Capitol Insurrection / rebellion thread

[Edge-]

https://www.insider.com/anti-vax-doc...ol-riot-2022-3

Anti-vax doctor pleads guilty to being a part of the insurrectionist riot. Just a misdemeanor "entering and remaining on restricted grounds" with other charges dropped.

While Gold told The Washington Post in a January 2021 interview that she didn't think it was illegal to enter the building, her plea agreement stipulates that she admits knowing what she was doing that day was not legal.

Man, it's almost like a lot of these folks are lying sacks of shit and knew they were breaking the law.

Tired of them all getting off with slaps on the fuckin wrist though. We need to get rid of most garbage plea deals like this, take this shit to court and issue some real consequences.

[Endus]

https://www.insider.com/anti-vax-doc...ol-riot-2022-3

Anti-vax doctor pleads guilty to being a part of the insurrectionist riot. Just a misdemeanor "entering and remaining on restricted grounds" with other charges dropped.

Man, it's almost like a lot of these folks are lying sacks of shit and knew they were breaking the law.

Tired of them all getting off with slaps on the fuckin wrist though. We need to get rid of most garbage plea deals like this, take this shit to court and issue some real consequences.

Waiting to see what happens with the FluTruxKlan idiots up here; charges largely haven't started going out for those who weren't arrested on-site, but might. Treason's at least on the table as the leadership issued demands that included the undemocratic overthrow of the government to be replaced by representatives of the protest's choosing, and that definitely fits within the Canadian legal definition for treason (sedition isn't separated out, up here).

Maybe if our insurrectionist terrorist fuckbags get serious charges, it'll start to shame the Americans a bit.

[cubby]

https://www.insider.com/anti-vax-doc...ol-riot-2022-3

Anti-vax doctor pleads guilty to being a part of the insurrectionist riot. Just a misdemeanor "entering and remaining on restricted grounds" with other charges dropped.

While Gold told The Washington Post in a January 2021 interview that she didn't think it was illegal to enter the building, her plea agreement stipulates that she admits knowing what she was doing that day was not legal.

Man, it's almost like a lot of these folks are lying sacks of shit and knew they were breaking the law.

Tired of them all getting off with slaps on the fuckin wrist though. We need to get rid of most garbage plea deals like this, take this shit to court and issue some real consequences.

I don't mind these wrist slaps for the lesser idiots, but I wish there were still of the felony level, rather than misdemeanors. Felonies become giant red flags on your record forever.

[Edge-]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/08/polit...ict/index.html

A jury in Washington, DC, on Tuesday found January 6 rioter Guy Reffitt guilty of all five charges he faced related to the US Capitol attack, in the pivotal outcome of the first federal trial related to the riot.

Reffitt was charged with five counts -- wanting to obstruct the congressional certification of the 2020 presidential election, transporting guns into DC, carrying a Smith & Wesson handgun onto the restricted grounds of the Capitol, interfering with Capitol Police protecting the Upper West Terrace and obstructing justice by threatening his son and daughter when he returned to Texas.

The jury of six men and six women in DC's federal court deliberated for just under 4 hours Tuesday.

In which the government needs to take more of these fucks to trial and stop letting them off with slaps on the wrist.

[Shadowferal]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/08/polit...ict/index.html In which the government needs to take more of these fucks to trial and stop letting them off with slaps on the wrist.

Jury didn't need to deliberate much. If he gets less than 10yrs I'll be damn disappointed.

[Edge-]

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/s...80172150079489

And we've got video of the glowing Mr. Tarrio getting arrested in his underwear, haha.

[solinari6]

And we've got video of the glowing Mr. Tarrio getting arrested in his underwear, haha.

I just found my new kink lol

[cubby]

Jury didn't need to deliberate much. If he gets less than 10yrs I'll be damn disappointed.

I think the sentencing hearing will be as interesting as the first jury trial. We'll get a non-significant data point on how judges feel re the sentencing guidelines for these asshats.

[postman1782]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/08/polit...ict/index.html



In which the government needs to take more of these fucks to trial and stop letting them off with slaps on the wrist.

In which his wife is still saying to not take any deals for January 6th. Even after her traitor husband was just convicted, facing over 20 years in prison, losing rights to own guns and probably vote ever again if he gets out.

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I think the sentencing hearing will be as interesting as the first jury trial. We'll get a non-significant data point on how judges feel re the sentencing guidelines for these asshats.

Isn't he facing a possibility of over 20 years in prison? Granted, he is white, and will probably get less than half if convicted murderers like Kim Potter can get only 2 years for killing someone.

[Poopymonster]

In which his wife is still saying to not take any deals for January 6th. Even after her traitor husband was just convicted, facing over 20 years in prison, losing rights to own guns and probably vote ever again if he gets out.

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Isn't he facing a possibility of over 20 years in prison? Granted, he is white, and will probably get less than half if convicted murderers like Kim Potter can get only 2 years for killing someone.

Don't worry, a few years afterwards he'll get nabbed on weapons charges. Mostly "You fucked up. You don't get your pew pews. You have pew pews. Let's go. Fucking idiot."

[cubby]

Isn't he facing a possibility of over 20 years in prison? Granted, he is white, and will probably get less than half if convicted murderers like Kim Potter can get only 2 years for killing someone.

For everyone that may not know, when you plea down a charge, and admit guilt and arrange a sentence with prosecutors, avoiding a jury trial, you typically get a lesser sentence - sometimes even lesser charges (we've seen that consistently with the Jan 6 Insurrection participants, felonies plead down to misdemeanors).

However, if you go to trial, the prosecution throws the whole "kitchen sink" at you, all the charges, and the maximum versions they think they can get a conviction on. So this sentencing of Guy Reffitt guilty of all five charges he faced related to the US Capitol attack will be interesting, because the prosecutors can (and most likely will) recommend the highest sentences, running consecutively (one at a time; so first charge sentence is 4 years, then second is 3, third is 5, etc, making it a total of 12 years) rather than concurrently (where all the sentences run at the same time; so in the example above the total jail time would be 5 years).

Law is all about the details and the minutiae; it's usually boring and rarely exciting - because for the most part we don't want daily laws to be "exciting" on an ongoing basis (this is also why laws being passed take time as well, but that's another conversation). But this little tidbit of the legal machinations should be fairly interesting.

If the Federal Prosecutors can show they can easily get both convictions and high jail time with jury trials, the remaining 700+ Capital Insurrection Conspirators will think twice about a jury trial.

[TexasRules]

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/06/u...an-6-lies.html

This is an interesting read especially with the new Matthew Rosenberg video.

[Shadowferal]

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/06/u...an-6-lies.html This is an interesting read especially with the new Matthew Rosenberg video.

Considering your habit of not reading your own links it should be interesting indeed.

[Edge-]

This is an interesting read especially with the new Matthew Rosenberg video.

Oh, the Project Veritas video that apparently exists? Weird you vaguebook about it rather than linking to the video or naming it explicitly.

Does anyone actually take Project Veritas seriously outside of conservative circles?

[Noxx79]

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/06/u...an-6-lies.html

This is an interesting read especially with the new Matthew Rosenberg video.

Are trump supporters brainless sheep? Or are they responsible for their actions? Not going to read a paywalled article, and a vague reference to something does nothing. What’s your point? We have trump supporters proudly proclaiming their guilt. This was not a setup.

[Edge-]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/homelan...igence-report/

The Department of Homeland Security's Office of Intelligence and Analysis failed to widely share specific, open-sourced threats observed ahead of the January 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, a new watchdog report released Tuesday found.

Trump administration analysts failed to "produce any actionable information" or issue intelligence bulletins to their network of law enforcement partners until two days after the Capitol insurrection, though they had observed online comments from individuals threatening to hang politicians, vowing to storm Congress and in one case, "shoot and kill protesters at the upcoming rallies related to the presidential election."

The 54-page report by DHS' Office of the Inspector General found the department "was unable to provide its many state, local and federal partners with timely, actionable and predictive intelligence," even though it was the only member of the federal intelligence community required by law to share such information with state, local and other non-federal officials.

The inspector general found that DHS fell short due to "inadequate training related to open-source collection" resulting in "inexperienced collectors" who didn't follow department guidelines for reporting threat information and were "hesitant" to share information. Instead, DHS officials emailed threat information to local Washington D.C. partners before the attack, opting not to issue widespread intelligence alerts.

Messages exchanged between collectors on January 2 and January 3 reveal that DHS employees observed an array of open-source threats on social media and message boards, but ultimately decided they did not meet the reporting threshold.

"People are actually going to try and hurt politicians," one collector wrote to his colleague on January 2, after finding a map that was circulated online of all the exits and entrances to the Capitol building. "January 6 is gonna be crazy."

In a different message exchange the following day, DHS analysts called threats unlikely, though one suggested he had some doubts. "I mean people are talking about storming Congress, bringing guns, willing to die for the cause, hanging politicians with ropes," the collector wrote in a message to a colleague.

Bolded was pretty precient, and the bolded red text was literally what ended up happening. All of it.

Stormed Congress: Check
Bring guns: Check, and explosives!
Willing to "die for the cause": Check, there were multiple deaths amongst the protesters.
Hanging politicians with ropes: Very check, we saw them chanting this, we saw the gallows they set up, we saw the guy with zip ties.

[cubby]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/homelan...igence-report/

The Department of Homeland Security's Office of Intelligence and Analysis failed to widely share specific, open-sourced threats observed ahead of the January 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, a new watchdog report released Tuesday found.

Trump administration analysts failed to "produce any actionable information" or issue intelligence bulletins to their network of law enforcement partners until two days after the Capitol insurrection, though they had observed online comments from individuals threatening to hang politicians, vowing to storm Congress and in one case, "shoot and kill protesters at the upcoming rallies related to the presidential election."

The 54-page report by DHS' Office of the Inspector General found the department "was unable to provide its many state, local and federal partners with timely, actionable and predictive intelligence," even though it was the only member of the federal intelligence community required by law to share such information with state, local and other non-federal officials.

The inspector general found that DHS fell short due to "inadequate training related to open-source collection" resulting in "inexperienced collectors" who didn't follow department guidelines for reporting threat information and were "hesitant" to share information. Instead, DHS officials emailed threat information to local Washington D.C. partners before the attack, opting not to issue widespread intelligence alerts.

Messages exchanged between collectors on January 2 and January 3 reveal that DHS employees observed an array of open-source threats on social media and message boards, but ultimately decided they did not meet the reporting threshold.

"People are actually going to try and hurt politicians," one collector wrote to his colleague on January 2, after finding a map that was circulated online of all the exits and entrances to the Capitol building. "January 6 is gonna be crazy."

In a different message exchange the following day, DHS analysts called threats unlikely, though one suggested he had some doubts. "I mean people are talking about storming Congress, bringing guns, willing to die for the cause, hanging politicians with ropes," the collector wrote in a message to a colleague.

Bolded was pretty prescient, and the bolded red text was literally what ended up happening. All of it.

Stormed Congress: Check
Bring guns: Check, and explosives!
Willing to "die for the cause": Check, there were multiple deaths amongst the protesters.
Hanging politicians with ropes: Very check, we saw them chanting this, we saw the gallows they set up, we saw the guy with zip ties.

These early "test" cases on conspiracy charges are now made more interesting by the above. Since Federal Prosecutors more than likely have this information, we can assume more conspiracy charges are forthcoming. Trump is still a possibility in the prosecutorial crosshairs.

[Edge-]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ex-...se-2022-03-15/

And Tarrio is gonna wait in jail until his trial.

Also, here's a picture of him leaving the detention facility where he'd been held previously -



The jokes make themselves, but homeboy should really make sure his fly is zipped up.

[some guy]

I don't think his shirt is doing him any favors.

[Edge-]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/15/polit...boy/index.html

Prosecutors have discovered a written plan to "infiltrate" and "occupy" six congressional office buildings and the Supreme Court on January 6, 2021, as part of the federal investigation into Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio, according to his indictment and a source familiar with the case.

The nine-page planning document, titled "1776 Returns," is mentioned briefly in the federal indictment filed last week against Tarrio, who is accused of orchestrating key participants in the US Capitol attack that day. A source revealed more details than were previously known about the plan.
In court, prosecutors described an unnamed person sending Tarrio the document in late December 2020.
"The revolution is important," the person told him. According to prosecutors, Tarrio replied: "That's what every waking moment consists of ... I'm not playing games."
The written plan doesn't mention violence and contains two prongs -- one called "Storm the Winter Palace" in which organizers would "fill the buildings with patriots" and another called the "Patriot Plan." That one-page list of demands would be distributed in the streets, declaring "we the people" request a new election on January 20, 2021, and falsely claiming "the evidence of election fraud is overwhelming."
Though the document doesn't call for seizing the US Capitol, its timing and themes track closely to the 1 p.m. ET assembly of the rioting crowd on Capitol Hill that ultimately overtook the Capitol building.
The planning document is included in Tarrio's indictment as part of the alleged actions that support a conspiracy charge against him and others. While the document is notable enough to be included in the charging documents, it is unclear who authored it or how widely it was distributed, or whether Tarrio distributed it to other Proud Boys.
His five conspiracy co-defendants have pleaded not guilty, and Tarrio is appearing in federal court on Tuesday in Florida for a detention hearing. The Justice Department wants him to remain in jail as he awaits trial.
CNN has reached out to Tarrio's defense attorney.
The New York Times was first to report more detail on the document.
Tarrio is accused of planning and encouraging others in the Proud Boys to overtake Congress during their certification of the electoral college vote for president, even though he was not in Washington, DC, that day.
On January 6 during the attack, Tarrio was posting on social media about "#WeThePeople" doing "what must be done," and sent two messages, saying "Make no mistake" and "We did this," prosecutors said in his indictment. He also noted on social media on January 6 the year "1776" and that "revolutionaries" were in one of the office buildings referenced in the planning document, according to the indictment.
In the document's "Storm the Winter Palace" pages -- apparently named after a pivotal moment in the Russian Revolution in 1920 -- planners were to identify two leaders, a recruiter and a "hypeman," who would lead the crowd in chanting at each building, according to the source. A "covert sleeper" would set up a fake appointment and be expected to spend the day as an insider who would let people inside the building.
A media organization is also named among the "targeted buildings" with a note to "at least egg doorway."
The crews would aim to get inside secure areas, then open doors for at least 50 people to enter for a "sit in." Some of their proposed chants included "Liberty or Death" and "No Trump, No America." Under the "sit in" step described in the document, there's an open-ended question about how it would end and whether people would just leave at a certain point.
They document also instructs would-be participants to use Covid-19 masking policies to their advantage to shield their identities, and to have supporters pull fire alarms at high-traffic buildings around Washington, DC, to distract police. The plan also mentioned using truckers or bikers for then-President Donald Trump to create traffic congestion that could hamper law enforcement response times.

And today in, "This was all spur of the moment! There were no plans to overthrow the government! It was just a bunch of tourists!" we have...a plan for revolution.