Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[EbaumsTipster]

That won't be till May. They got to announce the next expansion before February at the latest or else WoW is dead forever.

If 10.0 really is a huge revamp/reboot they can afford to sit on their hands a bit because more people will come back regardless, outside of something like WW3 breaking out in that time between expansions.

[Rezzyk]

Still no info about PTR?

Ion said "in a few weeks" in one of the interviews released today. So yeah probably after Thanksgiving

[Fahrad Wagner]

Ohhhhh we've got the anti-revamp using their brand new *cough* and shiny *cough* word left and right, next few weeks are gonna be fun. :] Copium this copium that.

On another, more cheerful note, I look forward to discovering how the whole Cypher of the First Ones will work! And to know more about their lore as well-

[Chickat]

where is this background from? hmm

Almost looks like remastered icecrown or storm peaks mountain.

[TomatoBisque]

Ion said "in a few weeks" in one of the interviews released today. So yeah probably after Thanksgiving

the interview was posted today, but when did it actually take place?

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Almost looks like remastered icecrown or storm peaks mountain.

It's not Icecrown or Storm Peaks, those mountains are way too short and there's nothing in the background.

I honestly think this is just a little set they made for this and the snow isn't a tease of anything, it's just because Blizzard.

[Khaza-R]

The implication seems to be The First One created Death and it didn’t exist before then, though this may be a lie. Though we get to see 3D printed prototypes of the Eternal Ones as a raid boss (no joke) so they created apparently everything in SL.

Interesting. I guess we will have to see how the encounter with Zovaal goes to know more.

I'm not entirely convinced the Arathi and Darkshore revamps were that taxing. The Warfronts, IIRC, were developed by like two guys as a side-project. They probably had some help building the actual zones, of course.

As long as they design these new zones to be fairly empty of content it's fine. It's all about building them. And I think they've been doing it for years.

Of course it depends on the scope of the project. Azeroth needs more than just a facelift. Look at Hyjal compared to Highmountain. The topography of the old world needs more than just some graphical re-touches to bring it up to 2021 standards.

That said, they just treated as a visual update they could probably get it done with a lot less efforts. While there's a ton of vanilla zones most just re-use the same assets with different textures. But I am not sure that's really want fans want to see.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Ohhhhh we've got the anti-revamp using their brand new *cough* and shiny *cough* word left and right, next few weeks are gonna be fun. :] Copium this copium that.

On another, more cheerful note, I look forward to discovering how the whole Cypher of the First Ones will work! And to know more about their lore as well-

I think the most damning thing for the anti-revamp crowd at this point is the revamped human buildings. The easy answer for anti-revamping before this was "well at some point we'll go back to Icecrown or Dragonblight." Now we know that isn't the case.

Those buildings are almost certainly now relevant to the next expansion, and that puts a revamp much higher on the list unless we can come up with a new place that Stormwind-style architecture would fit.

[Makabreska]

No need to gaslight me and lie just because you are being a mad hype pr machine, bud, i clearly laid arguments for it

Here i removed even the trigger word for you, if you missed it:

Yes yes, you see the truth and we are all payed shills. I really wonder why you people activate always during big announcements? Are you all so annoyed that others may be excited for the game?

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Didnt you guys did exactly the same thing when uthers tomb was updated in bfa?

I mean Uther's Tomb was used the exact way it was always going to be used. It revamped the original tomb. I know some people tried to read a deaper meaning into it during the runup to Shadowlands but that's neither here nor there.

Though now we have basically the makings of a new Goldshire. A barn, an inn, and generic houses. Just dropping those in the current Elwynn is possible, but doing only Elwynn would just be weird.

Frankly we're staring down either Stormwind buildings being relevant to our new continent, or a large-scale revamp at least of the enviromental doodads if not the quests.

[huth]

I am bit confused by this line but its probably just because of the wording.

Zereth Mortis exists for the sole purpose of creating "the Afterlife", all of it. Shadowlands was fashioned there along with many things of the strength of Death that we have yet to discover.

Does this mean of the Shadowlands is artificial and not the "real" realm of Death?

It's pretty much been stated that the First Ones created the entire cosmos of WarCraft, so of course they also created the Shadowlands. The only notable point here is that Zereth Mortis is apparently a still active factory for afterlives.

[Ersula]

I think it'll be probably in that March/April window, so maybe before HoF closes totally but it'll definitely not be anytime before all the Beautiful Guilds are done.

But why would they do that? Typically they reveal the name, pre-order & teaser for the next expansion before the last patch is even on the PTR

[Varodoc]

Starting from the fact that a World Revamp is happening, even if a World Revamp wasn't happening I still hope they update at the very least the two capitals, Stormwind and Orgrimmar, and bring them to the same level of quality that Suramar, Boralus, and Dazar'alor have (which put the so-called """"Eternal City"""" to shame).

Since Stormwind and Orgrimmar are the main hubs in the game they should be regularly updated in textures and graphics, since you spend so much time in them, and this hasn't happened since 2010...

[Marlamin]

the interview was posted today, but when did it actually take place?

Monday 8th November

[Chickat]

It wasn’t “cut short” if it was always planned to be a short expansion.

I agree, I think it was always planned to be like this, however I think they originally intended for it to only last around 18 to 20 months. The pandemic pushed their timetable back 4 to 6 months. Early summer 2022 was their original estimate for 10.0, but now it's going to be more like November/December 2022.

[Makabreska]

Im sry are you just second hand offended or why are you quoting me going on a schizophrenic rant? If you have an counterargument than make it instead of playing the victim in a conversation you are not part of.
You can be excited as much as you want btw. i just think a world revamp is not happening. Is your enjoyment calculated by how much you delude yourself in an echo chamber? Try maybe drugs and discord?

Ye, dunno. Is your hatred towards the game tied to how much others may be excited about it's future? Because your genuinely angry and aggressive talk here reveals that, despite what you claim. And I can be a part of any conversations here as I see fit pal, as I joined this one now.

[Ersula]

I agree, I think it was always planned to be like this, however I think they originally intended for it to only last around 18 to 20 months. The pandemic pushed their timetable back 4 to 6 months. Early summer 2022 was their original estimate for 10.0, but now it's going to be more like November/December 2022.

They. Don't. Plan. Short. Expansions.

Every expansion has a 22-25 month lifespan. If it's closer to 22 months that just means development went well & they can't plan for that.

[TomatoBisque]

Monday 8th November

well seeya in a month

[Nyel]

But why would they do that? Typically they reveal the name, pre-order & teaser for the next expansion before the last patch is even on the PTR

I already quoted you on this several hours ago: this is not true. I don’t know where you get this from, it’s at least not based on the last 10 years of retail.

We got 4.3 in December (the PTR was up way earlier though) and MoP announcement in October.

We got 5.4 in September and the WoD announcement in November.

We got 6.2 in June and the Legion announcement in August.

We got 7.3 in August and the BfA announcement in November.

We got 8.3 in January (reveal was in October though) and the Shadowlands announcement in November.

[Fahrad Wagner]

No need to gaslight me and lie just because you are being a mad hype pr machine, bud, i clearly laid arguments for it

Here i removed even the trigger word for you, if you missed it:

Pretty funny throwing the word gaslighting after "stating" that there was absolutely no evidence pointing at a world revamp, ignoring the countless assets being revamped over the years, some of those never used, and the continuous effort to update/cover all creature models present on old school Azeroth. A world revamp is far from being guaranteed, but saying there is absolutely no evidence for it is ridiculous.