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    Inscrutable Quantum Device Usage

    I got lucky and just got this out of my vault this week! Im wondering when to use the item with meta. For sims when does it use trinket? Is it before meta? Before eyebeam? After eyebeam? Any advice would be appreciated for single target and aoe pulls.

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    dont wonder. u dont use that shit

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    I play as venthyr havoc, so I use it before applying the covenant dot to increase haste (if I´m lucky).
    So I use it before meta, but after eybeam.
    Casting looks like:
    Device - Meta(applying Sinful Brand) for Big Trash groups in M+
    Eyebeam - Device - Sinful Brand for Bosses, big mobs, etc.
    but I don´t think it makes a big difference, since other abilitys scale dynamic as well, so maybe this should be the case for the device too.

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    you dont use it at all cuz its dogshit
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    You can just look it up in a single iteration from the sim, in simcraft result you can find it under Action Priority List->Sample Sequence Table.

    But as other have said, you only use the trinket to boost your sim dps as it's vastly overrated in sims because it always assumes it procs the secondary stat.
    In real life scenario it's only decent if you have a class that can burst right from the start (like convoke), but for most classes the big chance that the second (and third) use of the trinket might end up in a non-damage proc makes it fairly crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feral Druid ist Op View Post
    you dont use it at all cuz its dogshit
    One trinket that can either:
    Give secondary stats dependent on your highest stat
    Heal you or your group member more than 25k
    Pvp trinket when stunned
    Ranged execute
    Give mana to a healer that is oom

    Also all of those are trackable by a WA.

    So its many things but not dog shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deneios View Post
    So its many things but not dog shit
    It's actually the main reason why it's dogshit....

    While you can track what it will do, you can't influence it. If you want stats in X timeframe and it doesn't give you stat, you're fucked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deneios View Post
    One trinket that can either:
    Give secondary stats dependent on your highest stat
    Heal you or your group member more than 25k
    Pvp trinket when stunned
    Ranged execute
    Give mana to a healer that is oom

    Also all of those are trackable by a WA.

    So its many things but not dog shit
    You are in the havoc sub forum and thats precisely the reason why its dogshit, cause it is dogshit for dh, no other way around it.

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    I highly advise against it For havoc even as venthyr, The overcharged trink is far better if you have it, or can farm it

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    This trinket is awful for DH even while it is amazing for other classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deneios View Post
    One trinket that can either:
    Give secondary stats dependent on your highest stat
    Heal you or your group member more than 25k
    Pvp trinket when stunned
    Ranged execute
    Give mana to a healer that is oom

    Also all of those are trackable by a WA.

    So its many things but not dog shit
    You may consider l2p my friend, source WR 20-30 havoc main here since havoc exists, i thnik i know what is dogshit or not for a spec that i main @ 98% overall pharses
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    Parse slaving means nothing unless your other members also play over 98% parses. When your healer/tank dies you can kiss your parse goodbye. In raw numbers that might be the case but ability to adapt is a huge bonus.

    Also great claims but no back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deneios View Post
    Give secondary stats dependent on your highest stat
    Good, but on a 3 minute CD it's kind of meh

    Quote Originally Posted by Deneios View Post
    Heal you or your group member more than 25k
    Very rarely useful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deneios View Post
    Pvp trinket when stunned
    Very rarely useful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deneios View Post
    Ranged execute
    Does very little damage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deneios View Post
    Give mana to a healer that is oom
    Even high ilvl only gives like ~6% mana to a single healer. Barely noticeable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deneios View Post
    So its many things but not dog shit
    Almost all of the "other" effects are worse than the secondary stat proc. And you cannot control when it will do those other effects, other than just not using it.

    That's what makes it dogshit.

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    Ok, so...

    1: The PvP trinket part is almost never going to proc in PvE. And personally, if you get hit by a long duration CC, I would say that breaking out of said CC would give you more damage then a stat proc - 6+ seconds of downtime kills your DPS.
    2: The healing portion can be played around. Check to make sure nobody is below 30% health - If they are, waiting 1-2 seconds for your healer to top them off isn't going to murder your damage. Otherwise tap that.
    3: Yes, the Execute portion is a major bummer - Though at the same time in non-add fights a target below 20% means the encounter may not even last for the full duration of the stat buff. It could use a decent damage boost - It hits for roughly the same amount of Skulker and that's half the CD. Maybe having it execute for 30k (Nerfed 90% in PvP) would be solid.
    4: Finally, the healer mana. Now, ima ask you guys - What matters more, doing 200 more DPS over the encounter but wiping because your healers went oom, or successfully completing the encounter because you gave your healer a solid mana boost? Keep in mind that it only targets healers that are low on mana - If it's content that's not likely going to wipe because of healing demands, then it's likely also content that your healers won't be oom.

    So, really, outside of the heal effect which requires the actions of other players, every single other part of the Inscrutable Quantum Device will help you to complete said content. Execute is a bit lackluster yes, but overall IQD will go a lot more towards helping a group down their content then most other trinkets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raugnaut View Post
    So, really, outside of the heal effect which requires the actions of other players, every single other part of the Inscrutable Quantum Device will help you to complete said content. Execute is a bit lackluster yes, but overall IQD will go a lot more towards helping a group down their content then most other trinkets.
    It it was good, the top demon hunters would be using it. They're not, so it's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaetha View Post
    It it was good, the top demon hunters would be using it. They're not, so it's not.
    Are the top DHs still progressing content?

    If the group you are in wiped because a healer went oom, and you have IQD but didn't use it? That wipe's on you. Period.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moounter View Post
    I think your problem is a lack of intellect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raugnaut View Post
    Are the top DHs still progressing content?

    If the group you are in wiped because a healer went oom, and you have IQD but didn't use it? That wipe's on you. Period.
    Its Dogshit, garbage, and its not for the fact that u cant control the proc, its for the fact there are better trinkets for a demon hunter to use. you are not a bursting class, so no matter how much u try to explain, you're not right and its dogshit, Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raugnaut View Post
    Are the top DHs still progressing content?

    If the group you are in wiped because a healer went oom, and you have IQD but didn't use it? That wipe's on you. Period.
    lissen up casual buddy you dont use Dogshit ESPECALLY in progress wen youre undergeared and need every single dps you can get
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    This trinket is awful for DH even while it is amazing for other classes.

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