Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

[Theodarzna]

You do you, Theo. You totally dunked on all of us. We've been dunked on.

But seriously, I don't think you'll find many defenders here. Though I'm sure if you stick around for a while you might find one.

Already found one, it was even the person I expected.

[beanman12345]

Proud to be right wing to dunk on the dem's every chance they get, but too poor that they're ashamed of being right wing and not pulling themselves up by the bootstraps crying they won't be getting govt handouts. Delicious.

[Theodarzna]

Proud to be right wing to dunk on the dem's every chance they get, but too poor that they're ashamed of being right wing and not pulling themselves up by the bootstraps asking for govt handouts.

Every Democrat is a Reaganite deep down, just scratch a chip of paint off them and you find means testing and Neo-Liberalism all the way down.

[beanman12345]

Every Democrat is a Reaganite deep down, just scratch a chip of paint off them and you find means testing and Neo-Liberalism all the way down.

Calling people left of you as Reaganites, is not the burn you think it is, just a self own that you lack the self awareness for. delicious.

[Theodarzna]

Calling people left of you as Reaganites, is not the burn you think it is, just a self own that you lack the self awareness for. delicious.

Lol "Left of me" like that means anything, yeah, I am sure the Democratic Party is what Karl Marx had in mind.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Is there a reason why you want to co-op what progressive is?

Is there a reason you're so angry all the time?

Here's the thing about spending all day on the internet and among circles of people who don't have their head in reality: You can't live or act within reality. You can't formulate how to move forward in reality. You can only ever bitch about how things aren't going your way. I have pretty progressive values, but as someone who is very active in the political sphere... like, you know, ACTUAL POLITICS, not just posturing on internet gaming forums and circle jerking others on the farther left end of the spectrum, I realize what can and cannot be accomplished within the current structure.

You can either shoot for the stars and hit nothing, or you can shoot for what's in front of you and actually accomplish things. Despite me repeatedly sharing my own views of ideals, I was constantly ostracized by other progressives for simply believing that many of those things were not within the realm of reality in the current day. It's why I make utter fun of all these dumb progressive purity tests, because that's exactly what they are. Dumb. There's really no other word needed for them. It's the same shit as when the Tea Party started calling other moderate Republicans RINOs for not adhering to far right principles. It's mostly just deranged lunacy of people who only ever exist inside of echo chambers. Not people who are out there with boots on the ground, trying to make things move forward.

Remember folks, Very Online People disease is dangerous for your sanity. Get out and expose yourself to politics in action, local town halls, legislature meetings, or hell, just get the fuck out of your house. I realize there's a pandemic and all but the stir crazy is starting to show.

[Machismo]

Every Democrat is a Reaganite deep down, just scratch a chip of paint off them and you find means testing and Neo-Liberalism all the way down.

You keep spreading that lie, no matter how many times you've been objectively proven wrong.

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Lol "Left of me" like that means anything, yeah, I am sure the Democratic Party is what Karl Marx had in mind.

So, what exactly would you call someone who plagiarizes for fascists, lies for white supremacists, supports ethnic cleansing, and thought apartheid was the right way to go?

[Orange Joe]

I had always assumed it was going to be $1400. They were just adding on to the $600 because it wasn’t enough.

Theo is just being Theo. You notice she never once complained about not getting enough when Trump was in office. In fact she never complained about anything she is now when trump was in office.


In other words @Theodarzna is synonymous with hypocrite.

[Levelfive]

Though I don't think many people defending Biden on this if he does budge further.

Here's the entire text of what she linked:

"NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden said on Monday that he is open to negotiating the eligibility requirements of his proposed $1,4000 COVID stimulus check, a nod to lawmakers who have said they should be more targeted to lower-incomes.

The previous round of stimulus checks, including the $600-per-person check approved in December, was generally limited to individuals earning less than $75,000 a year and married couples earning less than $150,000."

I think means testing is a really dumb idea right now, but--as should surprise no one--it's a straight up lie to suggest the negotiation target is the amount, which, frankly, many of us understood to be 600 + 1400.

[CostinR]

I know how this will end, but I'll try regardless. Do you have any cites or facts to back up your statement (bolded above)?

Sure, specifically:

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna30588583

Baucus and many others, including President Barack Obama, say single-payer is not practical or politically feasible.

"Everything is on the table with the single exception of single-payer," Baucus said recently. "This country is not going to adopt single-payer, at least not at this time."

[beanman12345]

Lol "Left of me" like that means anything, yeah, I am sure the Democratic Party is what Karl Marx had in mind.

Good ol' predictable Theo proving my point. It's so easy with you, but you'll never understand, because words have no meaning with you. But still, even though it's easy, it's no less delicious.

[Belize]

This seems like a "HAHAHAAHA LOOKS LIKE YOU MADE A INCONSEQUENTIAL MISTAKE, NICE TRY!" but alright, go off King!

Try not being wrong next time

Someday you'll manage to do it. Well, maybe, you've never been right about anything, but ganbatte ne.

[Felya]

This seems like a "HAHAHAAHA LOOKS LIKE YOU MADE A INCONSEQUENTIAL MISTAKE, NICE TRY!" but alright, go off King!

Interesting reply to being caught spreading fake tweets. If you do an image search, not only was year wrong, but also the image was uploaded on the 20th, while the comment was dated 21st.

It’s not a mistake... it’s disinformation...

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Lol "Left of me" like that means anything, yeah, I am sure the Democratic Party is what Karl Marx had in mind.

Dude... after 4 years of excusing Trump, less then a week in, you are already at over 120 posts on Biden... something you need to lie to achieve.

How in the hell do you consider your position, a valid one, when it’s predicated on lies? Don’t you think if your position had merit, you wouldn’t need to lie?

[Breccia]

Welp, there goes that promise

*LOUD ANNOYING BUZZER*

Trump supporters don't get to complain about broken promises. They lost that moral authority four years ago.

[Felya]

Good ol' predictable Theo proving my point. It's so easy with you, but you'll never understand, because words have no meaning with you. But still, even though it's easy, it's no less delicious.

The stranger thing about all this... We had four years of Trump, when making shit up about Trump, would be pointless... since it would get lost in a sea of actual shit that he was doing. With Covid, Trump was taking credit for vaccine distribution, for it to turn out that he had no plan.

This desire to find corruption, even if it’s not there... would have been far easier, requiring 0 lying... just past week. I think majority of people are celebrating no longer dealing with daily Trump controversy... because we are fucking exhausted... While Trump Supporters that have been living in candy land of the Trump Universe, are just now hungry to fight corruption... so hungry... they will make it up, if it’s not there...

Edit: I don’t envy them... It’s much harder to attack corruption of Mr Rogers, than a NYC oligarch, with a band of lunatics under his command.

[Milchshake]

Since people cant be bothered to read stuff past one or two twitter accounts.

For people that dont recall the discussion a year ago:
One candidate had a plurality of support, but not a majority.
Dem senate chances were bleak.

"How does Socialisy Jesus get M4A through McConnell's senate?"

• Use his Green Lantern ring and wish it.
• Lead popular protest on McConnell's lawn.
• Use the Budgetary Reconciliation process.

Schumer confirmed this in interviews last night. He says they'll use one reconciliation bill for Biden's COVID-19 relief package and then later put as much as possible of Biden's Build Back Better plan into a second reconciliation bill.

But the emerging strategy calls for House action as early as next week on a "shell" budget resolution for the current fiscal year that would include reconciliation instructions to several House and Senate committees for their pieces of the coronavirus aid package. Reconciliation bills can pass the Senate with a simple majority vote, rather than the typical 60-vote threshold.

The timetable could slip by a week or two, according to sources privy to the plans, but the current thinking is House Budget Chairman John Yarmuth, D-Ky., would start the process with a panel markup of the budget resolution. Once adopted by the House, the blueprint would bypass the Senate Budget Committee — which might be evenly split due to the chamber's 50-50 makeup — and go straight to the floor of that chamber.

[Breccia]

they'll use one reconciliation bill for Biden's COVID-19 relief package

It's embarrassing to the country that we have to use the nuclear option to get COVID relief to struggling families.

[Theodarzna]

I had always assumed it was going to be $1400. They were just adding on to the $600 because it wasn’t enough.

Yeah, that isn't what was told to voters, but hey, don't worry about the math problem; it won't be 1400 anyway. Ignore the fact that many never even got a 600 dollar check, 1400 won't happen either.

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*LOUD ANNOYING BUZZER*

Trump supporters don't get to complain about broken promises. They lost that moral authority four years ago.

Dang, good thing none of them are posting about it here. :3

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But seriously, I don't think you'll find many defenders here. Though I'm sure if you stick around for a while you might find one.

Plus as you can see, you got plenty of back up here to run defense on the caving on checks.

[Theodarzna]

Try not being wrong next time

Someday you'll manage to do it. Well, maybe, you've never been right about anything, but ganbatte ne.

Lol, the equivalent of "You forgot to put a comma there, checkmate!"

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Who knew government had nuance and wasn't just straightforward.

This thread is going to be so fucking tedious for the next few years, huh?

You'll get your free money eventually, Theo, don't worry.

Ah, the Reaganite Democrats are in to run defense, "Free Money" is how these people I'm told are "Left" talk about that issue. Amazing.

Biden isn't sending anyone anything. And you'll be there to tell me its a good thing.

[Theodarzna]

On the bold....

Wrong and wrong.

You're just incredibly tedious and I know you're only interested in that money right now. You don't really care about anything else, as much as I'm sure you'll try say otherwise.

I care about M4A but that is another thing Democrats revile, since it does not involve giving "Free Money" to Health Insurance Companies. But yeah, scratch any uber-Democrat and you easily find Reaganites underneath.