Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Nymrohd]

See the stupid logic I'm seeing in this thread is people are under the assumption Mon to Fri is still a working norm, these days there are people who work weekends and working in a 24/7 365 business myself there's ALWAYS people on shift incase the shit hit the fan, Thinking an IT business only does Mon to Fri 9til 5 is purely naive.

Yeah but usually people work weekends either due to crunch or as maintenance right? I've worked plenty of weekends and even 80 hour weeks because there was work to be done (heck I almost always work a few hours every Sunday simply because it is the right time for what I need to do).

[8bithamster]

See the stupid logic I'm seeing in this thread is people are under the assumption Mon to Fri is still a working norm, these days there are people who work weekends and working in a 24/7 365 business myself there's ALWAYS people on shift incase the shit hit the fan, Thinking an IT business only does Mon to Fri 9til 5 is purely naive.

And nobody said that.. If you ever worked for longer than a day in it. You'd know that releasing or starting a test on Friday is considered bad practice.
This is pure common sense. Not a "ehmagetd 24/7 bruh!"

Troubleshooting and fixing costs a lot more in weekends, because generally the employer contracts pay more for weekend work. Less people are available etc etc etc.

Downtime and money are a thing.


I know copium and hopium are strong here. But let's stay realistic.

[towelliee]

Holy copium hopium batman

[Catastrophy349]

Holy copium hopium batman

Yup! Welcome to the chat! You’ve been telling us for months when it will start and no one trusted you! I got your back. Everyone is just excited!

[Raetary]

Holy copium hopium batman

Spill your secrets old man.

[Catastrophy349]

No Alpha for viewer pleasure this week. Have a great weekend. Next week gonna be sick!

[Marlamin]

See the stupid logic I'm seeing in this thread is people are under the assumption Mon to Fri is still a working norm, these days there are people who work weekends and working in a 24/7 365 business myself there's ALWAYS people on shift incase the shit hit the fan, Thinking an IT business only does Mon to Fri 9til 5 is purely naive.

The staff on call/working at Blizzard (which is what we're talking about in this topic, not "the norm") in weekends or 24/7 are there for live ops and don't generally cover PTR/Alpha/Beta tests, and in the capacity that they do (monitoring or taking action when stuff is actively going wrong or ruining things outside of testing), they don't cover actually launching Alphas or anything like that unless Zorbrix or one of the producers decides to work overtime.

[Catastrophy349]

Here’s what is funny to me: We’ve known about the start of Dragonflight Alpha for over a month now.
Taliesan told us the 14th of July.
Marlamin took off work next week.
Stiven from wowhead comes back from vacation for next week.
Towelliee’s prediction is for the 14th of July.

Next week is gonna be lit!

[Marlamin]

Marlamin took off work next week.

I swear that was 100% a gamble.

[Kiria]

And nobody said that.. If you ever worked for longer than a day in it. You'd know that releasing or starting a test on Friday is considered bad practice.
This is pure common sense. Not a "ehmagetd 24/7 bruh!"

Troubleshooting and fixing costs a lot more in weekends, because generally the employer contracts pay more for weekend work. Less people are available etc etc etc.

Downtime and money are a thing.


I know copium and hopium are strong here. But let's stay realistic.

I work as a IBM I Engineer which is an Ops job, and I know for a fact as I work the shifts all over the week/end myself that things can still go on over a weekend including downtimes maintenance and new system builds/upgrades.

The staff on call/working at Blizzard (which is what we're talking about in this topic, not "the norm") in weekends or 24/7 are there for live ops and don't generally cover PTR/Alpha/Beta tests, and in the capacity that they do (monitoring or taking action when stuff is actively going wrong or ruining things outside of testing), they don't cover actually launching Alphas or anything like that unless Zorbrix or one of the producers decides to work overtime.

Similar to what I do but there is always a Dev team member available on call should things go wrong with what we do.

[Catastrophy349]

I don’t know…but someone’s got to keep the copium alive!

[Marlamin]

Similar to what I do but there is always a Dev team member available on call should things go wrong with what we do.

I guess I personally (and based on history) just don't see a full Friday launch happening, for example, devs like seeing people progress through content and stuff and having that initial wave happen over the weekend/outside of working hours just kinda sucks. I'm sure they can pull it off if they wanted to, I just don't think they want to.

[Nyel]

No Alpha for viewer pleasure this week. Have a great weekend. Next week gonna be sick!

No no no, today's the day. I still can feel it.

[Lahis]

See the stupid logic I'm seeing in this thread is people are under the assumption Mon to Fri is still a working norm, these days there are people who work weekends and working in a 24/7 365 business myself there's ALWAYS people on shift incase the shit hit the fan, Thinking an IT business only does Mon to Fri 9til 5 is purely naive.

The 247 support crew is not the ones who decide when to push the builds.

And those who do decide it, would rather be in work when it happens.

[8bithamster]

I work as a IBM I Engineer which is an Ops job, and I know for a fact as I work the shifts all over the week/end myself that things can still go on over a weekend including downtimes maintenance and new system builds/upgrades.




Similar to what I do but there is always a Dev team member available on call should things go wrong with what we do.

"There's always stuff going on"
"THere's just a person on call"

It's either/or.. not both.

No sane company will perform maintenance in the weekend unless it's not possible otherwise. And guess what? For an alpha it's perfectly possible!

[huth]

"There's always stuff going on"
"THere's just a person on call"

It's either/or.. not both.

No sane company will perform maintenance in the weekend unless it's not possible otherwise. And guess what? For an alpha it's perfectly possible!

They didn't say "just a person on call". They said "always at least a person on call".

[Hitei]

Spill your secrets old man.

"It will be here soon, or maybe later than that."
"It's gonna have <changes> so if you were asking for <changes> you'll probably be happy"
There you go. Literally the only two things he ever says.

[Makorus]

Man, stop debating with the guy who said "Oh, don't rule out the 4th of July, because Blizzard has offices outside of America, stop being so America-centric"

Yes, technically they can release a patch on Saturday Midnight.

Practically, they have no reason to do that.

[sandini]

to change the topic a bit:
What do you expect to be play and testable in the first alpha built?
I hope all class talents and the professions will be in early on so it can get tested and itterated on rather early than too late.

[Catastrophy349]

I think class talents and professions will be a major testing ground initially.