Yep, now is not the time to call for bipartisanship with the Republican Party. Either Democrats actually put up opposition to this fascist insurrection that the Republican Party enabled, or we have to do it ourselves. Now is not the time to shrivel up and tone ourselves down to prevent "fanning the flames", they're only going to get more aggressive regardless of what we do.
And I swear to god if Democrats use their new political capital to try to pass gun control as a means to prevent an armed fascist insurrection I'm gonna lose my god damned mind.
To play devil's advocate, the Capitol Police really don't have the manpower to respond to this. That's why they're putting out calls to external PDs and the National Guard. Trying to respond with escalations of force when you're vastly outnumbered and out-armed is just asking for a lot of people, including most/all of your officers, to get killed. It's reasonable to take a "minimize casualties, allow them access" kind of approach, in that case.
Doesn't justify taking goddamned selfies with the terrorists, though.
And this is all while you wait for backup to show up. Once they do, it's go-time.
As far as I discussed it, I said it was a shame that someone had to get shot?
Isn't it always a tragedy when someone gets injured? Whether or not they did something to deserve it? It's a shame they were misinformed, that they brought the violence to the capitol building, and it's a tragedy that someone was shot. Whether or not it was justified. If they brandished a weapon, made threats, and as more details come out, that may indeed prove to be the case.
My initial standpoint stems from "I wish no one had to get shot. It's a shame it happened."
I didn't think I'd have to defend such a benign position.
I understand that tensions are high, and people are quick to point fingers, be angry, and maybe I'm just not as familiar with the posters who tend to frequent this forum and if there's some kind of history that makes my particular style or word choice turn on alarms in people's heads, but whoosh, it's like some of you are leaping at things to attack.
To clarify, I hope these terrorists get escorted out of the building in handcuffs.
Not on a stretcher.
This is actually untrue, there were around ~1000 people outside the police gates of the Capitol and not a single tear gas or rubber bullet was fired at them at any point. The police even opened up the gates and backed up into the Capitol building afterwards before even trying to fire off tear gas or rubber bullets. Like I said earlier, we literally saw these same police fire mass amounts of tear gas at protesters this summer when they cleared the way for Trump to walk to that church. They had the means to stop this and chose not to use it, even opening the gates to just... let people in.
you don't need to make anyone angry.
A right winger can just claim XXX about you, spread the lies, get it talked about on major outlets like OON and Rush.....bam....you got hundreds of people coming after you
Just this week trump and co tweeted out some guys phone number by accident. you can only guess what happened.....
Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
I wonder how long it will be until we see fundraisers to bail participants out of jail, like the previous riots.
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Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
2021 is off to a great start, at this rate it will outdo 2020 by a fairly large margin.
On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.