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    Any Mag'Har or other alt-timeline characters in the Shadowlands?

    Have we seen any characters in the Shadowlands that are definitively from the alternate Draenor?

    If so, does that mean Velen is already there? And what about the "countless" heroic goodguy Garroshes?

    Is Grom brown or green or both in the Shadowlands?

    If not, then would the player-character. Maw Walker Mag'Har end up going to their own alternate Shadowlands? So like they could be a champion of the Venthyr and then end up in Alt-Revendreth and have to prove themselves all over again?

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    By the explication of Danouser we will not see any alternative timeline guys, because they are just parts/strings of the same rope, and we see the end rope there

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    1 - There are some Mag'har Orc Souls in Bastion that could totally be from the alternate universe, but there's no confirmation. They do dress like the United Clans Mag'har recruited by the Horde.
    2 - We don't know if Velen is there. His soul could've merged with the Dark Star to light it up.
    3 - Depends on the zone. In Bastion, Ardenweald and Revendreth he would be... colorless. In Maldraxxus he would chose whatever form he wants.

    As far as we know there is no alt Shadowlands, for time is not a construct of Death. Simply put it drags all souls in regardless, and mashes different versions of the same entity into one soul or something.


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    Quote Originally Posted by A Chozo View Post

    That is the most ridiculous load of bullshit I ever read lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    That is the most ridiculous load of bullshit I ever read lol.
    Utterly unnecessary, too. The Shadowlands were already stated to be infinite in scope, so they could just have multiple copies of each with no issues. We'd never meet most of them either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    That is the most ridiculous load of bullshit I ever read lol.
    Using Garry as an example - evidently he was mostly only shitty in our timeline. Does that mean all the good Garry's referenced in the Maghar recruitment quest have to go to Revendreth to atone for the singular bad Garry's sins?

    This afterlife does need to get shutdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    That is the most ridiculous load of bullshit I ever read lol.
    indeed. it's even worse than the "there's only one Burning Legion in all timelines" BS. writing like this is why retcons can be a good thing, somebody more competent will hopefully fix it later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Villager720 View Post
    Using Garry as an example - evidently he was mostly only shitty in our timeline. Does that mean all the good Garry's referenced in the Maghar recruitment quest have to go to Revendreth to atone for the singular bad Garry's sins?
    No? Did you not read the post at all? The strands end up together in the Shadowlands because death is eternal so eventually every Garrosh will die and be there. Garrosh could suffer for a century, but it could take 10,000 years for the threads of the other Garrosh versions to join him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Villager720 View Post
    Using Garry as an example - evidently he was mostly only shitty in our timeline. Does that mean all the good Garry's referenced in the Maghar recruitment quest have to go to Revendreth to atone for the singular bad Garry's sins?
    No, death isn't the default junction point of those strands. Maybe that Garrosh has to suffer through Revendreth to finally go to Bastion, where the other strands will automatically merge into him.

    And we gotta remember as far as we are aware ours is the Prime Timeline or some shit. With the Shadowlands being devoid of time, this means that only the Revendreth Garrosh matters. The others die and from the Shadowlands pov they all died at the same time this one Garrosh finally goes to the correct afterlife, regardless of the actual time of their death.

    Unless he goes to the Maw for being too stubborn. Then no idea, I guess they'll remain separated until The Purpose gets rid of the whole system.

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    Oh lord, I just re-read that fucking "rope" analogy and it's even more cringe the second time around.

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    Danuser just made up some bullshit.

    We will always see the version of the characters that we are used to. Our strand of this "rope" is obvious way more important than the others.

    Also this idiot bringing up time in Shadowlands is different needs to stop. They're basically just using it so they dont have to explain how the Shadowlands works, we have seen almost no proof of it. We literally have the Shadowlands breaking and all the evidence and rules of it, revolve around time. If anything, time is working in the shadowlands and is important.

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    Here's a fun one for you: maybe the reason Bastion exists as a Shadowland is specifically to fix this sort of thing.

    Alternate timeline Garrosh dies, but we already have a main timeline Garrosh in Revendreth. How do you fix this problem?

    Send alternate Garrosh to Bastion where he gives up all memories of his past life, so in the unusual and unlikely chance they run into each other it doesn't cause problems! Great writing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeBogina View Post
    Also this idiot bringing up time in Shadowlands is different needs to stop. They're basically just using it so they dont have to explain how the Shadowlands works, we have seen almost no proof of it. We literally have the Shadowlands breaking and all the evidence and rules of it, revolve around time. If anything, time is working in the shadowlands and is important.
    That's rather oversimplifying things. That time in the Shadowlands is perceived by a mortal in the Shadowlands the same time in the mortal world is perceived by a mortal in the mortal world does not mean that it works the same, only that it looks the same. And nobody said time doesn't work in the Shadowlands, it was said that it works differently.

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