Did Gamers forget there is a pandemic going on?

[Jtbrig7390]

Serious question, Did Gamers (not all just the loud minority) forget there is a pandemic going on?

All I have been seeing lately is people mad about the Nintendo Direct, Blizzcon ect.... Did gamers (to be clear not all) realize that the pandemic really fucked things up and delayed a lot of stuff. Yes lots was able to start working at home but that in itself still makes developing content take much longer.

I honestly expected releases to be much lighter than it already is, so I'm impressed we are getting the games we are getting.

Maybe those people should sit back and clear some of their backlog or find something else to play for a bit.

[exsanguinate]

Pandemic? What are you talking? It is 2007 and we got outland to invade. Wake up my friend

[Val the Moofia Boss]

It should have taken a month - no more than two at the most - to adjust to working from home. Working from home has been proven to be more efficient than going in to work, so by the end of the year it should have evened out.

People are right to be mad about Nintendo and Blizzcon. Nintendo has historically neglected the outcries of their fans for decades, and Blizzard has been in shambles for years. Even if covid had never happened people we would still be in this situation and people would still be rightfully upset.

[Jtbrig7390]

It should have taken a month - no more than two at the most - to adjust to working from home.

You do realize many people working at home do not have the same quality Hardware as they do in the office right? Not everyone has 100GB down and up at home. Your ignoring the fact there is company's/teams who are spread world wide and are now working with less hardware.

Then you have to take into account VA and just developing cinematics in general. Yes for a lot of jobs working from home isn't much different then working in a building. Gaming on the other hand is different.

Not all the developers have a 50k PC sitting in their house.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

You do realize many people working at home do not have the same quality Hardware as they do in the office right? Not everyone has 100GB down and up at home. Your ignoring the fact there is company's/teams who are spread world wide and are now working with less hardware.

Not all the developers have a 50k PC sitting in their house.

Big companies like Blizzard and Nintendo can easily afford to allow devs to walk into the office and unplug their work computers and bring them home (as Square Enix and others did). Or can afford to cover the costs to allow devs to buy suitable work quality computers for use at home.

Then you have to take into account VA and just developing cinematics in general. Yes for a lot of jobs working from home isn't much different then working in a building. Gaming on the other hand is different.

Voice acting can be performed from home, and even if it's not ready in time, it can be added later. ArenaNet's game designers and programmers and artists continued to roll out new content for GW2 on time, adding in the voice acting later once all the lines were finished.

[Rageadon]

Yes, all the time, then someone remindes me of the super deadly virus like this thread

[Jtbrig7390]

The company should pay for the equipment, they have the money, and it's been clear for like 8 months now that the pandemic is not going away miraculously in autumn.

Once again there is a lot of things that can't be gotten at home at all. Not everyone can get 100GB Up/Down to send massive files to each other. No matter how much money you throw at it, Its still going to be working slower at home then in a building together.

[Kallisto]

Serious question, Did Gamers (not all just the loud minority) forget there is a pandemic going on?

All I have been seeing lately is people mad about the Nintendo Direct, Blizzcon ect.... Did gamers (to be clear not all) realize that the pandemic really fucked things up and delayed a lot of stuff. Yes lots was able to start working at home but that in itself still makes developing content take much longer.

I honestly expected releases to be much lighter than it already is, so I'm impressed we are getting the games we are getting.

Maybe those people should sit back and clear some of their backlog or find something else to play for a bit.

It's not that they forget. The gaming community is one of if not the most entitled group of people with the highest sense of self work which borderlines egotistical.

This isn't just a bliz/Nintendo thing. Just look at how death threats were being sent to cdpr devs BEFORE the last delay was announced for cyberpunk 2077 a game that needed those delays and more.

They're the type of people that would turn an 8/10 game to a 0/10 because of something something sjw.

They seem to have the inability to take a step back and out their wallets away when something flashy comes about. Showing that even as adults self control is a myth to them.

As for blizzconline I don't know what the community was expecting. This is basically 2020 blizzcon with the social parts reduced or taken out because of the pandemic. Even year blizzcons are always the ones that have fewer things going for it. And yet this did have some good reveals. Including D2 rebirth with the people that did both Crash n sane trilogy and THPS R games all of which were extremely well done and highly rated.

I'm not sure what's going on at Nintendo but it is still how people react to something that in the grand scale of things in life importance is something as meaningless as gaming. Gaming is not imoirtna t when compared to actual important things like health, science, knowledge, peoples rights etc.

[Very Tired]

Once again there is a lot of things that can't be gotten at home at all. Not everyone can get 100GB Up/Down to send massive files to each other. No matter how much money you throw at it, Its still going to be working slower at home then in a building together.

What is this 100GB things you keep referencing?

Individual game files the devs work on are actually pretty small. Art is just some images, coding is just some text files, 3d models are just software files. All of that should easily be doable at home with little to no setup.

[Nutri]

Pandemic or not... gamers are the most whiny ass, always complaining, zero sympathy, always-know-better, demanding, impatient bunch of keyboard warriors out there.
At least the vocal part on the interwebz.

So, nothing is different, regardless of a pandemic.

[Elim Garak]

Once again there is a lot of things that can't be gotten at home at all. Not everyone can get 100GB Up/Down to send massive files to each other. No matter how much money you throw at it, Its still going to be working slower at home then in a building together.

You forgot to account for time saved on the commute and that it's possible to download large files overnight. Considering that large files are rarely sent between workers in IT - that's a non-issue.

Also, the time wasted while socializing at work - is now not wasted.

If anything the efficiency must at least stay the same - but fact is - it's even better.

The devs are just using this lockdemic as an excuse for inevitable delays because they suck at management

[Strawberry]

Pandemic? What are you talking? It is 2007 and we got outland to invade. Wake up my friend

Don't forget to buy Bitcoin in 4 years.

[Nutri]

Also, the time wasted while socializing at work - is now not wasted.

The watercooler / coffeemachine talk is not always wasted time tho. Often at my job you get to spin around some idea's when you bump into someone in the canteen, or hook into a conversation you'd happen to pick up on when walking by. Smalltalk that would not have happened while working at home.

Our entire company works from home (ICT), and if there isn't a direct reason to call somebody then you simply won't. So most these little chats that where normally happening about our products are kept to ourselves.

Smalltalk/socializing contributes in keeping each other up to speed and pitch idea's around.

[Hellobolis]

Once again there is a lot of things that can't be gotten at home at all. Not everyone can get 100GB Up/Down to send massive files to each other. No matter how much money you throw at it, Its still going to be working slower at home then in a building together.

most jobs don't need to send that much data anyways. and the ones that do can just use the mail to send physical harddrives around, that's pretty common practise when sending large amounts of data.

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Also, the time wasted while socializing at work - is now not wasted.

i've been told that hanging around the watercooler is actually quite beneficial in creative jobs, and that a zoom meeting is no substitute.

[lolmmofuture]

Pandemic? What are you talking? It is 2007 and we got outland to invade. Wake up my friend

haha omg i wish

[Whitedragon]

I'm not sure what's going on at Nintendo but it is still how people react to something that in the grand scale of things in life importance is something as meaningless as gaming. Gaming is not imoirtna t when compared to actual important things like health, science, knowledge, peoples rights etc.

People are whining that they had to many eastern style games and they didn't get info on Metroid prime 4 or BotW 2. I mean we got 2 big game drops, and a new smash rep + 50 min of other cool stuff but that aint good enough I guess. I always find it funny that "fans" get so put out when something gets delayed, and we get our hidden "industry experts" coming out of the wood works telling us how its done, and when we get a pile of rushed junk on the other end then my goodness it's all the ineptitude of the developers....

Personally I'm waiting on a game called Hallow Knight Silksong, and the amount of silence surrounding the game can be a little extensive at times, but I'm happy to let them do a grate job with the game because I loved their first project, and want something on that level if possible again. Would I like the game now If I could have it? The little monkey in my brain is screaming "YEEESSSssss!!! need it now!!!", but luckily I have the most basic level of self control and don't go making an A** of my self in the intern, and will let them do their job with just my positive attitude/support on display. I'm not going to say that developers don't make mistakes themselves but seriously what the actual heck is up with the fans right now...

[Elim Garak]

The watercooler / coffeemachine talk is not always wasted time tho.

i've been told that hanging around the watercooler is actually quite beneficial in creative jobs, and that a zoom meeting is no substitute.

Most of the time it's a waste. Every time it's a waste at least for one participant who just wants to go back to work but the company culture is preventing them exactly because of the nonsense about "socializing that helps". Socializing helps only extroverts, the majority of devs are introverts. The majority of managers are extroverts though. Connect the dots.

[Nutri]

Most of the time it's a waste. Every time it's a waste at least for one participant who just wants to go back to work but the company culture is preventing them exactly because of the nonsense about "socializing that helps". Socializing helps only extroverts, the majority of devs are introverts. The majority of managers are extroverts though. Connect the dots.

Your job-culture is then just very different as mine, or your views are very different.
At my job the majority of developers even came out saying they feel the impact of not having smalltalks.

Each to their own I guess!

[Elim Garak]

Your job-culture is then just very different as mine, or your views are very different.
At my job the majority of developers even came out saying they feel the impact of not having smalltalks.

Each to their own I guess!

That's a completely different issue. Lockdown reduced socializing to a zero. And we all need socializing, even introverts. That's why they feel the impact. But I'm not talking about that. When you work at the office - there's TOO much socializing that IS a waste of time.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Serious question, Did Gamers (not all just the loud minority) forget there is a pandemic going on?

All I have been seeing lately is people mad about the Nintendo Direct, Blizzcon ect.... Did gamers (to be clear not all) realize that the pandemic really fucked things up and delayed a lot of stuff. Yes lots was able to start working at home but that in itself still makes developing content take much longer.

I honestly expected releases to be much lighter than it already is, so I'm impressed we are getting the games we are getting.

Maybe those people should sit back and clear some of their backlog or find something else to play for a bit.

Not really sure what the point is here. It has nothing to do with them being gamers. There's a certain percentage of all people that want to pretend that we aren't in a pandemic. Just instead of complaining about video games being delayed...they complain about Concerts being cancelled, or Sport Games that aren't open to the public, or that they can't get a fucking haircut, etc.