Capitol Insurrection / rebellion thread

[gondrin]

So I went to sleep and...

It seems that the MAGArection is turning on their own? Q Shaman is now antifa?
Some Republican Reps. decided to embrace insurrection on the House Floor?
Conservative pundits are desperately trying to find scapegoats and claim this isn't conservatism?
Some are actually reflecting on what happened yesterday and a small minoirty are realizing how deeply fucked up the conservative movement is, now?

Are Trump supporters still locked in their hotels crying about curfew?

This has always been the way with the crazy right(screw calling them the alt-right). They eat their own because they have lost touch with reality. To them, everyone(including people that support them) is a possible enemy. To them, everything is a conspiracy to imprison them. When you are that far gone, anything that gives them any semblance of structure will be seen as possible truth. This is the Frankenstein's Monster that the Fox News/Newsmaxx/InfoWars media made. I hope, just like in the book, it turns on its master.

[Doctor Amadeus]

The reason this got as far as it did and the response is way different than BLM or something like that is because these people have no demands other than they want Trump.

BLM and "leftist" rallies / riots are happening because they want systematic change, which is more threatening to the beltway elite than a bunch of guys in dicks sporting goods who only want their favorite game show host to not have his fee fees hurt. The Republicans don't give a shit because they got what they wanted - tax cuts and a judiciary set in stone for the next 100 years. Trump was useful to them for that, and now he's not and if this is what they have to "put up with" when he's on the way out, it's a small sacrifice they're willing to make.

Meanwhile, the Dems love this because this a perfect opportunity for them to point to the other party and say "This is what you want?" and use that as a cudgel over our heads to prioritize symbolism and the "fierce urgency of now" to never actually pass meaningful legislation because at the end of the day, they are right in assessing most people don't want that.

Nah horseshit, this is different because of the racist POS who treat anyone of Color especially black people as less than human period. The Capitol Police and some politicians let this shit yesterday happen on purpose. Seriously fence sitting do nothings are really worse than Trump always quick with some self righteous "Both sides are the same, but our side if responsible" blah blah blah bullshit.

[Edge-]

I mean the only thing that's mildly debatable is the extent to which one thinks that using a funny meme/emoji reflects the user's endorsement of its creator's (or origin) present political views.

Or that he literally encouraged violence on the same day pathetic insurrectionists stormed the US Capitol building.

You know, terrorism and shit.

That too.

But I'm done with this, because this is probably the dumbest and most trivial thing to come out of yesterday. I'm just shocked that anyone even much gives a shit to be upset by it.

[JohnBrown1917]

its kind of cute that you equate Canada to the USA, no no no dear boy Canda in civilised. you are more like the indians 200 years ago with there cast systems very much like your class system and racism to each other.

Somehow missed this, but lol that you somehow missed how racist Canada can be against its own natives.

[Elegiac]

Or that he literally encouraged violence on the same day pathetic insurrectionists stormed the US Capitol building.

You know, terrorism and shit.

That too.

But I'm done with this, because this is probably the dumbest and most trivial thing to come out of yesterday. I'm just shocked that anyone even much gives a shit to be upset by it.

Gamers gonna gamer.

Speaking of which, fun mental exercise to do at home: analyse the sequence of events between Gamergate and what happened yesterday. Kinda chilling to see the direct line tbh.

[Doctor Amadeus]

So I went to sleep and...

It seems that the MAGArection is turning on their own? Q Shaman is now antifa?
Some Republican Reps. decided to embrace insurrection on the House Floor?
Conservative pundits are desperately trying to find scapegoats and claim this isn't conservatism?
Some are actually reflecting on what happened yesterday and a small minoirty are realizing how deeply fucked up the conservative movement is, now?

Are Trump supporters still locked in their hotels crying about curfew?

They are correct in the sense that these same types of people were being called BLM and ANTIFA in the first fucking place. These Alt Right racist white supremacist Proud Boy types are saying this shit because they know full the fuck well it's been them this entire time.

The same nut job conspiracy theorist QAnon nutjobs.

[Grimbold21]

Or that he literally encouraged violence on the same day pathetic insurrectionists stormed the US Capitol building.

You know, terrorism and shit.

That too.

But I'm done with this, because this is probably the dumbest and most trivial thing to come out of yesterday. I'm just shocked that anyone even much gives a shit to be upset by it.

Oh, I wasn't counter arguing that point.

Just think that's another mere marketing precaution by Twitch.

[Magical Mudcrab]

Somehow missed this, but lol that you somehow missed how racist Canada can be against its own natives.

Like how in Saskatchewan, police drove drunk Indigenous men into the tundra, took their clothes, and then left them there to freeze to death.
Or when it was discovered that forced sterilization of Indigenous women was still occurring in Saskatchewan hospitals.

It's a digression, but thinking that Canada doesn't have it's own racial issues is silly.

[Edge-]

Speaking of which, fun mental exercise to do at home: analyse the sequence of events between Gamergate and what happened yesterday. Kinda chilling to see the direct line tbh.

Naw, not at all. Like, never. Like, what the fuck no. Like, are you serious? Like, not if you had my testicles in a vice. Like, not if you had an angry donky ready to kick me in the face.

No. Stop it. End it. It's not goobergumer, which used known tactics to boost itself and has long, long, long since died out after being a temporary rallying cry for alt-right gamers and grifters before they found better grifts elsewhere in the alt-right.

Let. That. Shit. Die. I'm tired of seeing "think pieces" 5 years later that still grossly miss the point of everything, massively overstate the power and influence and threat from goobergummers, and are generally just pointless wankfests in public.

[Forogil]

Boy, there sure were a bunch of former (and current) state representatives who joined in on storming the capitol. Too bad they didn't wear masks to hide their identities.

If you have image- or video-evidence and want to take names and kick ass you can go to:

https://tips.fbi.gov/digitalmedia/aad18481a3e8f02

[Easo]

Starting to notice that.

One observation I have is that main faces on this forum are more or less calling close to half of America Nazis (or implying/blaming), read, Trump voters. This obviously translates into what you noticed. Disagree on something, get called right winger, Nazi, racist, you name it.
Not sure how with that approach nation can heal, but oh well.
P.S.
Incoming funny comments.

Somehow missed this, but lol that you somehow missed how racist Canada can be against its own natives.

Funny, one time I can agree with you. I remember someone in the general police shootings thread pointed out to Endus the statistics of Canada regardings cops and natives. Said statistics were not nice at all.

Armenia. The democracy Eastern Europe can legitimately look down on.

Ummm, what exactly are you trying to say? o.O

[downnola]

So a former PA Republican House rep and a current PA state senator attended the "Stop the Steal" demonstration that lead to the ransacking of the capital building yesterday. They claim they don't condone any violence "unlike those on the left" but have no problem spouting and spreading the rhetoric and conspiracy theories that led to violence.

When conservatives start to use populist demagoguery you can always count on it being for personal gain via Patreon or political clout. This time these shitbags have egg on their face and can't stop backpedaling.

"I see some people are twisting the peaceful protest into something else," Saccone posted on Facebook on Wednesday evening around 6:30 p.m. "Everyone from our group was involved in peaceful, first amendment assembly. It was part of the metaphor to storm the castle so to speak."

Saccone posted that he doesn't condone any violence, "unlike those on the left," and that he didn't personally witness any violence.

In contrast to Saccone, and also at the occupation, was state Sen. Mastriano (R-Adams), who is largely rumored to have ambitions for higher office in Pennsylvania. Mastriano is one of the state Senate's most conservative legislators, and often traffics in right-wing conspiracy theories. Even so, he has a large and dedicated following on social media.

According to posts on social media, Mastriano can be seen posing for a photo with Saccone, and Mastriano is wearing one of his campaign hats. Hours after the Capitol grounds had largely been cleared, Mastriano issued a statement on social media saying "the violence on Capitol Hill today is unacceptable, unamerican and should be condemned by every citizen. This is not the American way.

https://www.pghcitypaper.com/pittsbu...t?oid=18690728

[Felya]

Mostly just floating around twitter and reddit.

Few clear headshots here.

https://twitter.com/Gagladla/status/1347127825472647169

https://twitter.com/Gagladla/status/1347165155092799491

Looks like one of them them has already been fired from a law firm...

[Doctor Amadeus]

yes here is our own far right conservative priminsiter that people in the UK always equate to trump, again spreading his anti-green anti-sciance and anti climet change propoganda........



woe is me suffering the 3rd unscientifc and ignorant of the virus dangers lockdown.... them darn unscientific scientists who told bojo to do it! damn them.

if you cant tell thats sarcasm ^^

When it comes to Boris he is a Trump Like idiot, IF Trump had a Brain, I don't mean that to be a compliment but honestly Boris at least seems competent.

America has had racist and white supremacist as presidents and in government a long time that includes sexist and homophobes and the like.



However Trump is truly the first dumbest low I.Q fat body stupidest fuck, to ever dishonor the White House. Left or Right maybe at the very least Brits are content on leaving their reality TV Jokes for TV Entertainment and not actually leaders charged with any responsibility of the country.

Being both U.S and Canadian, I have known the contrast of the two for some years and frankly even the Conservative Party is NOTHING like these Trumplicans.


And I say that is someone fully and totally liberal.


There are for sure areas I can Agree with Conservatives though.


Yes, The Boarders absolutely have to be secured, but not with bullshit symbolic nonsense like a Wall.


Yes, We can NOT spend out way out of trouble, I am for responsible Government.

I am a Capitalist, but that does not mean at the expense of common sense regulations like I dunno putting 9 year old to 40 hour work weeks, Yeah because we used to do shit like that.

People should be free to make choices even if they aren't ones I agree with, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else and that individual is of sound mind to do so, not a child or vulnerable adult.





I don't think Liberals and Conservative have to be enemies, they are distinct differences in methodology Checks and Balances, which is why the distinctions are important, NOT for partisan bullshit, but so that we know what we are doing and when we are doing it.


And if ever ANY 1 man given responsibility NOT just Power fucks up, there is a system to always keep any one leader from going made and fucking up the whole thing.


Working in security I trust that, contrast and layers of accountability. But Corruption hurts everyone because Stupidity knowing better but saying ah fuck it is how shit like Trump happens every time.

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Oh, I wasn't counter arguing that point.

Just think that's another mere marketing precaution by Twitch.

Yeah True it's Typically an Optics thing.

Like Twitter, Facebook, CNN and MSNBC being called out for helping build Trump, I have NO Problem with that. And trying to walk it back now by banning or scapegoating one idiot should NOT fly.

You can't line your fucking pockets with this bullshit and be all like, well no no this is a bridge too far, when the kind of attitudes had been fostered all this time, yeah bullshit!

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Like how in Saskatchewan, police drove drunk Indigenous men into the tundra, took their clothes, and then left them there to freeze to death.
Or when it was discovered that forced sterilization of Indigenous women was still occurring in Saskatchewan hospitals.

It's a digression, but thinking that Canada doesn't have it's own racial issues is silly.

Well said and True, Canada has it's own crosses to bear, Canada when it came to a lot of progressive issues, isn't that far ahead of the U.S I remember the 80's and early 90's in Canada specifically Manitoba.

[Draco-Onis]

Well, the protests of 2020 were across the nation, and went on for weeks.

Yesterday's terrorist riot was so far just 1 day.

While I believe the national guard should have immediately been called in, and those who stormed the capitol should have been surrounded and held captive until they surrender. I think what we saw last night at curfew is a good sign of how they will be dealt with if this continues.

Go back even further the Kavanaugh hearings peaceful protesters were dragged out even when they were in wheelchairs, arrested and beaten back by police now these fuckers who planted explosives get selfies and the red carpet treatment. As long as Trump is president they won't be dealt with heck he may pardon them on his way out the door just for shits and giggles.

[Powerogue]

Remember when the "Trump Shitshow" thread was rebranded because the name was too inciting? Too provocative?

Q: What is the point of this thread?
A: To discuss ways to prevent / avoid insurrection or rebellion in the US.

Now this thread exists.

He needs impeached and imprisoned for life. Every single traitor who signed on with him and his voter fraud conspiracy theories, at the very least, barred from ever holding public office again, once more, for life, no reversing by some future despot.

Every single terrorist that we have film of identified and tried in a court of law.

It'll be a start.

[Doctor Amadeus]

So a former PA Republican House rep and a current PA state senator attended the "Stop the Steal" demonstration that lead to the ransacking of the capital building yesterday. They claim they don't condone any violence "unlike those on the left" but have no problem spouting and spreading the rhetoric and conspiracy theories that led to violence.

When conservatives start to use populist demagoguery you can always count on it being for personal gain via Patreon or political clout. This time these shitbags have egg on their face and can't stop backpedaling.




https://www.pghcitypaper.com/pittsbu...t?oid=18690728

This the Photo of the delegates that helped yesterdays assault on the congress? If So I am hopping like the rest they spend the rest of their lives in prison.

[Kathandira]

Go back even further the Kavanaugh hearings peaceful protesters were dragged out even when they were in wheelchairs, arrested and beaten back by police now these fuckers who planted explosives get selfies and the red carpet treatment. As long as Trump is president they won't be dealt with heck he may pardon them on his way out the door just for shits and giggles.

You are right. The difference in treatment is sick. I'm really hoping to see justice served since it should be easy enough to track down these people. They were bright enough to take selfies holding evidence of federal offenses. Like, open and shut cases. There is absolutely no defense whatsoever for anyone who breached the Capitol doors. Less so for anyone who did so forcefully, and those who trespassed in offices and moresoe those who stole government documents and property.

But if this doesn't continue today, and the coming days, I don't see the treatment to be the same in the streets. What i'm hoping to see, is the same treatment at their homes. Doors being broken down, people being dragged out of their beds and off their couches, and thrown in jail while they await a court hearing.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Go back even further the Kavanaugh hearings peaceful protesters were dragged out even when they were in wheelchairs, arrested and beaten back by police now these fuckers who planted explosives get selfies and the red carpet treatment. As long as Trump is president they won't be dealt with heck he may pardon them on his way out the door just for shits and giggles.

Except the Peaceful Protest never turned into Riots until the very people these Alt-Right are blaming for this Imaginary Antifa that was part of their bullshit showed up dressed in all black claiming to be with BLM did this shit.


These are the same people, because they used the exact same kinds of methods. It has Always Been Alt-Right White Supremacist.


People prostesting BLM might be annoying, may deface property, but they were protesting the MURDER of black people.



These Alt-Right Trump Pieces of shit were attacking the U.S because they are actual fucking terrorist, carrying the flag of their LEADER TRUMP trying to kill people because they can't accept their loss certified by Trumps own fucking people.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Gamers gonna gamer.

Speaking of which, fun mental exercise to do at home: analyse the sequence of events between Gamergate and what happened yesterday. Kinda chilling to see the direct line tbh.

As some one who knows next to nothing about gamergate other then it was man children being man children what possible line is there?