Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Khaza-R]

Yeah, we had new dragons each and every expansion:
- Vanilla: Chromatic Dragons
- TBC: Nether Dragons, Inifnite Dragons
- WtoLK: Proto-dragons, Twilight Dragons
- Cata: Stone Dragons, Storm Dragons
- MoP: Cloud Serpents
- WoD: Fey Dragons
- Legion: Storm Dragons, Nightmare Dragons
- BfA: Void Dragons
- Shadowlands: Feathered Dragons

So it's not crazy to think they could add new kinds of dragons, like, Sea Dragons, Light Dragons, or whatever they want.

Night Dragons.

Probably somehow related to Elune's darker powers.

[pacotaco]

I read that people made a remark about the shine coming from the letters in the EoD logo. What if it is a still from an animation, I could see some light animation coming from the letters. I am not claiming it to be true though, just a thought I had.

It could explain the rays on the bottom frame and the starry effect on the WarCraft letters.

[Teriz]

People think that looks like a Night Elf bow?

[Varodoc]

That name makes as much sense as Shadowlands, Warlords of Draenor or Mists of Pandaria made sense.

By the way, going "inside" Azeroth which supposedly is a (female) sleeping Titan will not be a thing due to various reasons.

How do those names not make sense?

"Shadowlands" is self-explanatory, the expansion takes place in the realm known as Shadowlands.

"Warlords of Draenor" refers to the main villains of the expansion, the Warlords of the world "Draenor" who formed the Iron Horde.

"Mists of Pandaria" refers to the magical mists that surrounded Pandaria for 10000 years, the expansion happens because of their disappearance.

"Empire of Dragons" doesn't make sense, unless the dragons randomly decide to start an empire.

Which is out of character for them because, in case you didn't know, empires are built on conquest and bloodshed. By definition, an empire is a collection of conquered kingdoms. I don't see Alexstrasza and co. randomly starting to conquer people. That would certainly make them no better than their nemesis N'Zoth.

[MabusGaming]

Not sure why everyone keeps debating the empire of dragons logo. The person who posted it continues to read this thread and hasn't said a word about it since they posted it. Was also the first and only source of the image. Just put it to rest already lol

[Fahrad Wagner]

I can smell some high elf vibes here.

Highborne for me!

[Sondrelk]

People think that looks like a Night Elf bow?

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I mean, yeah?
It looks like wood with stylized pieces of organic metal shapes.
There are afterall elven bows with even more metal pieces.

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Not sure why everyone keeps debating the empire of dragons logo. The person who posted it continues to read this thread and hasn't said a word about it since they posted it. Was also the first and only source of the image. Just put it to rest already lol

Because we are not arguing whether it's real. That debate is basically pointless given we have absolutely no reason to assume it is.
The debate is whether it could have the potential to be real. Would anyone be surprised if it ended up being real, which is a debate worth having given the Shadowlands logo was leaked way back, and it looked even more fake than this.

[Edward Wu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snjZylsqGPo

This looks great. 1000x better than the awful Unreal Engine renders of "next-gen" WoW zones.

[AngerFork]

How do those names not make sense?

"Shadowlands" is self-explanatory, the expansion takes place in the realm known as Shadowlands.

"Warlords of Draenor" refers to the main villains of the expansion, the Warlords of the world "Draenor" who formed the Iron Horde.

"Mists of Pandaria" refers to the magical mists that surrounded Pandaria for 10000 years, the expansion happens because of their disappearance.

"Empire of Dragons" doesn't make sense, unless the dragons randomly decide to start an empire.

Which is out of character for them because, in case you didn't know, empires are built on conquest and bloodshed. By definition, an empire is a collection of conquered kingdoms. I don't see Alexstrasza and co. randomly starting to conquer people. That would certainly make them no better than their nemesis N'Zoth.

You sure on that definition? Merriam Webster within it's multitude of definitions for Empire (source) lists one definition as "a major political unit having a territory of great extent or a number of territories or peoples under a single sovereign authority." While empires have largely in history been due to conquered kingdoms, it isn't necessarily a requirement. To a certain extent, the Iron Horde could be considered to be an empire run by Grommash even though he did not conquer the other clans.

To have an empire, all the dragons would need to do would be to follow a single sovereign authority and act as one. There are plenty who could fit the bill to lead such an empire...perhaps a single flight takes leadership, or perhaps a Titan returns and gives new instructions to the dragonflights. We might find a lost leadership setup in the Dragon Isles, who knows what might've happened there? We may not currently know of a dragon empire, but we didn't understand what the mists were for Mists of Pandaria until we discovered more of the story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snjZylsqGPo

This looks great. 1000x better than the awful Unreal Engine renders of "next-gen" WoW zones.

Agreed. It fits the art style of WoW much better for obvious reasons & would likely work in the current game as opposed to the Unreal Engine shaders/textures which would likely limit the amount of lower end PCs that could play WoW.

[Marlamin]

You know we're deep into the drought when someone takes out the Merriam-Webster.

[Teriz]

Not sure why everyone keeps debating the empire of dragons logo. The person who posted it continues to read this thread and hasn't said a word about it since they posted it. Was also the first and only source of the image. Just put it to rest already lol

I thought it was originally posted on 4chan?

[Makorus]

Empire of Dragons is fake because it's such a comically bad name that there is no way that Blizzard would think of anything bad like that.

[Fahrad Wagner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snjZylsqGPo

This looks great. 1000x better than the awful Unreal Engine renders of "next-gen" WoW zones.

The tree density is off, but the rest is just great. And that music... it instantly takes you back, doesn't it?

[Teriz]

I mean, yeah?
It looks like wood with stylized pieces of organic metal shapes.
There are afterall elven bows with even more metal pieces.

I would very much like to see ANY traditional elven bow resemble anything close to that. Again, if you look at the edges of all WoW logos, it's curved sides always resembled bows on some level. Obviously when we got a sleeker logo, that resemblance would increase.

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Empire of Dragons is fake because it's such a comically bad name that there is no way that Blizzard would think of anything bad like that.

Don't people always think this when the expansion name is leaked?

[Zelk]

Someone on reddit said it looks like the Sapphire Skyblazer. I don't necessarily agree with that take but I can see the elven elements perhaps people see in the bow.



It would be pretty funny if this ends up being another expansions themed around elves.

when have we ever had an expansion themed around elves?

[Sondrelk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snjZylsqGPo

This looks great. 1000x better than the awful Unreal Engine renders of "next-gen" WoW zones.

Imagine if all the zones got this level of update, then got filled with dailies, world quests, rares and treasures, and we then got an open world heroic gamemode of sorts that made the entire world relevant

Just something that needed you to travel from Elwynn to Booty Bay without flying mounts, teleports or flightmasters could be such a journey compared to the barren version we have now where landmarks just disappear beneath you.

[Kiivar86]

I thought it was originally posted on 4chan?

I quoted the post earlier (at least the earliest I could find) saying it was from some discord.

[Sondrelk]

The tree density is off, but the rest is just great. And that music... it instantly takes you back, doesn't it?

Honestly I just found it slightly amusing how this fan rendition of Elwynn had too few trees, making it seem more open than it should, whereas the revamped Arathi Highlands got too many trees, making it seem less open than it should have.

Maybe the Alliance landscaping guild took all the trees missing from this Elwynn into Arathi.

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I quoted the post earlier (at least the earliest I could find) saying it was from some discord.

It was on a discord that claimed to have found it on 4chan.

[Makorus]

I would very much like to see ANY traditional elven bow resemble anything close to that. Again, if you look at the edges of all WoW logos, it's curved sides always resembled bows on some level. Obviously when we got a sleeker logo, that resemblance would increase.

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Don't people always think this when the expansion name is leaked?

The only expansion name people thought was bad was Battle for Azeroth, simply because it sounded generic as fuck. But in hindsight that name is great.

Empire of Dragons looks like someone wanted to have both elements of "Black Empire" and also "Dragons" in the name but didn't wanna use more than one braincell.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Empire of Dragons is fake because it's such a comically bad name that there is no way that Blizzard would think of anything bad like that.

It also doesn't even sound right at all.



Edit: @ that video of updated Elwynn Forest. Sounds like regular music of the zone.