's being an MMO with little to no means of conveying story that makes this an insurmountable task. You could maybe pull it off in a game that has a decent story focus like SW:TOR or FFXIV, but when you tell 90% of your story in a total of less than 2h of cutscenes for a whole expansion, while questing is overwhelmingly just busy work with a few voice lines here or there, then pulling off these kind of stories is.. challenging, to say the least.

But I fully agree, across all media the franchises that managed to pull off time travel are few and far between, doing something engaging with the afterlife is probably even rarer. Messing with divine realms depends a bit on how you set up your cosmology. You average asian comic can probably incorporate it better, since it goes with the classical sense of divine beings constantly messing with mortals out of boredom, it works less if you have them as an actual gods that cba to be around for 99.9% of the time and suddenly you give them high fives while mowing their lawn for colored gear rewards.

[ZyntosAran]

Of all the Seneca logos I can find on Google, it looks the most similar to the "Seneca Nation of Indians" logo, but that doesn't really make any sense.



Doubt that would actually tell us anything about the validity of the leak though. And I don't wanna accidentally doxx anyone.

Yeah, I dont think we will get any information on the expansion by persuing this lead other then probably doxxing the leaker, so lets not persue this more.

[Syegfryed]

This appears to be a completely original art piece, so if it is fake, it would have to one of the more expensive fakes as I imagine a painting of this quality wouldn't be cheap to commission.



Furthermore, there are DNS certificates for the domain dragonflight.blizzard.com, as reported on the front page of MMOC.

Yeah ,its suspicious, the art is looking very good, it sure could be a fanart but seems very expensive for a throw away gag, unless, it was something already done and the person amde a mix. The art seems like shadowlands stuff with bolvar if you ask me.

Apart from the art, you have Alextrasza, we all know Danuser, and after Sylvanas is out they need another main girl... She also seems to have a different armor that is not showing much skin, which totally go with the "new blizzard" way of handling female characters.

The logo is weird, but shadowlands logo was already weird to me, so i guess they are going this way, but the name is garbage. Unless someone do a reverse search to see if the image was old i think this is it.

[draugril]

I almost always choose leveling in Vashj'ir over Hyjal. I adore those (mini) zones.

It was fun, ambitious, and novel.

All the things the WoW playerbase hates most!

[Marlamin]

Question not directly related to this discussion, but did anyone actually see the new Hillsbrad skybox themselves outside of the person that posted it in this thread?

[ZyntosAran]

The logo is weird, but shadowlands logo was already weird to me, so i guess they are going this way, but the name is garbage. Unless someone do a reverse search to see if the image was old i think this is it.

What is off is mostly that the Exp name does not have a backgraphic. But Thats not the first time blizzard is doing it (Classic and Classic BC also does not have backgraphics for the exp name / Classic text). And the name is basically 100% true (unless the code does use a abbreviated form of the real name and its supposed to be something like "Rise of the Dragonflight" or "Return of the Dragonflight"

[huth]

Yeah, I dont think we will get any information on the expansion by persuing this lead other then probably doxxing the leaker, so lets not persue this more.

Yeah, i don't think this has anything to do with WoW. Probably not even Blizzard.

[Gloriandus]

Of all the Seneca logos I can find on Google, it looks the most similar to the "Seneca Nation of Indians" logo, but that doesn't really make any sense.

Seems that desk might be used by someone who does color grading/inking, based on stuff on the wall and what's lying around. The logo kind of reminds me of an art magazine or somesuch.

[dope_danny]

Boy i can't imagine just how badly Danuser is going to deal with Alexstraza after having to vault his waifu.

[ercarp]

Question not directly related to this discussion, but did anyone actually see the new Hillsbrad skybox themselves outside of the person that posted it in this thread?

If it was something on the PTR, nope.

[UndedoKoleda]

A bit of an off-topic, but do all new threads have to be approved by moderators now? I'm trying to create thread with a poll about what people consider the best expansion name(from already released expansions, meaning without Dragonflight in the options) and it just doesn't show up...

[Fahrad Wagner]

Question not directly related to this discussion, but did anyone actually see the new Hillsbrad skybox themselves outside of the person that posted it in this thread?

I did. You had to fly into specific areas, mainly south of that forsaken facility in Hillsbrad. The skybox would remain and turn green as you fly to Southshore, and then gradually revert back to the old skybox. So yes, the new skybox was real and I vouch for it!

[Wangming]

Knaifu WAS impressed with Galakrond and suggested it was the Old Gods' work.

See? If it fits, it fits.

[Fahrad Wagner]

A bit of an off-topic, but do all new threads have to be approved by moderators now? I'm trying to create thread with a poll about what people consider the best expansion name(from already released expansions, meaning without Dragonflight in the options) and it just doesn't show up...

Threads with polls take longer to be posted.

[Baedril]

Question not directly related to this discussion, but did anyone actually see the new Hillsbrad skybox themselves outside of the person that posted it in this thread?

Nope, but coming from Arathi on PTR(I assume on live as well) I can get this screenshot from the (almost) same angle, with the Arathi sky still there - are we sure it's not night time/evening Arathi skybox?