Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Santandame]

Also going again over the Dragonflight leak, it's interesting that you can quite easily match the order halls to one of the zones with the Dragon Isles as endgame zone/continent were all of them come together:



Silver Hand Campaign would focus on resolving the Lordaeron problems. Uncrowned would be in Undermine, the Black Harvest would help clear out the proto Demons on Balor, Valarjar could lead an expedition into Uldaz and the Kirin Tor could help with Quel'Thalas since Vereesa is still leading their Silver Covenant.

But why not bring back every class order hall?

It doesn't make sense to leave out the rest.

[Izalla]

Honestly not mentioning living world when we already knew it was a thing and have no fram of reference on if it actually matters or not should be a point in its corner imo.

No way to know for sure until the reveal unless something else leaks, but just the fact that so many people have been predicting so many of these the story and zone things and an entirely different poster even came up with the name "Dragonflight" in a thread about guessing the expac's name back in January... I just don't think that leak is real and there is a lot about it I really don't like so I'm sure I'm biased to see evidence against it rather than for it.

[TheFirstOnes]

They're quite charming/touching in the weirdest way, aren't they? Like a fox pretending to be a squirrel, and thinking putting on a squirrel onesie is enough.



I'm afraid to ask, what's that?

5 Headed Dragon. HEAVILY rare in Fantasy, like Tiamat from D&D. Basically it's what Chromatus is.

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Also, Chromatus is supposed to be TERRIFYINGLY HUGE!

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Considering all the dragons were de-powered, I would assume the idea of a dragon xpac would be to start a NEW dragonflight and help power it up to defend Azeroth. We go on quests to gather resources to donate to the new flight, run raids to help carve out a niche for it, etc.

Or we basically obtain Dragon power and become something akin to the new Aspects Vs Chromatus or whatever?

[SniperCT]

My big tinfoil theory right now is that Elune is a dragon herself, the leader of a new dragonflight that's white (which is what you get when you mix all other colors of light), and the one who created the dragonflights.

I also think Galakrond may have been her consort in times of yore and that the black dragonflight actually descended from Galakrond instead of Elune.

The dragons also came from the Moon. Yep. Yes.

Damn it.

I really like this idea.

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I still think a system were we could level one (or more) extra class (minus dh/dk for lore reasons) and/or micro class on a single character similiar to FFXIV could work against the risk. With that no leveling in 10.0 would also make sense as the new leveling content would be for your new class instead.

That... could work. A sort of hybrid system, where there are still race/class restrictions but within those restrictions you can have multiple classes per character (with some exceptions, like DK+Paladin being a no, etc)

Then over time they could loosen those restrictions.

[ercarp]

Damn it.

I really like this idea.

It's good to see I'm not the only one on board the Elune Is A Dragon tinfoil train. There are dozens of us!

[Izalla]

No, we don't in respect of this. Assassination and Sub could be rolled into one spec/theme. Outlaw is fine as it is. A third spec for a Rogue could and would ideally be a tank based Rogue centered around evasion, or a Bard as a healer/dps hybrid.

Fire Mage isn't really necessary either as I feel like Destro Warlock fits the same theme and aesthetic. So for Mage instead of Fire, we could have Chronomancer as a healer, or a Blood Mage as a healer.

As someone whose favourite mage spec is fire, please take this idea and just bury it away where it cannot see the light of day!

[SniperCT]

I think it would be a great way to actually deliver on all the mystery behind Elune's identity instead of demoting her to "sister of a Covenant leader we will never see again", which is what they tried to do in SL.

How would you go wrong with making her into a Lunar Dragon Goddess that created the dragonflights? I think it would be cool imo.

Damn it it's amazing

[Benedict Donald]

No way to know for sure until the reveal unless something else leaks, but just the fact that so many people have been predicting so many of these the story and zone things and an entirely different poster even came up with the name "Dragonflight" in a thread about guessing the expac's name back in January... I just don't think that leak is real and there is a lot about it I really don't like so I'm sure I'm biased to see evidence against it rather than for it.

What makes me really suspicious about that "leak" is that two of the micro classes were recently mocked in the April Fools joke. Would they ever add something from April Fools? Sure, they did with Pandaren, but this soon? Pandaren came many years after the April Fools about them. Coming a few weeks after the joke, like in this case, seems a lot less likely.

[Lady Atia]

But why not bring back every class order hall?

It doesn't make sense to leave out the rest.

Well the leak says you can choose which campaign you want to do (first?), and the main critique point of Legion's class halls was that they were locked to just one class. DK's just got Shadowlands (although they didn't do much sadly, but technically the Ebon Blade was active in both Korthia and Zereth Mortis/Sepulcher), Priests are also easily represented with the Silver Hand, DH's can work together with the Black Harvest. Only Druids/Shamans/Monks have no good representation but than again, we just got Ardenweald and they may be our guides in potential future lifelands / elemental plains content.

[SniperCT]

As someone whose favourite mage spec is fire, please take this idea and just bury it away where it cannot see the light of day!

Agreed, I always go fire on my mage lol

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It's good to see I'm not the only one on board the Elune Is A Dragon tinfoil train. There are dozens of us!

Listen, Eorzea might be my home now but Azeroth and Elune in particular will always be a pull for me and the Lunar Dragonflight sounds REALLY cool

...huh no wonder I was really into certain plot elements in endwalker lmao

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Well the leak says you can choose which campaign you want to do (first?), and the main critique point of Legion's class halls was that they were locked to just one class. DK's just got Shadowlands (although they didn't do much sadly, but technically the Ebon Blade was active in both Korthia and Zereth Mortis/Sepulcher), Priests are also easily represented with the Silver Hand, DH's can work together with the Black Harvest. Only Druids/Shamans/Monks have no good representation but than again, we just got Ardenweald and they may be our guides in potential future lifelands / elemental plains content.

As long as I can pick up one, finish it, and immediately move onto the next without losing any progression or power or having to wait to do any cooldowns, I'm cool with story campaigns.

[Santandame]

Well the leak says you can choose which campaign you want to do (first?), and the main critique point of Legion's class halls was that they were locked to just one class. DK's just got Shadowlands (although they didn't do much sadly, but technically the Ebon Blade was active in both Korthia and Zereth Mortis/Sepulcher), Priests are also easily represented with the Silver Hand, DH's can work together with the Black Harvest. Only Druids/Shamans/Monks have no good representation but than again, we just got Ardenweald and they may be our guides in potential future lifelands / elemental plains content.

I suppose so. There's just the potential risk of alienating players of the classes that aren't being represented. There's also the issue of why are the newly introduced micro classes not seemingly having their own order hall esque factions playing a role?

The more I think about it, out of all the zones from this alleged leak, Balor is the one that's interesting me the most. Previously it was the one I was least interested in.

[ercarp]

I mean I like that idea except Elune is WQs sister so she's a much higher level of being than a Dragon. So she can't be one at minimum she's one of the constructs of the first ones.

I don't think having the form of a dragon should necessarily mean that she's somehow of a lower level.

Also there has been some speculation that Elune may not be literally the Winter Queen's sister, but even if she was, I don't think that's quite enough to break my tinfoil theory yet.

In my mind, Elune can still be a creation of the First Ones while also being the originator of the dragonflights herself. I don't see anything that contradicts it.

Granted, my understanding of the First Ones' lore is a bit iffy as I kind of stopped caring about that bit of the story at some point.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

I mean I like that idea except Elune is WQs sister so she's a much higher level of being than a Dragon. So she can't be one at minimum she's one of the constructs of the first ones.

It could be that Life deities are sort of a superior incarnation of Wild Gods, with Elune being the Super-Wild God from which Proto-Drakes emerged. I much prefer the surreal owl-creature that has been suggested, however, and I much more heavily associate Elune with Owls.

[SniperCT]

It could be that Life deities are sort of a superior incarnation of Wild Gods, with Elune being the Super-Wild God from which Proto-Drakes emerged. I much prefer the surreal owl-creature that has been suggested, however, and I much more heavily associate Elune with Owls.

so leaked elune model

[Varodoc]

So I'm surprised no one here has mentioned this yet: If Xal'atath is revealed to be an Old God, don't people here realize the enormous implications of this? It means that, for the first time, a Deity took the form of a mortal, but above all else, the form of Void elf. There's never been another instance of Divinity given mortal form, and the fact that the Deity choose a Void elf body is also very significant.

[ercarp]

so leaked elune model

Found some leaked artwork of Elune's dragon form too:

[Raetary]

Yogg says hello.

[Syegfryed]

So I'm surprised no one here has mentioned this yet: If Xal'atath is revealed to be an Old God, don't people here realize the enormous implications of this? It means that, for the first time, a Deity took the form of a mortal, but above all else, the form of Void elf. There's never been another instance of Divinity given mortal form, and the fact that the Deity choose a Void elf body is also very significant.

rly, tune down, its difficulty to even read this kind of thing.

Yog assumed the form of a vrykul woman and old gods are not "deities"

[Vakir]

rly, tune down, its difficulty to even read this kind of thing.

Yog assumed the form of a vrykul woman and old gods are not "deities"

Yogg says hello.

Don't engage with them.

[Catastrophy349]

Dragon life!