1. #65521
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    Besides that, Malfurion never really did anything anyways and now he can chill in Ardenweald. He will prolly be back in the cosmic expansion together with Sylvanas, and he may have learned a few new tricks by than. Also, poor Illidan I bet now he would like to leave that Seat of the Pantheon lol.

    Edit: Oh also, yeah sure, having emotions makes one a little girl. I will be gladly stay a little girl forever, thank you.
    Think they should've just killed him in Darkshore, resulting in the same outcome, but at least something happened instead of squabbles not amounting to much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugnomo View Post
    For any who might want to read it:
    (I don't have alpha, I cannot confirm if it's real or not, so grain of salt and all that)
    https://www.reddit.com/r/warcraftlor...t_elf_leaders/
    Hah. I was sure that Merithra would be sacrificed to resurrect Ysera, but since nobody cares for her that wouldn't have been impactful enough.

    Time to fuck over Night Elves some more.

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  3. #65523
    Why can't we just have... Merithra lead the green Dragonflight, Ysera stay in the shadowlands where she's completely fine and content with, and no one has to die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    Why can't we just have... Merithra lead the green Dragonflight, Ysera stay in the shadowlands where she's completely fine and content with, and no one has to die.
    Exactly, let a new generation take over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Exactly, let a new generation take over.
    They can pretty much write her from a blank slate because she's barely had any lore around her other than being in Ahn Qiraj and in BFA for a quest or two.

  6. #65526
    Quote Originally Posted by RenTheCat View Post
    So you're only celebrating because a female character comes back to life, a male character dies, and you get to self insert as Tyrande? How... shallow.
    What in the woke BS is this :’) I think most people are fine with it because he’s been completely underused as a character since WC3 and practically turned into a joke/meme the last few times he’s been used within a story. It’s best they retire him for a while honestly.

  7. #65527
    This comment in the sub post pretty much explains my feelings on the matter.

    F for people who wanted Merithra development.

    Also F for people who liked Malfurion?

    F for people who almost saw both Malfurion and Tyrande to exit at the same time?

    F for people who thought they wouldn't bring back Ysera one patch after she said she was bound to the Shadowlands. As if that meant something.
    Except the Tyrande part though, I don't want her going anywhere.

  8. #65528
    I personally like that Ysera might be back. I like the whole theme of death/rebirth that is exclusive to beings of nature/emerald dream/ardenweald.
    I also would like to be given a chance to see these characters develop and have bigger stories. All too often, side characters in wow have their 15 minutes before they're shelved or killed off and we never get a chance to get some meat on the character. I would rather build on top of Ysera's established character, than having to go back to square one and develop Merithra from the ground up.


    That being said, I do think that this feels a bit like yet another blow to the night elves, who are already pretty battered at this point. They better be getting an incredible world tree and all the goodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    This comment in the sub post pretty much explains my feelings on the matter.



    Except the Tyrande part though, I don't want her going anywhere.
    I mean I would not mind if later in WoW Tyrande and Malfurion made a last stand somewhere as long as we had build up on other characters to take over like Shandris and Jarod.

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    Also why does the green flight need Ysera? Can new characters never get some emancipation? Merithra had a story arc in BfA and she was clearly trying to take her mother's place

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugnomo View Post
    That being said, I do think that this feels a bit like yet another blow to the night elves, who are already pretty battered at this point. They better be getting an incredible world tree and all the goodies.
    Bet the seed is going to be the MacGuffin that gets to be used to restore Ysera's Aspect power.

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    With Malfurion gone.. somehow Illidan has returned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Bet the seed is going to be the MacGuffin that gets to be used to restore Ysera's Aspect power.
    Maybe! I was under the impression that that role was already filled by the oathstones in each zone.
    I think it's definitely the seed for the new world tree. Which will probably have to be blessed by the aspects, as they usually are. It would be really cool to see all the aspects involved and creating a massive world tree overnight, with all the nature and life magics from alex and ysera, plus nozdormu can just speed up time on it for it to grow rapidly. Considering it has the powers of both Elune/emerald dream and Winter queen/Ardenweald, maybe it'll have a deeper connection to both these realms. Maybe we will see night elves adopt winter queen worship in addition to Elune.

  13. #65533
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    YEah this is so stupid. Let's fuck up with Tyrande some more.
    Moulding Tyrande into a future villain.

  14. #65534
    Quote Originally Posted by Feali View Post
    With Malfurion gone.. somehow Illidan has returned.
    Illidan lands on Azeroth.
    Illidan winks at Tyrande.
    Tyrande sighs.

  15. #65535
    Quote Originally Posted by Manu9 View Post
    Illidan lands on Azeroth.
    Illidan winks at Tyrande.
    Tyrande sighs.
    Dem spiky teeth is deffo no go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugnomo View Post
    Maybe! I was under the impression that that role was already filled by the oathstones in each zone.
    I think it's definitely the seed for the new world tree. Which will probably have to be blessed by the aspects, as they usually are. It would be really cool to see all the aspects involved and creating a massive world tree overnight, with all the nature and life magics from alex and ysera, plus nozdormu can just speed up time on it for it to grow rapidly. Considering it has the powers of both Elune/emerald dream and Winter queen/Ardenweald, maybe it'll have a deeper connection to both these realms. Maybe we will see night elves adopt winter queen worship in addition to Elune.
    They can always bullshit up some excuse like "the Green Oathstone is out of power, we need to recharge it" to dump the seed on it.

  17. #65537
    I won't pretend to care too much that Malf is kicking the bucket if this chat is real. He should've died over in Darkshore and not have Sylvanas and Sadfang suffer a 40 IQ drop only to end up doing nothing except continue digging plot sinkholes with his extreme power level as he has for 20 years. That said, scene's pretty wooden and like much of DF is mostly an exercise to backtrack hard on the Dragon changes that were mostly for the better in deemphasizing their role in Warcraft.
    Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.

    Tinkers will be the next Class confirmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    Why can't we just have... Merithra lead the green Dragonflight, Ysera stay in the shadowlands where she's completely fine and content with, and no one has to die.
    Because turning Merithra into a proper character takes time and effort, why spend all those resources doing that when you can just kill another nelf character and bring back Ysera?



  19. #65539
    Wait, so when did Ysera sacrifice herself for Malfurion?

  20. #65540
    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Wait, so when did Ysera sacrifice herself for Malfurion?
    Never. She just happened to have died during Malfurion's rescue from Xavius. Wasn't a sacrifice at all. It's pretty far fetched.

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