Get Ready for BlizzConline February 19 - 20

[rrayy]

maybe they'll announce WoW 2
would make sense since many types of wow can coexist and wow 1 at this point can no longer hook anymore player especially younger players

There is no WoW 2. They are working on the next expansion. WoW 2 will not happen.

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How can they celebrate 30 years when they are Activision? I don't get it...also, the stream is free? Then why pay?

They aren't Activision. Activision is a seperate company from Blizzard under the same roof. Blizzard is stil Blizzard Entertainment.

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....oh man i cant wait till someone says free Hong Kong there.
Yeah people didnt forget their thing from last one.

IT's going to be hard to do that since...nobody is going to be there live except Blizzard employees.

[Cæli]

There is no WoW 2. They are working on the next expansion. WoW 2 will not happen.

how can you be so sure?
there's employees such as tom chilton working on another project, a wow 2 doesn't have to be done by the current team
and like I said wow 1 can no longer reach its peak in terms of users (more users more potential money), so a wow 2 more geared toward the missing customers would make sense
to me it's no longer an impossibility after seeing the success of classic wow expansions, they want to appeal to everyone and it's not possible with just 1 retail game

[rhorle]

so a wow 2 more geared toward the missing customers would make sense to me it's no longer an impossibility after seeing the success of classic wow expansions, they want to appeal to everyone and it's not possible with just 1 retail game

Because a sequel doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean people will actually play it. There is no reason to create a "wow 2" when the first one is perfectly fine. A player that doesn't play the current wow likely wouldn't play a wow 2 because they would be designed in the same fashion. To think they wouldn't be designed the same way is silly since Blizzard has years of experience and knowledge on what does and doesn't work.

From a story stand point there is no reason to do a WoW 2. Because it would have to be so far in the future to not impact WoW 1 or set in the past and not impact WoW 1. That is the only way it would work since WoW is still seeing active story development with brand new lore added each expansion. No more then ever since Shadowlands is mostly exploring new aspects rather then reusing old lore (Titan's, Burning legion, horde, etc).

The next cataclysm style world revamp would effectively be the same as a "WoW 2".

[Cæli]

Because a sequel doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean people will actually play it. There is no reason to create a "wow 2" when the first one is perfectly fine. A player that doesn't play the current wow likely wouldn't play a wow 2 because they would be designed in the same fashion. To think they wouldn't be designed the same way is silly since Blizzard has years of experience and knowledge on what does and doesn't work.

From a story stand point there is no reason to do a WoW 2. Because it would have to be so far in the future to not impact WoW 1 or set in the past and not impact WoW 1. That is the only way it would work since WoW is still seeing active story development with brand new lore added each expansion. No more then ever since Shadowlands is mostly exploring new aspects rather then reusing old lore (Titan's, Burning legion, horde, etc).

The next cataclysm style world revamp would effectively be the same as a "WoW 2".

a potential new cataclysm would be as wow 2 as cataclysm was, it's still wow, a wow 2 means gameplay v2, it's not only about the looks, which by the way wouldn't have to use the same engine as wow 1, engine which is perfectly fine for what it wants to achieve, the wow 1 engine will always interest the current wow player, but not the potential new wow 2 players

[rhorle]

a potential new cataclysm would be as wow 2 as cataclysm was, it's still wow, a wow 2 means gameplay v2, it's not only about the looks, which by the way wouldn't have to use the same engine as wow 1, engine which is perfectly fine for what it wants to achieve, the wow 1 engine will always interest the current wow player, but not the potential new wow 2 players

But if you are changing every thing about game play you might as well just create a new IP. Or new genre of a game which means it won't be a wow 2. There is no potential wow 2 player because there is no concept of a sequel. Those potentials could literally be anyone or no one. You can also kill off WoW 1 if a lot of the players migrate over since MMO's are not the type of game you usually play two of at the same time for lengthy periods.

[rrayy]

how can you be so sure?
there's employees such as tom chilton working on another project, a wow 2 doesn't have to be done by the current team
and like I said wow 1 can no longer reach its peak in terms of users (more users more potential money), so a wow 2 more geared toward the missing customers would make sense
to me it's no longer an impossibility after seeing the success of classic wow expansions, they want to appeal to everyone and it's not possible with just 1 retail game

THey aren't going make a brand new MMO of WoW when the 1st one is still profitable. A 2nd one would be a disaster as nobody is going to give up their toons to start all over again. It is a waste of resources. That other project is going to be a completely different IP. WoW 2 makes zero sense. So, not going to happen.

[Cæli]

But if you are changing every thing about game play you might as well just create a new IP. Or new genre of a game which means it won't be a wow 2. There is no potential wow 2 player because there is no concept of a sequel. Those potentials could literally be anyone or no one. You can also kill off WoW 1 if a lot of the players migrate over since MMO's are not the type of game you usually play two of at the same time for lengthy periods.

a new ip wouldn't benefit from the massive popularity of the warcraft franchise, it would be less risky, and classic wow proved that "different" wow can coexist, it only adds players, it doesn't remove players, blizzard want more subscribers, if many subscribers migrate to wow 2 it would be even better for them, if players want to play wow 1 and wow 2 but they don't have the time, even if it's a legitimate issue it's not blizzard's problem I'm afraid. the no concept is a non issue, blizzard is a game company capable of making anything from scratch, they made warcraft from scratch, warcraft 3, wow, overwatch, they can create more of that when they want, that's their reason to exist, that's how they make money

[rrayy]

a potential new cataclysm would be as wow 2 as cataclysm was, it's still wow, a wow 2 means gameplay v2, it's not only about the looks, which by the way wouldn't have to use the same engine as wow 1, engine which is perfectly fine for what it wants to achieve, the wow 1 engine will always interest the current wow player, but not the potential new wow 2 players

IF you are cjnging everything, then it isn't WoW 2. New players aren't going to suddnely start playing WoW 2 if they never played WoW 1. There is zero point to a WoW 2 when WoW one is fine.

[Cæli]

THey aren't going make a brand new MMO of WoW when the 1st one is still profitable. A 2nd one would be a disaster as nobody is going to give up their toons to start all over again. It is a waste of resources. That other project is going to be a completely different IP. WoW 2 makes zero sense. So, not going to happen.

maybe wow 2 wouldn't be aimed at wow 1 players. since wow 1 players will keep playing wow 1 like you said. and especially classic expansions

[rrayy]

a new ip wouldn't benefit from the massive popularity of the warcraft franchise, it would be less risky, and classic wow proved that "different" wow can coexist, it only adds players, it doesn't remove players, blizzard want more subscribers, if many subscribers migrate to wow 2 it would be even better for them, if players want to play wow 1 and wow 2 but they don't have the time, even if it's a legitimate issue it's not blizzard's problem I'm afraid. the no concept is a non issue, blizzard is a game company capable of making anything from scratch, they made warcraft from scratch, warcraft 3, wow, overwatch, they can create more of that when they want, that's their reason to exist, that's how they make money

Classic relies on nostalgia from the original version, that is why it works. WoW 2 doesn't have nostalgia. New players aren't going to play WoW2. It would be a complete flop.

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maybe wow 2 wouldn't be aimed at wow 1 players. since wow 1 players will keep playing wow 1 like you said. and especially classic expansions

Agagin new players aren't going to play WoW2 if they never played WoW1. You are trying to go for players that DO NOT EXIST. Sequels are made to feed off of the players of the original.

[rhorle]

a new ip wouldn't benefit from the massive popularity of the warcraft franchise, it would be less risky, and classic wow proved that "different" wow can coexist, it only adds players, it doesn't remove players, blizzard want more subscribers, if many subscribers migrate to wow 2 it would be even better for them, if players want to play wow 1 and wow 2 but they don't have the time, even if it's a legitimate issue it's not blizzard's problem I'm afraid. the no concept is a non issue, blizzard is a game company capable of making anything from scratch, they made warcraft from scratch, warcraft 3, wow, overwatch, they can create more of that when they want, that's their reason to exist, that's how they make money

Classic isn't "different" though. It is the same basic game play just with original tuning and mechanics. You said you would want a WoW 2 to be 100% different game play. There is no indication that a game like that would survive or be wanted be a large amount of people. Anything Blizzard does would be massively popular at the start. It is Blizzard and despite there being a lot of people who hate or dislike them they still carry the appeal based on the name.

It does remove players because people won't actively play both. Subscribers migrating to WoW 2 won't be better for Blizzard because it would take away and hurt WoW 1. They would need to manage the health of both games in order for both to continue to be a success. Of course it is Blizzard's problem if players can only play one version for WoW. Because the health of the game is what keeps Blizzard earning money. And hurting one just to create a 100% new game with the Warcraft name is dumb.

Of course Blizzard can create it. That isn't the issue. It is should they create it. And since you think lowering the subscribers, or active players, from one game is nothing but a good thing it seems like this is just a "lets kill off WoW" wish disguised as a sequel.

[Cæli]

Classic relies on nostalgia from the original version, that is why it works. WoW 2 doesn't have nostalgia. New players aren't going to play WoW2. It would be a complete flop.

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Agagin new players aren't going to play WoW2 if they never played WoW1. You are trying to go for players that DO NOT EXIST. Sequels are made to feed off of the players of the original.

the point was that classic wow didn't really killed wow retail, it was just a net positive for everyone, it widens their audience.
anyway, at one point producing content for retail will no longer be profitable, compared to running classic expansions for almost no development cost, so it would make sense for them to create another big subscription based game, wow 2 or something else, I just believe that a wow 2 would be more profitable for that

[rhorle]

Agagin new players aren't going to play WoW2 if they never played WoW1. You are trying to go for players that DO NOT EXIST. Sequels are made to feed off of the players of the original.

That isn't true. You don't need to play Diablo 3 in order for Diablo 4 to appeal to you or want to start playing the franchise. New players would play a sequel for the same reasons why they would pick up retail currently. Sequels are not made to feed off of players of the original but to draw in fans of the franchise. Which yes will include those of the original but it might not be active players.

[mistmitpandas]

It was supposed to be November 2020.

Now it's February 2021.

February 2021 is later than November 2020.

If you still don't get it then you're just trolling.

No. There just was no Blizzcon 2020. Blizzcon 2021 is in february instead of november, ergo it is way earlier. What you makes is retarded. There is also no Blizzcon 2022 in november 2021. Simple LOGIC.

[rhorle]

No. There just was no Blizzcon 2020. Blizzcon 2021 is in february instead of november, ergo it is way earlier. What you makes is retarded. There is also no Blizzcon 2022 in november 2021. Simple LOGIC.

Blizzard is clearly calling this BlizzConline rather then Blizzcon 2021. In spirit this is is Blizzcon 2020 because of the cancellation and the original announcement in May of last year stating they still wanted to do something but it would take time to get together and be early in 2021. It has yet to be announced if they will have an in-person Blizzcon this year.

[Cyrille104]

No. There just was no Blizzcon 2020. Blizzcon 2021 is in february instead of november, ergo it is way earlier. What you makes is retarded. There is also no Blizzcon 2022 in november 2021. Simple LOGIC.

This is just wrong. Blizzcon Nov 2020 was moved to February 2021. That was made very clear. No one ever said anything about Blizzcon Nov 2021 or 2022. Stop being a complete moron.

[mistmitpandas]

This is just wrong. Blizzcon Nov 2020 was moved to February 2021. That was made very clear. No one ever said anything about Blizzcon Nov 2021 or 2022. Stop being a complete moron.

This is just wrong. Blizzcon 2020 was canceled. Blizzcon 2021 is now. There wont be 2 Blizzcons in 2021. There is always just one Blizzcon in one year.

[lolmmofuture]

This is just wrong. Blizzcon 2020 was canceled. Blizzcon 2021 is now. There wont be 2 Blizzcons in 2021. There is always just one Blizzcon in one year.

actually we dont know that, blizzcon 2020 was cancelled, but this blizzconline 2021, we may have a normal blizzcon 2021 in november, but i doubt it. because at some point they must have 2 blizzcons in the same year if theyre going bk to normal, unless now the date has been permanenetly shifted to febuaray

[TheFirstOnes]

so... snow zone and raid confirmed for one of the patches in shadowlands

Idk about the snow thing. The Snow Bear is probably to fit more with the Lich King factor of the SL stuff. But, if not, then it's probably Ardenweald-like? Could be seeing the Plane of Life raid in the next patch of SL, since we know that's going to be a factor, as this expansion is not just about death, but also about the Life Vs Death Cosmic War.

[420 NoScope]

I can't wait for the hot lady cosplay