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    Three keys remain - Maldraxxus key is Draka?

    So I was playing the campaign again and I was watching the cinematic from Maldraxxus...

    Margrave Krexus reads the letter from Margrave Akarek:

    "I offer the key to saving Maldraxxus, an unyielding warrior with the skills of a master spy, a key to many things"
    I haven't seen anyone pointing that out so.... is Draka they key from Maldraxxus that the Jailer is looking for?

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    Nah blizz probably just forgot they already used the key metaphor once and just used it again.

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    I mean, using the key metaphor for "saving maldraxxus" is one thing. But a key to many things... I wouldn't say it is a mere coincidence. I can't think of a reason why Draka shouldn't have the Maldraxxus key as the Archon had the Bastione one.

    Also when u discover the blade and an image of the primus appears, he says:

    "The realms of Death awash in darkness"
    "Treachery begets chaos. Bonds frayed must be restored"
    "The key shall honor the worthy"

    In this case I assume the word key is refering to the fact that the blade reacts to us and we open the "vault" where the statue of the primus is hidden.

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    The primus message mentions Arbiter being the final key so its not some throwaway line. So add that to the key mention in the afterlife video for Draka, its a bit of a running element in the story.
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    Draka being the key is an interesting idea as these keys seem to be within characters as opposed to a physical key like the Blade of the Primus could be

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    It won't be her because she wasn't around when the maw was created. When the keys were made the maw was part of Oribos, isn't a coincidence that oribos is just a broken off tower it was definitely broken off from what the maw was which was probably all part of oribos before it sunk down, it only makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokal View Post
    I mean, using the key metaphor for "saving maldraxxus" is one thing. But a key to many things... I wouldn't say it is a mere coincidence. I can't think of a reason why Draka shouldn't have the Maldraxxus key as the Archon had the Bastione one.

    Also when u discover the blade and an image of the primus appears, he says:

    "The realms of Death awash in darkness"
    "Treachery begets chaos. Bonds frayed must be restored"
    "The key shall honor the worthy"

    In this case I assume the word key is refering to the fact that the blade reacts to us and we open the "vault" where the statue of the primus is hidden.
    I'm 90% sure that the key from Maldraxxus is actually Primus' sword that you reforge and empower throughout the leveling process. Admittedly, I have not played the max level Maldraxxus campaign yet, I'm just going by what I saw during the leveling campaigns.

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    so lets speculate he already has bastion and Revendreth key (which I doubt) from Sire somehow...

    Ardenweald (heart of the forest?)
    Maldraxxus (Draka)
    Oribos (Arbiter?)

    I honestly think he doesn't have Revendreth key but if three remain and the last key is the Arbiter, that could be an outline for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokal View Post
    so lets speculate he already has bastion and Revendreth key (which I doubt) from Sire somehow...

    Ardenweald (heart of the forest?)
    Maldraxxus (Draka)
    Oribos (Arbiter?)

    I honestly think he doesn't have Revendreth key but if three remain and the last key is the Arbiter, that could be an outline for it
    Denathrius still has his.

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    Keys can be moved right? As the key was taken from the Archon without her dying, if the Primus was so clever as to anticipate the jailer's movements the key could have ended up in Draka's hands.
    However, now that I think about it, she states "He gave me no key" when Margrave Krexus reads the letter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    It won't be her because she wasn't around when the maw was created. When the keys were made the maw was part of Oribos, isn't a coincidence that oribos is just a broken off tower it was definitely broken off from what the maw was which was probably all part of oribos before it sunk down, it only makes sense.
    Oribos doesn't look particularly broken off.

    And there is nothing that suggest that the key can't be moved to something else.
    As i said in another thread, Ardenwealds key is not gonna be the Winter Queen but the Heart of the Forest.

    Denathrius doesn't have the key 'on' him either, else the Jailer wouldn't have just thrown him under the bus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Oribos doesn't look particularly broken off.

    And there is nothing that suggest that the key can't be moved to something else.
    As i said in another thread, Ardenwealds key is not gonna be the Winter Queen but the Heart of the Forest.
    Oh I just mean it's not a coincidence that oribos looks like the the top part of a castle with a broken underneath which could definitely be what Torghast used to be before it fell down and was repurposed. Also look at how the souls go down straight into the maw from oribos it was definitely all connected at one point before it sunk down and I guarantee you that the rune Carver is the one who made the jailers chains and the runes that he's looking for to free himself.
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    Thrall really boutta experience another traumatic experience VIA the Jailer maybe killing Draka, eh?

    Damn Blizzard, y'all just don't like Metzen's legacy, do ya?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokal View Post
    So I was playing the campaign again and I was watching the cinematic from Maldraxxus...

    Margrave Krexus reads the letter from Margrave Akarek:

    "I offer the key to saving Maldraxxus, an unyielding warrior with the skills of a master spy, a key to many things"
    I haven't seen anyone pointing that out so.... is Draka they key from Maldraxxus that the Jailer is looking for?
    Maldraxxus key is the runecarver, he is the primus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    Oribos doesn't look particularly broken off.

    And there is nothing that suggest that the key can't be moved to something else.
    As i said in another thread, Ardenwealds key is not gonna be the Winter Queen but the Heart of the Forest.

    Denathrius doesn't have the key 'on' him either, else the Jailer wouldn't have just thrown him under the bus.
    Maybe it is the Heart of the Forest. Who knows. Tho, imo, I wouldn't be shocked if we lose at the end of the next raid, and we have to go to the Planes of Life VIA the Heart of the Forest. That way, the Heart of the Forest could be confirmed as the "vulnerability" that the POTENTIAL Dreadlords talked about during their whole Enemy Infiltration thing.

    Cause, imo, I think the Winter Queen has the key. Seems the keys are moreso linked with the Pantheon of Death members, unless the Primus threw his key in Maldraxxus somewhere (Tho, that would make no sense, since the Sepulcher of Secrets/Knowledge in Maldraxxus is almost not at all infiltrated by the Jailer-allied Necrolords, but whatever), or in Korthia (That would make more sense tbh).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dess View Post
    Maldraxxus key is the runecarver, he is the primus.
    The Primus likely safeguarded his key somewhere. Either in Korthia (Cause I doubt it's in that Sepulcher at Maldraxxus, unless that Broker we saw enter there was allied with the Jailer, which in this case we're fucking moronic for doing that), or inside a person (Likely Draka, which would actually mind fuck Thrall even more, if she's killed or tortured by Zovaal).

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    The Primus wouldn't be dumb enough to keep the key with him. It's probably why the Jailer still hasn't found it yet, despite going through all of the "runecarvers" memories and secrets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HighlordJohnstone View Post
    Maybe it is the Heart of the Forest. Who knows. Tho, imo, I wouldn't be shocked if we lose at the end of the next raid, and we have to go to the Planes of Life VIA the Heart of the Forest. That way, the Heart of the Forest could be confirmed as the "vulnerability" that the POTENTIAL Dreadlords talked about during their whole Enemy Infiltration thing.

    Cause, imo, I think the Winter Queen has the key. Seems the keys are moreso linked with the Pantheon of Death members, unless the Primus threw his key in Maldraxxus somewhere (Tho, that would make no sense, since the Sepulcher of Secrets/Knowledge in Maldraxxus is almost not at all infiltrated by the Jailer-allied Necrolords, but whatever), or in Korthia (That would make more sense tbh).

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    The Primus likely safeguarded his key somewhere. Either in Korthia (Cause I doubt it's in that Sepulcher at Maldraxxus, unless that Broker we saw enter there was allied with the Jailer, which in this case we're fucking moronic for doing that), or inside a person (Likely Draka, which would actually mind fuck Thrall even more, if she's killed or tortured by Zovaal).

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    The Primus wouldn't be dumb enough to keep the key with him. It's probably why the Jailer still hasn't found it yet, despite going through all of the "runecarvers" memories and secrets.
    I think Korthia is not where any of the keys are, but where whatever he wants to open/unveil can be found

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    Pretty sure the keys are not physical keys that fit in a locker but runes as portrayed in the Anduin cinematic.
    I would be expecting some of the runes in his body to be disappearing after getting the key but they don't.
    I was also under the impression that the floating area was the target as there are 2 chains attached there and 3 runes without attachments at the end of the cinematic, however that appears to be korthia so not sure what to make out of it
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    I think 100% yes Draka is who/where the Primus stashed the key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokal View Post
    I think Korthia is not where any of the keys are, but where whatever he wants to open/unveil can be found
    He's trying to find secrets of the First Ones there, yes. But considering the Jailer's been going through the Runecarver's secrets, and if the Primus is the Runecarver, then it's highly possible Zovaal found no signs of the Key. The Primus throwing his key in Korthia aswell would make about as much sense as it would, since it is the city of Secrets, and it was well hidden within the In Between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    Oh I just mean it's not a coincidence that oribos looks like the the top part of a castle with a broken underneath
    It doesn't. It very much looks like it was designed from the start to just float in mid-"air". It certainly has nothing that looks obviously broken.

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