Did I say having a serious hobby is doing something wrong with your life? No, that is not what I said. What I said is that, if you are serious about your life, family, friends, kids, work, HEALTH, self-maintenance, etc, then you suddenly end up with far less time than a no-lifer would. And after all that time has been taken by daily/weekly activities, you're left with the choice whether to spend it all grinding gear which you will replace in 6 months... or doing something else that will net a permanent gain. Such as mount/mog farming, gold making, leveling alts, OR even doing things outside of WoW. In order to get CE you need to dedicate yourself to it. Which means you cannot dedicate yourself to other things. And in life you need to dedicate yourself to a lot of things. Sadly.
Jesus, what the actual fuck did you read indeed, now I am curious
50 minutes of foreplay and 10 minutes of sex is such an alien thing here on the gaming forums? Should have figured.........
4-5 nights a week is not 2 hours a week xD You kinda contradict yourself. 4-5 nights a week is a big amount of time you spend only on raiding. And while in Shadowlands you don't need much maintance for your main, in BFA and Legion for example you had to farm Artifact Power for hours. I know people who got benched from a Mythic raid team (rather casual one at that) for having a low ilvl HoA.
Well, if you one shot every fight then sure, you can make it. But how realistic is that? Once again I repeat - I am not saying it's impossible for adult. I am saying is that you are probably not doing other things which you SHOULD be doing too. Working out, 10 km walking/running a day, cooking, working, self-care, family, friends, kids. Does someone cook for you? Do you pay enough attention to your wife? Are you healthy enough? Do you pay enough attention to your kids? Do you have any dreams you're working on? Or do you have the dream job already and are the happiest person in the world?
Look, I am not the best player out there. I am casual. I started raiding in MoP doing Normal SoO with 1 fps (not exaggeration). Got into Heroic via pugs and later leading my own guild in 7.3.5 Antorus when I finally had normal FPS. I lived in Japan so I was waking up at 2 am at night so I can raid with my guildmates at 3 am Japan time. We did 3 raid nights a week for 2-3 hours each. So while I haven't done Mythic raiding, I have doine RAIDING and the time I spent on it is not less than it would be, if I were doing Mythic. I am familiar with the sacrifices one must make in order to dedicate themselves to a raiding schedule. So no, not commenting from the outside :P At the start of 8.3 I joined a Mythic guild. I was doing relatively okay in the Heroic trial raid. And they told me: You're doing nice DPS for your ilvl, but you need to get better gear and HoA by next reset or you're out. I could have. There is nothing hard about farming Island Expeditions. Farming M+15 wasn't that hard if I didn't mind missing timer every now and then due to pugs (as well as my own mistakes). My guildmates were grinding the same dungeons over and over again in hopes of getting that trinket or weapon with the best corruption and sockets. And they were angry when they didn't get them yet another run. Eventually they would get them and then they get to raid. But would I enjoy doing ONLY that in my free time? Nope. So I made a choice. I decided to give up raiding as a whole and so instead of spending 30 hours grinding gear, azerite and raiding, I would spend 15 hours doing content I enjoy more and then another 15 hours working on my dream. AAAAND the post below is a prime example of what I am talking about ->
This is a prime example of a person who is "doing something wrong with their life". Mate, not only am I not being sub-optimal, I am actually a happy and content young adult, who is working on their dreams and making steady progress and who is taking a serious care of their body, health, relationship, family and friends, whilst working 9 hour night shifts and feeding 4 people. What you are is an adult who is SLACKING in life.
Alright, 5 hours a week is actually a lot less than I thought possible. But I would not sacrifice Torghast and Campaign, leveling alts, etc for the sake of raiding. Those are the things I love about WoW. No point in raiding if I cannot do the actual things I need that gear/mounts for (immersion and solo challenge progression).
Do you have sex every day? If not, why? If yes, do you have any foreplay or just satisfy yourself and leave your wife just hanging there? If not, why? If yes, how much foreplay do you give her? Now I know that "quickies" exist, but damn, that should not be the standard.
Also to everyone in this thread who claims to be managing getting CE every patch whilst being a working adult:
How many hours a week do you excercise? How many hours a week do you cook? How many hours a week do you spend reading/researching things (with the idea of bettering your life, learning new things, doing some brain exercise)? How many hours a week do you spend in nature? How many hours a week do you dedicate to family, friends, kids, girlfriend, etc? How many hours per week do you get? Is your current job the job of your dreams? If not, how many hours a week are you dedicating to making your dream a reality? I will repeat YET AGAIN - I do not think it is impossible for an adult to get CE. I know many who do.
What I am saying is: You are compromising your life. If you disagree, feel free to answer the above questions in detail and try to prove me wrong.
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Feel free to elaborate on what in my list sounds so dream-like.